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    The Apostle Paul writes the following passage in Galatians 6:6-10 below:

    6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.

    7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.

    8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

    9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.

    10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.

    Several themes occur in this passage:

    a) Sowing and reaping.

    b) Doing good.

    c) The avoidance of weariness.

    d) The Flesh/Spirit argument.

    e) etc.

    Finally, the passage suggests that "in due time, we shall reap if we do not grow weary."

    I would love the saints to discuss and come up with an answer to the appropriate question of this passage:

    When is due time?


    Thoughts?
    Grace and peace,

    Billy-brown 2


    I Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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    Studying the life of Abraham will give you a good perspective on 'reaping in due time'.
    But, when you plant a garden, you till the soil, fertilize it, and place the seeds in the soil. Then you water it.
    Short of keeping the weeds away, that's about all you can do. But, in due time, those seeds spout, and grow, and become mature plants that bear fruit.
    Some seeds sprout quickly, others take a while to start until conditions are just right. But inevitably, they will grow, and you will reap what you have sown. (Hopefully you have sown good seed, and not that of thorns and thistles).
    The things we plant in this life will eventually grow and mature, and we will reap whatever it is we have sown, whether it be of love and peace, or otherwise.
    When we labor in the kingdom, we till and weed, planting the seeds of the Word in people's hearts. Eventually, that will grow and bear fruit. But we must be patient, for sometimes it takes a good while. Eventually we will see the fruit, and it well bear the seeds of even greater harvests.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by billy-brown 2 View Post
      The Apostle Paul writes the following passage in Galatians 6:6-10 below:

      6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.

      7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.

      8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

      9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.



      10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.

      Several themes occur in this passage:

      a) Sowing and reaping.

      b) Doing good.

      c) The avoidance of weariness.

      d) The Flesh/Spirit argument.

      e) etc.

      Finally, the passage suggests that "in due time, we shall reap if we do not grow weary."

      I would love the saints to discuss and come up with an answer to the appropriate question of this passage:

      When is due time?

      Thoughts?
      The greek word is "idios" meaning 'pertaining to one's self.
      of what is one's own as opposed to belonging to another':

      So it seems 'due' time differs on each person. The point of the passage is regardless of the length of time of doing good, have patience for the promised reward is sure.
      ♪ Each day may Christ become clearer, His Cross dearer, Our Hope nearer. ♫

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      • #4
        Originally posted by billy-brown 2 View Post
        Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.

        10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.

        When is due time?

        Thoughts?
        Reap pertains to harvest and weary is probably better understood as relax. In due season we will reap/harvest if we don't relax. Maybe dealing with seeing fruit produced from our labors.

        Bosco

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        • #5
          These are really good responses . . . congrats to all . . . personally, I was fixed on the phrase in verse 8 of the OP:

          " . . . the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life."

          and I was wondering if it was logical to assume that the "eternal life" in verse 8 was

          a) the life to come, or

          b) what we possess now in the new birth?

          If it is a), that would be long wait . . . for "reaping".

          But, what do you think . . . ?
          Grace and peace,

          Billy-brown 2


          I Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by billy-brown 2 View Post
            These are really good responses . . . congrats to all . . . personally, I was fixed on the phrase in verse 8 of the OP:

            " . . . the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life."

            and I was wondering if it was logical to assume that the "eternal life" in verse 8 was

            a) the life to come, or

            b) what we possess now in the new birth?

            If it is a), that would be long wait . . . for "reaping".

            But, what do you think . . . ?
            We are now members of the Household of God, the process has already begun for those who believe. But ultimately this is likely speaking about the life to come, the time when we are changed, made incorruptible, reigning with Messiah.

            Bosco

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bosco View Post
              We are now members of the Household of God, the process has already begun for those who believe. But ultimately this is likely speaking about the life to come, the time when we are changed, made incorruptible, reigning with Messiah.

              Bosco
              Yep . . . this ^^^ sounds logical to me also.

              Thus, we must "sow to the Spirit" TO THE END of our lives--to reap what you have said above.

              This "reaping," then, does not take place in this life--but only after we have died physically (or when Jesus returns).

              By parallel implication then, if one "sows to the flesh," what will happen?
              Grace and peace,

              Billy-brown 2


              I Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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              • #8
                Due time

                Hi . One friend of mine , translates it this way, But we should not lose courage in doing well , for in one's own time we will reap if we are not being exhausted .

                1) Discouragement afflicts every believer who works for the Lord . Many things contribute to this condition ; sickness , lack of money , not seeing results of your ministry , discord among believers , and the constant pull of the old nature telling you to give up .

                2) I believe that we will reap at the Bema Seat in 1 Cor 3:11-15 .

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dan p View Post
                  Hi . One friend of mine , translates it this way, But we should not lose courage in doing well , for in one's own time we will reap if we are not being exhausted .

                  1) Discouragement afflicts every believer who works for the Lord . Many things contribute to this condition ; sickness , lack of money , not seeing results of your ministry , discord among believers , and the constant pull of the old nature telling you to give up .

                  2) I believe that we will reap at the Bema Seat in 1 Cor 3:11-15 .

                  It is certainly a challenge to "not be weary in well doing"--and to do this UNTO THE END--this is a great task, indeed!

