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    Hello,

    I'm a fellow Christian who believes wholeheartedly after today that Pat Robertson is a fake Christian.

    He has endorsed Rudy Giuliani for president in '08.

    There can only be one of two things going on here.

    1. Pat has been paid a large sum of money by Rudy, or somebody else that wants Rudy to get the Christian vote.

    2. He's not really a Christian.


    He has endorsed somebody who is pro-choice, anti-gun, racist, and a Catholic.

    Nothing against Catholics at all. I know plenty of God-fearing Catholics who are devoted to Christ. But why wouldn't Pat endorse somebody that's non-denominational or even non-Catholic?

    It's all starting to make sense now. Pat made most of his money from the oil industry. Something that he still endorses big-time! Just look into his latest endorsement of opening a refinery in California.

    He supports murderers, crooks, and corporations. It's all becoming clear.

    He is a false prophet.


    What are some biblical verses that warn about people like this??

    Thanks!

  • #2
    While I'm no huge fan of either Rudy Guiliani, or Pat Robertson, I think you might be speaking rather harshly when you say Robertson either isn't a Christian, is a false prophet, or has been paid off.

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    • #3
      Yeah but it's so obvious why he's endorsing Rudy.

      Pat made most of his riches in the oil industry and that continues to this day.

      He's endorsing a war-monger so that his oil interests will be protected. Why do you think he called for the assassination of Chavez? To protect oil, once again. So in turn he supports some of the dirtiest organizations in the world. Organizations which are willing to kill, extort, and even torture to protect their oil as well.


      What are verses that warn of false prophets, or people that preach The Word but practice otherwise?

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      • #4
        Maybe the board should have "Gossip and Bash" forum.

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        • #5
          It's not bashing or gossip if it's true!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RealPatriot View Post
            He has endorsed Rudy Giuliani for president in '08.

            There can only be one of two things going on here.

            1. Pat has been paid a large sum of money by Rudy, or somebody else that wants Rudy to get the Christian vote.

            2. He's not really a Christian.

            OK.

            Show us some proof, and not merely your own speculations and accusations.

            Until you can, it remains gossip and bashing - not to mention slander, libel and defamation of character.

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            • #7
              What Pat Robertson is, is a Christian who compromises the faith. Does that make someone unsaved? If it did, we all would be unsaved.

              How does a Christian tell if another Christian is not what he claims to be? God's word says: By their fruits ye shall know them. Does Pat's ministry produce fruit of the kingdom? Yes it does. It producing souls for the harvest. Now why does this make a difference?

              mt 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

              mk 3:26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

              lk 11:18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

              So if Pat's ministry is of Satanic nature because he is a fake Christian. Then Satan is working against himself through Pat by allowing souls to be saved.

              So is Pat a fake Christian? Nope. Again, he is a Christian that compromises his faith. And it will be judged as such by the only person that has the actual power to judge rightly. Which makes our judgement here, what? Gossip.

              lk 6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

              lk 6:42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

              Is there anyone at this forum that has never compromised your faith in one way or another? I think not. So what does that make us when we judge another for a sin we have committed ourselves? Hypocrites.
              Note: By request I can only post and see the tech section of this forum. So don't respond to my posts in the other sections because I cannot see them so I cannot respond. You can PM me if you need to.
              My site: http://www.yecheadquarters.org/

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              • #8
                I'm a fellow Christian who believes wholeheartedly after today that Pat Robertson is a fake Christian.

                He has endorsed Rudy Giuliani for president in '08.

                Well there are a lot of False out there, but i am not sure what he preaches.
                Neither do i know what Rudi will do if he wins.

                As a Christian, I would say to Rudi, -If you want me behind your campaign, you will have to give yourself to Christ, and when you do, when you say the lords prayer, you really support, thy Kingdom come , Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Changes have to be made, and i will support nothing that goes against the Spirit of God and what his kingdom stands for.

                Arent we really on Jesus campaign trail, getting people into his Kingdom?
                And those castles made of sand....fall into the sea......eventually

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Duane Morse View Post
                  OK.

                  Show us some proof, and not merely your own speculations and accusations.

                  Until you can, it remains gossip and bashing - not to mention slander, libel and defamation of character.
                  Not to mention detraction. I will not vote for a pro-abortion candidate, even if I have to go third party and even if the man is a Catholics, for he is a very poor Catholic. Yet as far as Pat Robertson's support of him, that scarcely makes him a false prophet of a false Christian. It just makes him wrong. I would also hope that he and his organization no londer is enjoying tax exempt status. If they are, I am sure it will soon be called into question.

                  I have seen public figures lambasted by and demonized on forums a lot. When the criticism is their behavior, I believe it to be fair game. When we start talking about their relationship to God based on what we read of their actions, I firmly believe we cross the line that Christ told us not to cross, namely that of judging each other, specifically, the state of their soul.
                  "Here I raise my Ebenezer"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Duane Morse View Post
                    Maybe the board should have "Gossip and Bash" forum.
                    You know, this post sort of aggravates me. There is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning the actions of a person ESPECIALLY if they go against what they preach. Now I know nothing about Pat Robinson, but this person has every right to ask the hard hitting questions. Do we know what is in Pat's heart? Nope, but there is no harm in discussing whether or not his actions are Christian. Discussing something does not equate gossip or slander UNLESS you are flat out accusing someone with no evidence. Gossip, slander and judgment are words that get thrown around this site far too often.

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                    • #11
                      And choice number three....

                      3. Pat Robertson has recognized that religon has no effect on political suitibility, and has thus chosen to aid Guiliani because of the political good he would do, ignoring his irrelevant religon.
                      "Death is not the end of life, but a change in life"

                      "Innocence is ugly
                      to the one who is guilty"
                      -10 Years

                      Holbrook Johnson: "Those who reason are lost."
                      GK Chesterton: "Those who do not reason are not worth finding."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Duane Morse View Post
                        OK.

                        Show us some proof, and not merely your own speculations and accusations.

                        Until you can, it remains gossip and bashing - not to mention slander, libel and defamation of character.
                        Not to nitpick, but slander is oral not written

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                        • #13
                          I would suggest that the OP do some research into the policies and ways that RG conducted himself in a professional/on the job manner and the things that PR has done with his organization. Actually knowing what you're putting forth makes a big difference.

                          In other words you have no idea of the facts involved and are just reacting to how you "Feel" about it. Do some research into the subjects and apply some common sense and logic to come to a decision please.
                          Day by day
                          Oh Dear Lord
                          Three things I pray
                          To see thee more clearly
                          Love thee more dearly
                          Follow thee more nearly
                          Day by day

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                          • #14
                            Of all the stupid things Robertson has said and done over the years, this is the thing that makes you question his motives?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RealPatriot View Post
                              It's not bashing or gossip if it's true!
                              Earlier you used the term "either" which meant that the matter of the truth was not settled for you. To then proclaim it as the truth when you are not really sure it is makes the telling of it a bit nefarious.

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