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  • #61
    Pesachpup

    "Jesus rose from the dead, both anistemi and egeiro, on the 1st day of the week. His resurrection (egeiro) was on the 1st day of the week during the daytime, and not on the sabbath. This time of his resurrection was AFTER the nighttime portion of Saturday night and Sunday morning. This rules out the possibility that Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday and was in the grave that night of Wed/Thurs,"


    No Jesus was already resurrected before Daylight on the 1st day of the week which means it happened right after sundown Saturday which began Sunday and the First Day of the Week..


    John 20:1-2 NKJV
    John 20
    The Empty Tomb



    1 Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was STILL DARK, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. 2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him.”

    3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS means He was crucified on Wednesday and placed in the tomb right before sundown. Thursday began Wednesday night at Sundown.

    WED SD to THUR SD = 1 NIGHT AND 1 DAY
    THUR SD to FRI SD = 1 NIGHT AND 1 DAY
    FRI SD to SAT SD = 1 NIGHT AND 1 DAY

    WEDNESDAY is the Day.

    No way to get 3 days and 3 nights from FRIDAY.

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    • #62

      Jonah 1:17

      Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.


      Matthew 12:40

      For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


      JESUS Connected Himself directly with Jonah's Death and Jonah's Resurrection. [Jonah 2:6]


      Jonah 2 :6
      I went down to the moorings of the mountains;
      The earth with its bars closed behind me forever;
      Yet You have brought up my life from the pit,
      O Lord, my God.

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      • #63
        . Jesus was crucified on THURSDAY, not Friday.
        2. The woman came to the tomb on the first day of the week as it began to dawn...probably between 5 and 6 am on Sunday. This was about 12 hours after the sabbatical laws at sundown on Saturday.

        Luk 24:1 KJV Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

        This is when the angels said that Jesus was risen, egeiro.

        Luk 24:6 KJV He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,Luk 24:7 KJV Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
        Luk 24:8 KJV And they remembered his words,

        From a Wednesday crucifixion, dawn Sunday morning would be the 4th morning,

        1st night, Wed. Eve, Thursday morning
        2and night, Thurs eve, Friday morning.
        3rd night, Friday eve, Saturday morning.
        4th night, Saturday eve, Sunday morning.

        This contradicts the words of Jesus when he said (in different places) that he would,
        1. Rise/anistemi on the third day and
        2. Rise/egeiro on the third day.

        In three different places the scriptures declare that the disciples did not understand whe Jesus used the word anistemi/rise from the dead, twice in Mark 9 and in Luke 18.

        EGEIRO:

        Mat 16:21 KJV From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
        Mat 17:23 KJV And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
        Mat 26:32 KJV But after I am risen again, I will go before you into Galilee.
        Mar 14:28 KJV But after that I am risen, I will go before you into Galilee.
        Luk 9:22 KJV Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.

        ANISTEMI:

        Mat 17:9 KJV And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
        Mat 20:19 KJV And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
        Mar 9:9 KJV And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.
        Mar 9:31-32 KJV For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him.
        Mar 9:9-10 KJV And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead. And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.
        Mar 10:34 KJV And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.
        Luk 16:31 KJV And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
        Luk 18:33-34 KJV And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
        Luk 24:46 KJV And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:s the scriptures state, the disciples did not understand what Jesus meant by anistemi, at the time that Mary Magdalene came to the tomb on the 1st day of the week at dawn.


        Joh 20:9 KJV For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead. (anistemi).

        Be Blessed
        The PuP

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        • #64
          Pesachpup

          "From a Wednesday crucifixion, dawn Sunday morning would be the 4th morning,

          1st night, Wed. Eve, Thursday morning
          2and night, Thurs eve, Friday morning.
          3rd night, Friday eve, Saturday morning.
          4th night, Saturday eve, Sunday morning."


          Here lies the problem with your math:
          "4th night, Saturday eve, Sunday morning."

          John 20 - Part of verse 1 for emphasis
          Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb EARLY, while it was STILL DARK,

          This means she went while it was still NIGHT.

          He was not in the grave on Sunday Morning . He was already resurrected and gone from the tomb.


          Your math is FUZZY MATH as the Jews count a Day [24 hours] from Sundown to Sundown. This includes the Night and the Day.



          John 20:1-2 NKJV
          John 20
          The Empty Tomb



          1 Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was STILL DARK, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. 2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him.”

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          • #65
            Originally posted by guitarhillbilly View Post
            Pesachpup

            "From a Wednesday crucifixion, dawn Sunday morning would be the 4th morning,

            1st night, Wed. Eve, Thursday morning
            2and night, Thurs eve, Friday morning.
            3rd night, Friday eve, Saturday morning.
            4th night, Saturday eve, Sunday morning."


            Here lies the problem with your math:
            "4th night, Saturday eve, Sunday morning."

            He was not in the grave on Sunday Morning . He was already resurrected and gone from the tomb.


            Your math is FUZZY MATH as the Jews count a Day [24 hours] from Sundown to Sundown. This includes the Night and the Day.



            John 20:1-2 NKJV
            John 20
            The Empty Tomb



            1 Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was STILL DARK, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. 2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him.”
            Your assumption that Jesus arose (resurrected) on the sabbath day BEFORE he met Mary Magdalene (just before Sunday is in error. Here is why.

            1. Jesus met the two disciples on the road to Emmaus on the same day that the women came to the tomb.

            Luk 24:13 KJV And, behold, two of them went that SAME DAY to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.
            Luk 24:22 KJV Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre;

            2. This was during the day of [after] his resurrection and they testified that it was (still) the third day :

            Luk 24:21 KJV But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

            If Jesus had been crucified on a Wednesday, this day, Sunday afternoon, would be the fourth day since "these things were done". John further testified that these 2 disciples went immediately ri Jerusalem and found the disciples gathered together on the first day of the week at evening and this was the first time that Jesus appeared to the disciples.


