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    Matthew 5:20
    For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
    ....Pharisee: a member of a Jewish sect of the intertestamental period noted for strict observance of rites and ceremonies of the written law and the prophets and, for insistence on the validity of their own oral traditions concerning the law and the prophets.
    ....Scribe: a member of a learned class in ancient Israel through New Testament times studying the written law and the prophets and serving as copyists, editors, teachers, and jurists of the written law and the prophets.

    Romans 3:23
    For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.
    This (Romans 3:23) would include us and the scribes and pharisees.
    Jesus pointed out that pharisees would not recognize when and where they fail so they could confess and repent where they fail in their obedience so they became self-righteous.
    So, when I am disobedient in act or thought I must recognize admit/confess and repent.
    When I admit/confess and repent that I have failed and do fail and will fail in obedience to God then I recognize my need for Christ righteousness and then I exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees.

    Obedience, obedience to what?
    Let Christ explain this........
    Matthew 22:34
    34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together. 35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
    36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    37 Jesus said Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    We haven't been set free from ourobligation to be obedient to
    all the law and the prophets...We have by Christ righteousness been set free from the results of our failure at keeping all the law and the prophets. We are still obligated to be obedient to all the law and the prophets.

  • #2
    walked,

    I am not being sarcastic to you, this has been on my mind throughout today.


    You wrote:

    37 Jesus said Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

    We haven't been set free from our obligation to be obedient to all the law and the prophets...We have in Christ been set free from the results of our failure at keeping all the law and the prophets. We are still obligated to be obedient to all the law and the prophets
    .

    It is impossible to even think we can do this. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can,t!!!! To keep the first one do you realize that you have to do this 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year for the rest of your life?? That means that prized sports car needs to go away, how about work, do we work 50-60 hours a week to barely make the payment on the house that's way more than what we could get by with. How about the hunting trip that we look forward to ALL YEAR? You know the list goes on and on....

    How about loving my neighbor as myself, 24/7/365?

    I fail before I even get dressed and in my truck to go to work!!!


    This is what people who think they are saved do not recognize. We are complete and total sinners, 24/7/365, God wants us to admit it and trust what the Scriptures say concerning what Jesus HAS done and what He promises He WILL do for those who believe.

    I guess we can think we are obligated to keep them, I might as well give up on that too because there is no way I even come close. I fall soooo short.

    But.....thank God for imputation!

    Thank God that there was One who did do it!!!
    Mark


    “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." Matthew 7:13-14

    (All Scripture quoted is from NKJV unless otherwise noted)

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    • #3
      Lets just look at the commandments which apply to our relationship with other men:

      (Exo 20:12-17 KJV) Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
      {13} Thou shalt not kill.
      {14} Thou shalt not commit adultery.
      {15} Thou shalt not steal.
      {16} Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
      {17} Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

      If love is your motive in all things, do you really need to rehearse these commands? Love will honor all people; love is the antithesis of murderous hate; love does not lust after the things of the flesh to covet the wife of another; love does not desire to steal what belongs to another; love for the truth in not bent towards lying; and love does not covet anything that belongs to another. In fact coveting is the theme of all these commands in one way or another. Rather the Spirit of the Lord is one of generosity. Therefore by the Spirit we can hope in all things, believe all things and thru love, is in and of itself pure from these vices and can endure injustice and bear with the sins of others.

      Love is therefore the place of rest and the fulfillment of all the law. If love is your focus, you needn't even concern yourself with "keeping the law". And if you should transgress against another, the Spirit will reveal this to you so you can repent and make peace. Therefore we walk according to the Spirit and do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh which the law only incites.

      "Keep off the grass!" Will only make you want to not do it! Make love your focus and this will not even be a challenge. Instead you will already desire to see God's creation thrive. And thoughts of murder, thefts, adultery, etc. will be the furthest thing from your mind. An already obedient child need not be warned. Since this is what the Lord redeemed us for. That we might delight in His goodness because it is also our desire.
      Robin

      Truth is so obscure in these times and falsehood so established that, unless one loves the truth, he cannot know it. - Blaise Pascal
      And Jesus saith unto him [Thomas], I am the way the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6
      Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford
      Those who compromise with Christ’s enemies may be reckoned with them. - C.H. Spurgeon

