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  • Why was Creation Day 2 not good?

    DAY 2:
    GENESIS 1 : 6 - 8 (KJV)
    • And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
    • And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which under the firmament from the waters which above the firmament: and it was so.
    • And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.


    Notice anything unusual about this day?

    It is the one day where God does not refer to his works as good or otherwise bless them!



    DAY 1:
    GENESIS 1 : 1 - 5 (KJV)
    • In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    • And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    • And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    • And God saw the light, that good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
    • And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    DAY 3:
    GENESIS 1 : 9 - 13 (KJV)
    • And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry appear: and it was so.
    • And God called the dry Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that good.
    • And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
    • And the earth brought forth grass, herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed in itself, after his kind: and God saw that good.
    • And the evening and the morning were the third day.

    DAY 4:
    GENESIS 1 : 14 - 19 (KJV)
    • And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
    • And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
    • And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: the stars also.
    • And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
    • And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that good.
    • And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

    DAY 5:
    GENESIS 1 : 20- 23 (KJV)
    • And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
    • And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that good.
    • And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
    • And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

    DAY 6:
    GENESIS 1 : 24 - 31 (KJV)
    • And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
    • And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that good.
    • And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    • So God created man in his image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
    • And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
    • And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
    • And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein life, every green herb for meat: and it was so.
    • And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

    DAY 7:
    GENESIS 2 : 1 - 3 (KJV)
    • Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
    • And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
    • And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.



    Why is it that the second day is the only one that God did not find suitable to call good or bless?

  • #2
    Hanging too much on jots and tittles.


    On day 6, He called everything good.

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    • #3
      This question was posed to me some time ago by a man on another forum who goes by "GospelOfPeace". His question has intrigued me greatly, and I have long sought the answer since.

      I have fiddled with a few theories of my own, and will be glad to share them, but first I would like to know your interpretations before I influence them with my thoughts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RabbiKnife View Post
        Hanging too much on jots and tittles.


        On day 6, He called everything good.
        When dealing with the inspired word of the Almighty, regarding the creation of all things no less, how can anything be dismissed as a "jot" or "tittle"?

        To he who has understanding...

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        • #5
          If you've got Moses' original manuscript, then you might have an argument with me!!!



          Reading the context of the passage, I find nothing even remotely odd about the absence of the phrase "it was good" attached to the second day. God clearly was pleased with everything that He had made.

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          • #6
            God is often referred to as the Living Water. Jesus taught that if we were thirsty, we could come to him and he would give us Water so that we would never thirst again. On the cross, for the first time he uttered the words "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" And "I thirst". For the first time in his life, Jesus was thirsty for God.

            On the first day of creation ... "Let there be light". The birth of Christ was pictured here.

            On the second day of creation..."Let the waters below be separated from the waters above". The crucifixion of Christ. Nothing was good about the Living Waters above being separated from the Living Waters below.

            On the third day of creation, God created seeds and earth. In Mark 4, God taught us about the sower and the seed. The seed is sown into the earth (heart) and it bears fruit. Jesus, taught us that unless a grain of wheat dies, it will not bear fruit. But if that seed dies, it will bear much fruit. The grain of wheat that died was sown in our hearts and we bear much fruit.

            God said on the third day "It is good" twice. The resurrection is twice as good as anything else God did!!! The resurrected Jesus is sown into the hearts of his children and He is fruitful.

            Finally, at the end of creation, God formed man in his own image. At that point, he no longer said it was just "good". Instead, he said "it is very good". When we are conformed to the image of Christ, God tells us "it is very good".
            Matt 9:13
            13 "But go and learn what this means: ' I DESIRE COMPASSION,AND NOT SACRIFICE,' for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
            NASU

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brother Mark View Post
              God is often referred to as the Living Water. Jesus taught that if we were thirsty, we could come to him and he would give us Water so that we would never thirst again. On the cross, for the first time he uttered the words "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" And "I thirst". For the first time in his life, Jesus was thirsty for God.

              On the first day of creation ... "Let there be light". The birth of Christ was pictured here.

              On the second day of creation..."Let the waters below be separated from the waters above". The crucifixion of Christ. Nothing was good about the Living Waters above being separated from the Living Waters below.

              On the third day of creation, God created seeds and earth. In Mark 4, God taught us about the sower and the seed. The seed is sown into the earth (heart) and it bears fruit. Jesus, taught us that unless a grain of wheat dies, it will not bear fruit. But if that seed dies, it will bear much fruit. The grain of wheat that died was sown in our hearts and we bear much fruit.

              God said on the third day "It is good" twice. The resurrection is twice as good as anything else God did!!! The resurrected Jesus is sown into the hearts of his children and He is fruitful.

              Finally, at the end of creation, God formed man in his own image. At that point, he no longer said it was just "good". Instead, he said "it is very good". When we are conformed to the image of Christ, God tells us "it is very good".
              Very good answer.

              Also, it could be that God's foreknowledge showed him that the heavens and the earth must be separated because man would fall into sin, and since God cannot be in the presence of sin, he knew there had to be an unreachable distance between fallen man, and God. Man being separated from God is not good, but because of man's sin, it had to be done? Not a great theory, but it's a theory none the less.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RabbiKnife View Post
                If you've got Moses' original manuscript, then you might have an argument with me!!!