            Luk 24:33 KJV And they rose up the SAME HOUR, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,...
            Luk 24:36 KJV And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
            Joh 20:19 KJV Then the SAME DAY at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

            John clearly lays out the first three appearances of Jesus to the disciples and this was the first appearance. The 2and time was when Thomas was with them for his first time. And the third is found in John 21:


            Joh 21:1 KJV After these things Jesus shewed himself again to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias; and on this wise shewed he himself...
            Joh 21:14 KJV This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.

            Jesus' first appearance on the 1st day of the week was the third day since these things were done and was not the fourth day.

            Be Blessed
            The PuP

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            • #66
              "'Your assumption that Jesus arose (resurrected) on the sabbath day BEFORE he met Mary Magdalene (just before Sunday is in error. Here is why.'"

              Your comment here does not represent anything I've said on this thread.


              Sunday BEGAN Saturday Night at Sundown. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Mary Magdalene came to the tomb AFTER Sundown SAT which is the 1st Day of the Week and before Daylight on the First Day of the Week. John 20:1


              I'm not assuming anything as Jesus WAS Resurrected AFTER 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS.

              This means he was Resurrected at Sundown on SAT which COMPLETED THE SABBATH DAY and Began the First Day of the week.

              You still are not counting the Days and Nights properly.

              There is no such thing as a 4th Day in my explanation and JOHN 20:1


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              • #67
                Originally posted by guitarhillbilly View Post
                "'Your assumption that Jesus arose (resurrected) on the sabbath day BEFORE he met Mary Magdalene (just before Sunday is in error. Here is why.'"

                Your comment here does not represent anything I've said on this thread.


                Sunday BEGAN Saturday Night at Sundown. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Mary Magdalene came to the tomb AFTER Sundown SAT which is the 1st Day of the Week and before Daylight on the First Day of the Week. John 20:1


                I'm not assuming anything as Jesus WAS Resurrected AFTER 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS.

                This means he was Resurrected at Sundown on SAT which COMPLETED THE SABBATH DAY and Began the First Day of the week.

                You still are not counting the Days and Nights properly.

                There is no such thing as a 4th Day in my explanation and JOHN 20:1

                You just are not getting it. Jesus didn't say that he would be in the tomb for 3 days & nights. He said that he would rise again from the dead on the third day. You seem to be counting from his burial at the end of Wednesday instead of your admittance that jesus was crucified on Wednesday.

                YOU SAID THIS,

                "3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS means He was crucified on Wednesday and placed in the tomb right before sundown. Thursday began Wednesday night at Sundown."

                Three days & nights AFTER the ninth hour of Wednesday would conclude on Saturday afternoon before the sabbath had ended.

                The two Emmaus disciples state on the 1st day of the week, (which would be the 4th day after the crucifixion (and burial), that it was (STILL) the third day after these things were done. This is a clear contradiction to what you are claiming.

                You are also not getting it when Jesus used two different words in his teaching about his rising from the dead, anistemi and egeiro. Jesus was not resurrected from the dead until he ascended to "my Father and your Father, my God and your God". The disciples understood what Jesus meant when the word egeiro was used, but did not understand his use of the word anistemi until after the resurrection.

                Mar 9:10 KJV And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.
                Mar 9:32 KJV But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him.
                Luk 18:34 KJV And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
                Luk 24:8 KJV And they remembered his words,
                Joh 20:9 KJV For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.

                When Jesus met Mary M on the day of his resurrection, he testified that he had not yet ascended to his Father.

                I have nothing more to give you.

                Be Blessed
                The PuP

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                • #68
                  "Jesus didn't say that he would be in the tomb for 3 days & nights."

                  Yes He did.

                  MATT 12:40
                  New Living Translation
                  For as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for THREE days and THREE nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for THREE days and THREE nights.


                  He was crucified at the 9th hour on Wednesday and placed in the tomb just before dark on Wednesday.

                  ONE MORE TIME:

                  WED SD to THUR SD = 1 NIGHT AND 1 DAY
                  THUR SD to FRI SD = 1 NIGHT AND 1 DAY
                  FRI SD to SAT SD = 1 NIGHT AND 1 DAY

                  He was raised at Sundown on SAT which completed the Sabbath [and completed 3 days and 3 nights] and the Beginning of the First Day of the Week which is called Sunday.

                  I'll take my pearls somewhere else where they don't get trampled on.



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                  • #69
                    guitarhillbilly,
                    re: "He was crucified at the 9th hour..."

                    Actually, scripture says that it was the 3rd hour.




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                    • #70
                      guitarhillbilly,
                      re: "Sunday BEGAN Saturday Night at Sundown."

                      Actually, Saturday night had been over some 12 hours by sundown Saturday.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by rstrats View Post
                        guitarhillbilly,
                        re: "Sunday BEGAN Saturday Night at Sundown."

                        Actually, Saturday night had been over some 12 hours by sundown Saturday.
                        Does Jewish week have Saturday or Sunday? Are these days not associated with the Roman calendar, just asking?

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                        • #72
                          Thanks for sharing. I've always believed it was Wednesday. After all it was Pesach, right?

                          The video was nice and thorough. Great use of visualization.

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                          • #73
                            The boy at the end—is he sitting in a hole in the bed? Where is the rest of him?

                            https://youtu.be/lFML_PiSKJA?t=1178

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