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    Today a cyclone hit Burma and has killed more than 10,000 and without help many more will die.

    Just the biggest hit in a while in what seems an ever-growing trend of natural disasters . . .

    Is it just a bad 10 odd years we're going through or could these be 'the beginning of birth pains.' the Bible mentions?
    Laughing at the world
    Watching it bend
    Enjoying the show
    Just waiting for the end

    Not worried a bit
    as I walk through the mist
    By God I will sit
    And watch the world twist

    In Him I will trust
    And only Him I will fear
    When the world turns to dust
    I know He'll be near

  • #2
    Originally posted by White Spider View Post
    Today a cyclone hit Burma and has killed more than 10,000 and without help many more will die.

    Is it just a bad 10 odd years we're going through or could these be 'the beginning of birth pains.' the Bible mentions?
    • The Great Cyclone of 1780 killed over 25,000 people.
    • The Pointe--Pitre Cyclone of 1776 killed over 6,000.
    • The Newfoundland Cylcone of 1780 killed over 4,000.
    Do you think the people living during the late 16th century, who lived during the 10-year span of these great killer Cyclones, thought they were in 'the beginning of birth pains'?

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    • #3
      While i believe these disasters to be a sign of the times, i don't believe that is what the birth pains are about. But rather i believe the birth pains has to do with an emergence of the true "church" A revival of sorts.

      Shalom,
      Tanja
      Jer 6:16 Thus says the Lord: Stand at the crossroads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths, where the good way lies; and walk in it, and find rest for your souls.
      2Jn 1:9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.
      If it's not done out of unselfish love, then it's hardly righteous.
      http://disciple2yeshua.wordpress.com/



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      • #4
        It's a terrible tragedy for sure. But there are a few things to remember:

        - We live in an age of instant worldwide communication.
        - There are countless news media outlets all competitive for ratings. What might seem like a rapid increase in disasters is also because so many more news outlets exist than 30 years ago and their all reporting the same things.
        - We are at the highest worldwide population in history. When a disaster happens chances are more people will be affected.
        - People have been incorrectly predicting the end times for hundreds of years
        - Only God the father, not even Jesus, knows the time of His return.

        Jesus could return tomorrow or in 500 years. It's going to happen so fast we won't have time to prepare worldly things for it and I think we are fooling ourselves if we think we somehow know God's plan. I live my life to love God and others and excessive worry won't change His plan at all. It will only make us get gray hair faster.

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        • #5
          labor pains

          I believe it is labor pains, all the hurricanes, tornadoes, cyclones, sunamis, earthquakes, it seems almost every week it is something, and if it is labor pains, they will only continue to get more devastating

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          • #6
            Speaking of natural disaster run amuck: I was listening to the weather channel today about all the tornado outbreaks they've been having in the US and heard some startling statistics.
            So far this year, there has been something like 386; just this year, and the previous 10 YEAR high was over 400. That is really a jump. Makes me terrified to think of hurricane season soon being upon my part of the planet.
            Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held it's ground.
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            MAY WE IN EVIL'S HOUR, TRUTH'S SWORD WITH BOLDNESS WIELD

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            • #7
              Birthing Pains

              I thought birthing pains is when Israel start to have many things to happen really fast like a woman having contractions until she gives birth. Although, I know other parts of the world will go through catastrophes during these times. Besides the fact that Israel is going through issues with Iran and Syria right now and the US military is in the Persian Gulf gearing up for a potential war; what else is going on? School me

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              • #8
                Originally posted by David Taylor View Post
                • The Great Cyclone of 1780 killed over 25,000 people.
                • The Pointe--Pitre Cyclone of 1776 killed over 6,000.
                • The Newfoundland Cylcone of 1780 killed over 4,000.
                Do you think the people living during the late 16th century, who lived during the 10-year span of these great killer Cyclones, thought they were in 'the beginning of birth pains'?
                Those don't even all add up to the one Tsunami South Asia had . . .