                Like yourself, I work with the best I have.

                So by this statement am I correct to assume that you doubt the validity of the Biblical texts to which we have access? In questioning the validity of every known Biblical text, then do you not question the Bible itself.

                You can not question the validity of all known Biblical texts while believing them to be the inspired Word of God.

                Originally posted by RabbiKnife View Post
                Reading the context of the passage, I find nothing even remotely odd about the absence of the phrase "it was good" attached to the second day. God clearly was pleased with everything that He had made.
                Patterns and emphasis and repetition are EXTREMELY prominent throughout the Biblical text. Such a notable aberration from pattern and repetition when it is given such great emphasis in the surrounding verses truly IS "odd".

                Nothing is written without reason.

                Let us find.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ron Brown View Post
                  Very good answer.

                  Also, it could be that God's foreknowledge showed him that the heavens and the earth must be separated because man would fall into sin, and since God cannot be in the presence of sin, he knew there had to be an unreachable distance between fallen man, and God. Man being separated from God is not good, but because of man's sin, it had to be done? Not a great theory, but it's a theory none the less.
                  This is precisely what I feel is being referenced. The separation from that which is above, from that which is below. Creating an expanse to divide the heavenly from the earthly.

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                  • #10
                    "Good" was not included with the words on the second day. However, this does not mean that the second day was not good. I don't think Heaven is near bad. For the reason unknown to us, the term "good" was not included.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ron Brown View Post
                      Very good answer.

                      Also, it could be that God's foreknowledge showed him that the heavens and the earth must be separated because man would fall into sin, and since God cannot be in the presence of sin, he knew there had to be an unreachable distance between fallen man, and God. Man being separated from God is not good, but because of man's sin, it had to be done? Not a great theory, but it's a theory none the less.
                      My sister also mentions that God used the waters above to judge the earth in Noah's time. In his foreknowledge, he wasn't going to say that which he used for judgment was good.

                      The reason I go with the post above is because I can trace each verse to a NT verse to back up the thinking. Jesus is the light and he came to the darkness and the darkness comprehended it not. The Spirit came upon Mary just as the spirit hovered over the earth in Gen 1 and then there was light and so on from there.

                      Another take on the whole thing is to look at Paul's quote in Corinthians where he told the church that it was God that said "let there be light" and the light shown in our hearts. Thus, God hovering over and convicting our heart, caused us to be born again and light was shown in our hearts. Later, we began to have our spirit and soul separated (waters above and waters below) and this is a difficult process. But as we see later, it is also very fruitful. So in Genesis 1 we see both the coming of Christ and the sanctification of his brothers. Only God can write one chapter and have three different stories told all at once.


                      And of course, the way you state it is also an interesting take on the whole thing.
                      Matt 9:13
                      13 "But go and learn what this means: ' I DESIRE COMPASSION,AND NOT SACRIFICE,' for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners."
                      NASU

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                      • #12
                        Dont keep us in suspense whats your theory othersock ???

                        don't know if the monkey is the correct symbol for suspense but i have never had a chance to use him !!

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                        • #13
                          Anyone else see the Godhead (trinity) in Gen 1:2?
                          Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nobunaga View Post
                            Dont keep us in suspense whats your theory othersock ???

                            don't know if the monkey is the correct symbol for suspense but i have never had a chance to use him !!
                            My beliefs follow "Ron Brown's" almost exactly.

                            This is either the actual occurrence of, or an allegory for the separation of the spiritual from the natural, the heavenly from the earthly, God from man.

                            However, it would be strange that this would be the verse to portray it, as we have the separation of light from darkness on the first day, which would seem even more likely of such an allegory.

                            Also we have separation of waters to create dry land on day 3.

                            The first part of day 1 God creates light.Then he separates it. On day 2 he separates the waters above from below. The first part of day 3, he separates the waters to create dry land. Then he creates plant life.

                            -woah-

                            this potential parallel just came to me as I finished typing the statement above.

                            The first part of (Friday?) Christ was alive being crucified. Then he died. On (Saturday?) he was dead. For the veeery first part of (Sunday?) he was dead, and then he rose again.

                            This plays in well with what "Brother Mark" had to say, does it not?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by keck553 View Post
                              Anyone else see the Godhead (trinity) in Gen 1:2?

                              GENESIS 1 : 2 (KJV)

                              • And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

                              Not in and of itself...

                              But if we suppose that this is a direct reference to the Holy Spirit, and that...

                              GENESIS 1 : 1 (KJV)
                              • In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

                              ...this is a direct reference to the Father, and then plug in...

                              JOHN 1 : 1 - 16 (KJV)
                              • In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
                              • The same was in the beginning with God.
                              • All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
                              • In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
                              • And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
                              • There was a man sent from God, whose name John.
                              • The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe.
                              • He was not that Light, but to bear witness of that Light.
                              • Was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
                              • He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
                              • He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
                              • But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, to them that believe on his name:
                              • Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
                              • And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
                              • John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
                              • And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

                              ...with the appropriate understanding that "The Word" refers to Christ...

                              ...then, with these, yes I can see how the Trinity is in Genesis.

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