                  But, if we want to reap . . . eternal life . . . we must obey Christ, yes?
                  Grace and peace,

                  Billy-brown 2


                  I Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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                  • #10
                    When is due time

                    Originally posted by billy-brown 2 View Post
                    It is certainly a challenge to "not be weary in well doing"--and to do this UNTO THE END--this is a great task, indeed!

                    But, if we want to reap . . . eternal life . . . we must obey Christ, yes?
                    1 ) We have eternal life the minute that we take Christ as our saviour and then we follow Paul , as Paul follows Christ , Phil 4:9 .

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dan p View Post
                      1 ) We have eternal life the minute that we take Christ as our saviour and then we follow Paul , as Paul follows Christ , Phil 4:9 .
                      Do we really dan? I question that. Say Moe takes Christ as his Savior & then 6 months later forgets about him & never feels him again. His life stays selfish & evil, even gets worse than before. Does that man have eternal life? And if all we have to do is take Christ as our Savior then explain to me the Scripture that says Faith without works is dead. If your faith is dead, do you really have the faith you need to accept Jesus as your Savior?
                      The Bible is also loaded with scripture that says you will produce good fruits & the vine that does not will be cut off & thrown into the fire.
                      Yes, the beginning is by Grace, it is a free gift from Christ that we do not deserve but once we accept it there are strings attached to use it, sacrifice yourself to the Lord, repent, seek forgiveness & forgive, Honor God with all your heart & soul & treat your brothers in the same way, etc, etc, etc.
                      And let us not forget the parable where the seeds fall on hard soil & die, others take root & die shortly after and others grow strong. Those ones who take root & then get chocked out & die are the ones we are talking about, those that begin to accept Christ but then reject him by their continued sinful actions, lack of faith to change oneself & pick up his cross and follow Christ, lack of works & refusing to die completely to his service instead of our selfish ways.
                      Don't get me wrong, none of us will ever be perfect but I believe we better not be sleeping when the Master comes home. We better be diligently cleaning & protecting our house. God knows all who only wanted to get his Son's precious blood for their own selfish reasons of forgiveness. But those who truly receive the gift of grace & mercy will be forever changed & their lives will be lived in accordance with where their treasures truly lie.
                      Last edited by MontanaCowboy; Apr 22nd 2009, 07:00 AM. Reason: Typo king
                      Imagine all the pain & betrayal you have felt from a few but Christ feels from us all. Yet He still loves & forgives us so love those back who hurt you. What we feel is less than an itch in comparison to what he has felt. Follow our Savior, Love, forgive, serve & help.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dan p View Post
                        1 ) We have eternal life the minute that we take Christ as our saviour and then we follow Paul , as Paul follows Christ , Phil 4:9 .
                        Yes, this is true:

                        Originally posted by dan p View Post
                        We have eternal life the minute that we take Christ as our saviour ...

                        and yet we have this:

                        Heb. 9:27-28
                        27 And inasmuch as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this cometh judgment;
                        28 so Christ also, having been once offered to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to them that wait for him, unto salvation.

                        and this:

                        Romans 2:1-11
                        1 Wherefore thou art without excuse, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judges another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest dost practise the same things.
                        2 And we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against them that practise such things.
                        3 And reckonest thou this, O man, who judgest them that practise such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
                        4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
                        5 but after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up for thyself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
                        6 who will render to every man according to his works:
                        7 to them that by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and incorruption, eternal life:
                        8 but unto them that are factious, and obey not the truth, but obey unrighteousness, shall be wrath and indignation,
                        9 tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that worketh evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Greek;
                        10 but glory and honor and peace to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek:
                        11 for there is no respect of persons with God.

                        And the book of Hebrews and Romans was written to those who had "eternal life" already.

                        So, is not the passage below in Gal. 6:6-10 written to those who have "eternal life" already as well?

                        6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.
                        7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
                        8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
                        9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.
                        10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.

                        Since we will reap in due time per this passage in Galatians, a question arises indeed:

                        When is due time?

                        Grace and peace,

                        Billy-brown 2


                        I Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crossnote View Post
                          The greek word is "idios" meaning 'pertaining to one's self.
                          of what is one's own as opposed to belonging to another':

                          So it seems 'due' time differs on each person. The point of the passage is regardless of the length of time of doing good, have patience for the promised reward is sure.
                          I agree. due=it's own or proper

                          In verse 2 Paul has said to 'bear one anothes burdens'. But moments later, he notes that each one shall bear his own laod (v5). Both are true. We are called to initiate caregiving in the Church, and not to be needless burdens to others.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by billy-brown 2 View Post

                            And the book of Hebrews and Romans was written to those who had "eternal life" already.

                            So, is not the passage below in Gal. 6:6-10 written to those who have "eternal life" already as well?

                            6 The one who is taught the word is to share all good things with the one who teaches him.
                            7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.
                            8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.
                            9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary.
                            [FONT=Georgia][COLOR=red]10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.
                            Who can tell who has eternal life or not? Verse 6 - The teacher and the taught form a bond, and the sharing here is in material blessings. see Num. 31:47, 35:1-8. 1 Cor. 9:14

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Teke View Post
                              Who can tell who has eternal life or not? Verse 6 - The teacher and the taught form a bond, and the sharing here is in material blessings. see Num. 31:47, 35:1-8. 1 Cor. 9:14
                              Yep . . .

                              So, is there any "reaping" from what is shared between "the teacher" and "the taught" in this passage?
                              Grace and peace,

                              Billy-brown 2


                              I Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

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