                Since 2000 we've had the largest Tsunami ever recorded, the worst Hurricane the U.S. has ever seen in Katrina I believe, now this cyclone in Burma . . . Not to mention all the severe storms on the eastern side of the states this year.

                I know the Hayward fault in California is due for a big one. On average every 140 years it has 7.0+ quake, and 2008 is its 140 year anniversary so I imagine that will go soon. And when it goes it's only a little while until the connected fault lines shift from the pressure put on them after the Hayward fault moves.

                The Cascadia fault off the Northwestern coast could possibly go off. Scientists have no way of telling when and there is no real pattern, but they say it's the same type of fault that caused the South Asia Tsunami and its gone of 4 times in the past. None while we've occupied the States, but there is evidence showing it's gone off 4 times most recently in 1700. And with the population along the coast now it will cause major damage.

                I believe we may just be going through a phase the world hits every once in a while, but with everything else going on as far as politics, economics, world relations etc. it seems to all add up.

                And MrAnteater . . . none of it worries me. The possibility of seeing Christ's return excites me. If I have to deal with the worst problems the worlds ever seen, oh well . . . doesn't worry me one bit
                Laughing at the world
                Watching it bend
                Enjoying the show
                Just waiting for the end

                Not worried a bit
                as I walk through the mist
                By God I will sit
                And watch the world twist

                In Him I will trust
                And only Him I will fear
                When the world turns to dust
                I know He'll be near

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                • #9
                  Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. - Matthew 24:4-8
                  Laughing at the world
                  Watching it bend
                  Enjoying the show
                  Just waiting for the end

                  Not worried a bit
                  as I walk through the mist
                  By God I will sit
                  And watch the world twist

                  In Him I will trust
                  And only Him I will fear
                  When the world turns to dust
                  I know He'll be near

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Royalchild View Post
                    I thought birthing pains is when Israel start to have many things to happen really fast like a woman having contractions until she gives birth. Although, I know other parts of the world will go through catastrophes during these times. Besides the fact that Israel is going through issues with Iran and Syria right now and the US military is in the Persian Gulf gearing up for a potential war; what else is going on? School me
                    What else is going on, let's see . . . there's the rare rapid spread of hand-foot-mouth disease in China that's affected 8,500+ kids and killed 24.

                    Mainly in one province its popped up in a dozen others including Beijing, that's something to keep an eye on.

                    Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.


                    Then there's global food crisis.


                    From CNN.com

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                    New British biofuels rule sparks food debate
                    U.N. food agency seeks more aid for Haiti
                    Brazil leader denies biofuels hiking food prices
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                    Instability spreads as food prices skyrocket
                    U.S. to give $200M in emergency food aid
                    Egyptians can't afford daily bread
                    Staples become luxuries as costs rise in Middle East

                    Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!" - Revelation 6:6
                    Laughing at the world
                    Watching it bend
                    Enjoying the show
                    Just waiting for the end

                    Not worried a bit
                    as I walk through the mist
                    By God I will sit
                    And watch the world twist

                    In Him I will trust
                    And only Him I will fear
                    When the world turns to dust
                    I know He'll be near

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                    • #11
                      I do believe we are in the EndTimes, but these times are in God's Time, and I do not think he wears a watch nor looks at a calendar, so what we think could be quick in 5 years, could be quick to Him in 500.

                      We will never know, so we should look towards the future but remember we are only promised the moment.

                      The only thing you take with you when you go is the love you have given and the love you have received.



