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  • Originally posted by tgallison View Post
    Didn't the death angel come because of sin?
    What does that have to do with sacrifice?
    Wasn't the passover lamb to take the place of the firstborn?
    No, it was a symbolic slaying of Egypt, since they worshiped cattle. In the temple era, it was a remembrance of the Exodus.

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    • Originally posted by Fenris View Post
      Many books. It's an archeological site.

      In any case, the dimensions Ezekiel described are larger than the temple mount.
      But isn't it true the dimensions were stated in Ezekiel before the second Temple was built?

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      • Originally posted by tgallison View Post
        But isn't it true the dimensions were stated in Ezekiel before the second Temple was built?
        Yep. And the second temple didn't conform to those dimensions.

        This is not some Jewish scam. It is well-known among Christian writers.

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        • Originally posted by Fenris View Post
          Yep. And the second temple didn't conform to those dimensions.

          This is not some Jewish scam. It is well-known among Christian writers.
          Didn't mean to imply it was some sort of scam. Just trying to get a better understanding.

          terrell

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          • Fenris,

            Since we believe that He can forgive without animal sacrifice --
            Is it your thought, then, that sacrifice of any kind allows God to forgive?
            And does not require the slaying of an innocent sacrifice?

            Blessings,
            BHS

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            • Any act of genuine contrition can serve in the place of sacrifice. That's all sacrifice was, anyway- an act of contrition.

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              • Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                Any act of genuine contrition can serve in the place of sacrifice. That's all sacrifice was, anyway- an act of contrition.
                How can an animal show contrition

                The animal sacrifices not only stopped because there is no longer a temple, but because no sacrifice can ever match what has been done by Yeshua HaMessiach.
                Do you not think that perhaps G_d allowed the Temple to be destroyed because the final sacrifice has been made??


                Mal 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

                12 But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.

                13 Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the LORD of hosts; and ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; thus ye brought an offering: should I accept this of your hand? saith the LORD.


                This verse 11 is so explanatory to me .... a pure offering....
                The LORD is my Miracle

                G_d was gracious He has shown favor


                Hope is a seed
                God plants in our hearts
                to remind us
                there are better things ahead.
                -Holley Gerth

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                • Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                  Right...but Jesus wasn't a prophet. He was God incarnate, sent as a sacrifice for man's sins. In my mind, it would have made a stronger case if he came 600 years earlier.


                  Of course we do. Because there are 2 billion Christians. If there were 2 billion Jews we'd be counting from Creation.

                  Fenris,

                  Yeshua was 'that prophet' Moshe spoke of. You must hear Him. If you do not, you will die in your sins.

                  2Witnesses

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                  • Originally posted by ACCM View Post
                    How can an animal show contrition
                    The animal doesn't show contrition. You do, by bringing it...

                    The animal sacrifices not only stopped because there is no longer a temple, but because no sacrifice can ever match what has been done by Yeshua HaMessiach.
                    Do you not think that perhaps G_d allowed the Temple to be destroyed because the final sacrifice has been made??
                    How can there be a 'final sacrifice'? In the bible, sacrifices only help the person who brought them, and only for a past accidental misdeed.

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                    • Originally posted by 2Witnesses View Post
                      Fenris,

                      Yeshua was 'that prophet' Moshe spoke of. You must hear Him. If you do not, you will die in your sins.

                      2Witnesses
                      There were many prophets the Moshe spoke of.

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                      • Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                        The animal doesn't show contrition. You do, by bringing it...
                        And in Yeshua, He showed that contrition, did He not ??

                        The LORD is my Miracle

                        G_d was gracious He has shown favor


                        Hope is a seed
                        God plants in our hearts
                        to remind us
                        there are better things ahead.
                        -Holley Gerth

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                        • Originally posted by ACCM View Post
                          And in Yeshua, He showed that contrition, did He not ??

                          That helped him. It doesn't help other people.

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                          • Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                            That helped him. It doesn't help other people.
                            That is your belief.... but actually, He helped us all
                            The LORD is my Miracle

                            G_d was gracious He has shown favor


                            Hope is a seed
                            God plants in our hearts
                            to remind us
                            there are better things ahead.
                            -Holley Gerth

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                            • That is your belief....

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                              • Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                                There were many prophets the Moshe spoke of.

                                Yes Fenris,

                                And they all condemned Israel. But Yeshua, 'THAT prophet', saved and condemned.

                                2Witnesses

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