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    Besides the bible itself do you read any other ancient text, either for a source or just curiosity, fun, etc?

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    Josephus.

    I've been studying Luke lately and came across the Lord's prophecy concerning Jerusalem being encircled with an embankment built around it, and no stone left on another, then had the urge to see how it was fulfilled in a more detailed, historical account. Josephus, the Jewish historian, who was present at the scene and attempting to serve as a mediator between the Romans and rebellious Jews, wrote an account that confirmed what Jesus had said about 40 years previous. Amazing and faith strengthening. The book is a very important work and covers the history of the Jews from antiquity to the fall of Masada in 73ad..

    The Confessions of Augustine.

    A classic. The intimate, personal account of a lifetime's walk with God by one of the great Church leaders. A favorite of Catholics and Protestants alike.

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    • #3
      Thanks Lefty

      I have read some of Josephus as well but not finished all his works, the same with Philo. I am currently reading thru the Talmud and the Zohar, they are very interesting but are quite large filling many volumes making them a lengthy project.

      Untamed

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      • #4
        Early Christian writings

        My ip address will be found in the logs at http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/ more than once.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Untamed View Post
          Besides the bible itself do you read any other ancient text, either for a source or just curiosity, fun, etc?
          Yeah, the early fathers. That is if you can get them. In your own language would be a plus too. Some of the best things are hard to find.

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          • #6
            Flavius Josephus

            Especially like this:

            JOSEPHUS'S DISCOURSE TO THE GREEKS CONCERNING HADES...

            http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studi...phus/hades.htm

            Galatians 2: 20
            I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Untamed View Post
              Besides the bible itself do you read any other ancient text, either for a source or just curiosity, fun, etc?
              Yes, I have been reading ancient texts for about a couple of decades now - maybe longer.

              I read early christians writings by 'fathers' in the early ages - Ireneaus, Josephus, Eusebius, The Book Of Enoch, Justin Martyr, and so on. I read a little by heathens, where christian validation is concerned... tacitus, etc.

              Back in the 1980's (when I finished reading the Bible all the way through), I bought The Lost Books Of The Bible and The Forgotten Books Of Eden. I was really moved within my heart reading The Books Of Adam and Eve (I & II), and woah, I so much loved The Secrets Of Enoch - soooo scientifically astonishing!

              I do this because I have an interest in my christian history and culture - one thing for sure, I see they were making mistakes like we have these days - some of the same ones, even some of the same, uh, "misinterpretations" might be the correct word?

              Blessings,
              Clifton
              "A text without context is a pretext."

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              • #8
                If memory serves me here, Sacred-texts.com has some prechristian pseudepigraphs, apocrypha and books like Jasher, 1Enoch, etc.

                I enjoyed many of those, one pseudepigraph actually answered a question I had that not one person was able to answer for me. A question not answered in any text, nope not even the bible.

                Untamed

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lefty View Post
                  Josephus.

                  I've been studying Luke lately and came across the Lord's prophecy concerning Jerusalem being encircled with an embankment built around it, and no stone left on another, then had the urge to see how it was fulfilled in a more detailed, historical account. Josephus, the Jewish historian, who was present at the scene and attempting to serve as a mediator between the Romans and rebellious Jews, wrote an account that confirmed what Jesus had said about 40 years previous. Amazing and faith strengthening. The book is a very important work and covers the history of the Jews from antiquity to the fall of Masada in 73ad..


                  Here is a clip from Josephus:

                  ...It happened at the end of this Second Passover in 66: “A supernatural apparition was seen, too amazing to be believed. What I am now to relate would, I imagine, be dismissed as imaginary, had this not been vouched for by eyewitnesses, then followed by subsequent disasters that deserved to be thus signalized. For before sunset chariots were seen in the air over the whole country, and armed battalions speeding through the clouds and encircling the cities.” 19 A fourth sign occurred inside the Temple on the next great feast day, and was witnessed by the twenty-four priests who were on duty: “At the feast called Pentecost, when the priests had entered the inner courts of the Temple by night to perform their usual ministrations, they declared that they were aware, first, of a violent commotion and din, then of a voice as of a host crying, ‘We are departing hence!’ “20 There was a fifth sign in the heavens that year: “A star that looked like a sword stood over the city and a comet that continued for a whole year.”...


                  I think the correct reference to that The Jewish War, vi.v.3. 20.; but also note this was by writing of Tacitus, confirmed:

                  the summary of these events by the Roman historian Tacitus: “In the sky appeared a vision of armies in conflict, of glittering armour. A sudden lightning flash from the clouds lit up the Temple. The doors of the holy place abruptly opened, a superhuman voice was heard to declare that the gods were leaving it, and in the same instant came the rushing tumult of their departure” (Histories, v.13).

                  Blessings,
                  Clifton

                  "A text without context is a pretext."

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                  • #10
                    All things work toward the good of those who love God.

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                    • #11
                      Clifton

                      Yes when I first read that it stuck in my mind for quite awhile, reminded me of portions of texts like Ezekiel and Isaiah.

                      Untamed

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                      • #12
                        Sophocles, Euripides, Plato...

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                        • #13
                          Here is a question for anyone that cares to answer it.

                          What text eludes to black rain?

                          There is only one that I know of.

                          Untamed

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                          • #14
                            The ancient codex of Ozzie Ozbourne?

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                            • #15
                              This sounds like a Jeopardy question out of the $150,000 category. I think I'll sit this one out.

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