                      Lynn

                      "Whatever you did to the least of me, you did to Me."
                      Matthew 25:40
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                      "Whatever you did for the least of these,
                      you did for Me."
                      Matthew 25:40

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by White Spider View Post
                        Is it just a bad 10 odd years we're going through or could these be 'the beginning of birth pains.' the Bible mentions?
                        Hi! I do believe that the intensified occurrence of natural disasters is a sign of Christ's return, along with war, famine, false "Messiahs", and persecution of believers in Jesus. In Mark 13:5-13 Jesus spoke of people claiming to be the Messiah, wars breaking out near and far, earthquakes in many parts of the world, and famines. He said all this would be merely the beginning of the horrors to come, and when these things "begin to happen", watch out, for intense persecution will soon follow. I find it very interesting that the world is facing global food shortages right now, even in America. There has also been an incredible number of earthquakes around the world within the last year or two. Oregon has been having earthquake swarms off the coast. Now Reno, Nevada, has just been also facing swarms of earthquakes, a very strange thing. It seems like almost everyday I'm reading about earthquakes in many parts of the world. On top of that, there are the other natural disasters, such as the cyclones/hurricanes/tornadoes/floods. For those happening here in the U.S., I suspect very strongly that the Lord is sending these things to us as a warning and judgment for our part in attempting to prod Israel into giving away God's land to the Palestinians, as well as a warning and judgment for our increasing tolerance for immorality. If these are indeed the beginnings of the "horrors to come" around the world, like I believe they are, then we can soon expect the intense persecution of believers to start, too.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Royalchild View Post
                          I thought birthing pains is when Israel start to have many things to happen really fast like a woman having contractions until she gives birth. Although, I know other parts of the world will go through catastrophes during these times. Besides the fact that Israel is going through issues with Iran and Syria right now and the US military is in the Persian Gulf gearing up for a potential war; what else is going on? School me
                          Jesus spoke of intensifying wars, earthquakes, famines, and false Messiahs as the beginning of birth pangs that will precede His coming. But there is also a reference to birthpangs specifically related to Jerusalem. Isaiah 66:7-9 speaks of birth pangs in the context that the nation of Israel would be born suddenly, in a single day, before Jerusalem's birth pangs begin. In 1948 Israel did become a nation in a single day, and I think this reference indicates that now there will be "birth pangs" related to events surrounding Jerusalem. Perhaps that is what we are seeing right now with the planned division of Jerusalem. Besides the issue of a possible division of Jerusalem, the Palestinian/Israeli on-again-off-again peace treaty, terrorism against Israel, and Iran's threats to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, Israel is also facing a drought that is leaving their water supply in record low levels. There are many Bible prophecies that speak about Israel facing drought and crop failures in the end times, including references in Isaiah 5, Revelation 11:6, and Jeremiah 14.

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                          • #14
                            So it seems most of us have noticed the unusual weather round the world, those in America have really noticed some strange things.

                            Just saw on the news a lot of schools are having financial difficulty with the food prices rising so much.

                            And here in California a large amount of vineyards are expected to have a small harvest cause we had a late April frost. Major business out here.

                            Those earthquakes off the cost of Oregon worry me. That's where the Cascadia Fault line is and if it gets to a point where it's really stuck and does what they call a MEGA THRUST EARTHQUAKE it will cause a Tsunami they say would be really similar to the South Asia one. It runs from Oregon up the coast to British Colombia.


                            Slightly new topic since we seem to agree it's not just a phase the earth is passing through.

                            What do you all think the severe persecution will come from? The U.S.? Foreign countries? Both?
                            Laughing at the world
                            Watching it bend
                            Enjoying the show
                            Just waiting for the end

                            Not worried a bit
                            as I walk through the mist
                            By God I will sit
                            And watch the world twist

                            In Him I will trust
                            And only Him I will fear
                            When the world turns to dust
                            I know He'll be near

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                            • #15
                              On the Persecution of Christians

                              From Audacity of Hope: I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

                              Direct quote from Obama himself.
                              Laughing at the world
                              Watching it bend
                              Enjoying the show
                              Just waiting for the end

                              Not worried a bit
                              as I walk through the mist
                              By God I will sit
                              And watch the world twist

                              In Him I will trust
                              And only Him I will fear
                              When the world turns to dust
                              I know He'll be near

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