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      • #4
        Philippians 3:1-11
        1 Whatever happens, dear brothers and sisters,* may the Lord give you joy. I never get tired of telling you this. I am doing this for your own good.
        2 Watch out for those dogs, those wicked men and their evil deeds, those mutilators who say you must be circumcised to be saved. 3 For we who worship God in the Spirit* are the only ones who are truly circumcised. We put no confidence in human effort. Instead, we boast about what Christ Jesus has done for us.
        4 Yet I could have confidence in myself if anyone could. If others have reason for confidence in their own efforts, I have even more! 5 For I was circumcised when I was eight days old, having been born into a pure-blooded Jewish family that is a branch of the tribe of Benjamin. So I am a real Jew if there ever was one! What’s more, I was a member of the Pharisees, who demand the strictest obedience to the Jewish law. 6 And zealous? Yes, in fact, I harshly persecuted the church. And I obeyed the Jewish law so carefully that I was never accused of any fault.
        7 I once thought all these things were so very important, but now I consider them worthless because of what Christ has done. 8 Yes, everything else is worthless when compared with the priceless gain of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. I have discarded everything else, counting it all as garbage, so that I may have Christ
        9 and become one with him. I no longer count on my own goodness or my ability to obey God’s law, but I trust Christ to save me. For God’s way of making us right with himself depends on faith. 10 As a result, I can really know Christ and experience the mighty power that raised him from the dead. I can learn what it means to suffer with him, sharing in his death, 11 so that, somehow, I can experience the resurrection from the dead!
        Last edited by jiggyfly; Jan 14th 2008, 02:21 PM.

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        • #5
          I've always viewed that particular scripture (Matthew 5:20) to mean that if not even the Pharisee's are able to inherit the kingdom of God (keeping within in the cultural context) then we haven't a chance either.

          And as I turned to face the door,
          In walked the sovereign grace of God

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mark F View Post
            walked,

            I am not being sarcastic to you, this has been on my mind throughout today.

            You wrote:

            It is impossible to even think we can do this. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can,t!!!! To keep the first one do you realize that you have to do this 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year for the rest of your life?? That means that prized sports car needs to go away, how about work, do we work 50-60 hours a week to barely make the payment on the house that's way more than what we could get by with. How about the hunting trip that we look forward to ALL YEAR? You know the list goes on and on....

            How about loving my neighbor as myself, 24/7/365?

            I fail before I even get dressed and in my truck to go to work!!!


            This is what people who think they are saved do not recognize. We are complete and total sinners, 24/7/365, God wants us to admit it and trust what the Scriptures say concerning what Jesus HAS done and what He promises He WILL do for those who believe.

            I guess we can think we are obligated to keep them, I might as well give up on that too because there is no way I even come close. I fall soooo short.

            But.....thank God for imputation!

            Thank God that there was One who did do it!!!
            All of us are in the same boat at the moment.... Just because it is impossible to walk in obedience does not mean that we are not obligated to, thats where Christ righteousness enters.
            We haven't been (set free) from our obligation to be obedient to all the law and the prophets just because we cant possibly keep them... We have by Christ righteousness been (set free) from the results of our failure at keeping all the law and the prophets. We are still obligated to be obedient to all the law and the prophets.

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            • #7
              Thank you for all your kind words of encouragement.

              My point being this: A recognition of the overwhelming fact that of ourselves we can do nothing to ATTAIN the righteousness required to face our Holy God.


              I rest completely in the knowledge of Christ. When God looks at me.....He sees the Blood!!

              Again, I thank our loving Father for IMPUTATION!
              Mark


              “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." Matthew 7:13-14

              (All Scripture quoted is from NKJV unless otherwise noted)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mark F View Post
                Thank you for all your kind words of encouragement.

                My point being this: A recognition of the overwhelming fact that of ourselves we can do nothing to ATTAIN the righteousness required to face our Holy God.


                I rest completely in the knowledge of Christ. When God looks at me.....He sees the Blood!!

                Again, I thank our loving Father for IMPUTATION!
                Amen Mark I agree

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                • #9
                  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

                  Jesus' parable of the Pharisee and the publican in Luke 18:9-14 gives us an idea of the outward standard of holiness that the Pharisees observed. This Pharisee did not cheat, steal, or commit adultery. He gave tithes of everything that he possessed and fasted twice each week.

                  In His sermon on the mount, Jesus is not saying that we have to fast more than twice each week to enter into the kingdom of heaven. Rather, He is exposing the religious leaders' superficial self-righteousness, and He begins to explain through Matthew 6:18 that God is looking on the heart (1 Sam. 16:7). The scribes and Pharisees had put all of the emphasis on physical acts of compliance with many laws and traditions; but in their hearts, they were still of their father, the devil (Jn. 8:44). They had made the outside clean, but within, they were full of all uncleanness, hypocrisy, and iniquity (Mt. 23:25-28).

                  The Pharisees, like many people today, were ignorant of achieving right standing (righteousness) with God through simply receiving His forgiveness by faith and were trying to earn salvation by their acts. No one can fulfill God's commands (Rom. 3:23) but Jesus (Heb. 4:15). Therefore, to be righteous, we must put our faith in what He has done for us (Rom. 9:31-10:4; 2 Cor. 5:17; Gal. 3:11-12; 5:4-6).

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mark F View Post
                    It is impossible to even think we can do this. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can,t!!!! To keep the first one do you realize that you have to do this 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year for the rest of your life?? That means that prized sports car needs to go away, how about work, do we work 50-60 hours a week to barely make the payment on the house that's way more than what we could get by with. How about the hunting trip that we look forward to ALL YEAR? You know the list goes on and on....
                    Why so negative? Why exactly would you need to give up your car? Do you overwork yourself to pay for what you can't afford? If so, just get rid of those things that you can't afford. No need to stress yourself over it. And what exactly is wrong with going on the hunting trip you've been looking forward to? Maybe I'm just not getting your examples.

                    This is how I see this.

                    Ephesians 5:1
                    - Therefore be imitators of God as dear children.

                    We are to imitate perfection, even if we can't be perfect in doing so. Here's an example. When my son was a small child, he would stand in my hubby's work boots and try to walk like daddy. He was cute but he could not control the large shoes (hubby wears a size 12 1/2 - 13). But all the same he would imitate his father. Now my son is ten and and big ten at that. He wears a size 7 1/2 himself now and if he were to try on his fathers shoes, they would still be much to big but he would not look nearly as awkward in them. I imagine my son in 5 years. He will likely be very close to not looking awkward at all in those same shoes. And five years from then, he will most likely be standing tall in his father's shoes. Though he only imitated him in futility as a toddler, as he matures and grows, that imitation should become more and more sure. I believe that in the same way we are to imitate our Father though He has much bigger shoes that seem impossible to fill. I don't know about you but though I'm not where I've reached perfection, I am also not where I was when I first came to Messiah. Each day as I grow and mature in Him, I look less awkward in His shoes.

                    Oh, but as to the OP. We most assuredly must have righteousness greater than the Pharisees. They only had there own righteousness (filthy rags), we must accept the free gift of Yeshua's righteousness, as that is the only righteousness that is worthy.

                    God Bless!
                    II Timothy 2:15
                    Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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                    • #11
                      Of all the people have posted here thus far, the only person I think comes close to understanding the Sermon in the Mount in context is "studying2show" their her analogy of the "awkward shoes." READ THE TEXT!

                      He begins the sermon on the mount by exclaiming that the poor, mourning, meek, hungry and thirsty people before him would be blessed (Matt. 5:1-11). I interpret this passage differently than many. I tend to think Lucan version is a bit closer to the original in the "unspiritualized" version of "blessed are the poor" rather than "blessed are the poor in spirit" (Luke 6:20-22). If you read the Lucan version, you are able to understand better what the Matthean version may have meant. In order to understand Matthew's meaning, we must understand that the audience he was preaching to was mostly lower class peasants and farmers. These people were not the "blessed" of God.

                      Blessing in Israel were those who had children, those who had wealth, and those who had great power. Jesus was turning the idea on its head by calling a group of "nobodies" blessed. The word is an old Hebrew idea that predates Jesus' life on earth. It is not easily translated into English. But this is the place the sermon on the mount starts. He does not call them "sinners" or "evil" or that they are "going to hell." He begins his message by proclaiming (earlier) that the kingdom of God has come near, and it is not just for the rich. It is for everyone.

                      That is also why he said "you ARE the salt of the world" (Not: Here's HOW to become the salt of the world). It is a question of being. A question of who we are. Jesus is allowing everyone to be the saltiness of the world. But he is speaking to Israel and suggesting that they have allowed themselves to be trampled on and they have hid their lights (Matt. 5:13-16).

                      Jesus' hope is that all men would follow his way of being Israel. That is, that they would realize HE is the "fulfillment of the law." Those who follow his interpretation of Torah will be great in his kingdom, and those who do not will be least in his kingdom (Mt. 5:19). And he turns the social world on its head again by suggesting that the pharisees and the scribes, the most religious people of the age (people who have would certainly been considered "blessed"), will not enter the kingdom. It is about more than a social or religious status, it is about following Jesus' way of Torah.

                      Jesus then spends three more chapters on his way of being Torah, then explains that his way is narrow, that we will be judged by our fruit, and that a wise man will be his house upon the "rock" (in other words, on the teachings of Jesus). All of this to say, I am not sure how you get your interpretation of this passage. This passage is about taking on the yoke of Jesus Christ, asking the same spirit that empowered him--a nobody from the region of Galilee--to empower us to follow his way of doing things.

                      The, "I'm not good enough, and I never will be good enough" idea is not really biblical (even in a Pauline setting). We have to consider these things carefully before we begin talking about how to interpret Jesus' words.

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                      • #12
                        Studyin2show,

                        My ability to express my thoughts has left me again,.

                        I am not saying I am in that state of mind, but I know that UNTIL we come to the realization of our utter hopeless ability to please God without His grace, we I believe will think we are the ones being obedient.

                        Look at Peter how he repsonded to Jesus when he finally saw himself, or what was in himself. In Luke 5:8 he said "Depart from me for I am a sinful man" right? It wasn't until he recognized that there was no good in him that he finally saw Jesus' holiness.

                        This self worth gospel is devastating to the true message of redemption. It's not only not about me, it isn't slightly about me. We are objects of God's grace and deserve eternal seperation from Him.

                        But again I say, God be thanked for His unspeakable grace!
                        Mark


                        “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it." Matthew 7:13-14

                        (All Scripture quoted is from NKJV unless otherwise noted)

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                        • #13
                          Where did the idea that we have to realize we are worthless in order to understand God's holiness come? This idea has always seemed strange to me.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mark F View Post
                            Studyin2show,

                            My ability to express my thoughts has left me again,.

                            I am not saying I am in that state of mind, but I know that UNTIL we come to the realization of our utter hopeless ability to please God without His grace, we I believe will think we are the ones being obedient.

                            Look at Peter how he repsonded to Jesus when he finally saw himself, or what was in himself. In Luke 5:8 he said "Depart from me for I am a sinful man" right? It wasn't until he recognized that there was no good in him that he finally saw Jesus' holiness.

                            This self worth gospel is devastating to the true message of redemption. It's not only not about me, it isn't slightly about me. We are objects of God's grace and deserve eternal seperation from Him.

                            But again I say, God be thanked for His unspeakable grace!
                            I came to that place, Mark, nine years ago. Messiah lifted me up from my pit of despair and clothed me with HIS righteousness! Now that He has done this, should I not walk in the righteousness in which He has given me? I will imitate my Father's perfection though I am not perfect, as Paul writes that we should in Ephesians 5:1. And each day I expect it will be less awkward in His shoes! Please don't assume me self-righteous as my righteousness is but filthy rags. In the same way, don't expect me to cast aside the righteousness I've been given and assume my position again in that pit of despair from which He lifted me. The joy of the LORD IS my strength!

                            God Bless!
                            II Timothy 2:15
                            Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
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                            • #15
                              Hi Coldfire136, #12
                              In looking at those 2 passages, both Matthew and Luke make a point of showing that Jesus was speaking to His disciples - not the masses. This was not a teaching for the multitudes, but for those He had handpicked to be the salt of the earth. Does that make a difference in your post?
                              Robin

                              Truth is so obscure in these times and falsehood so established that, unless one loves the truth, he cannot know it. - Blaise Pascal
                              And Jesus saith unto him [Thomas], I am the way the truth and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6
                              Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford
                              Those who compromise with Christ’s enemies may be reckoned with them. - C.H. Spurgeon

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