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    Mt. 12:31 Therefore I say to you every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men

    Most of the Bible teachers that I respect and whose doctrine I agree with define this as the willful rejection of Jesus Christ. Other passages seem to indicate this as well, such as Heb. 10:26-29.

    So, if this is the definition of blasphemy....the willful rejection of Jesus Christ.....wouldn't this, then, apply only to those who have actually heard the Gospel; after all, one cannot reject something that he has no knowledge of.

    So, then, what of people who die without hearing the Gospel? If they die without Jesus because they have never heard of Him, and not because they have rejected Him (blasphemy), do you suppose that there is some allowance in God's grace that would cover him, and save his soul? After all, that person will not have committed the unforgivable sin.

    But then, the Bible says that a person must be born-again to enter Heaven, which means that if a person dies without Christ, that person will not enter Heaven. If everyone who dies without accepting Jesus (whether they have heard about him or not) is condemned, then the only other alternative is that each and every person who lives, or has ever lived, will get a chance to accept or reject Christ.

    This does not seem unplausible to me. I've heard many stories of people who were earnestly seeking God, then God sent a missionary to tell them of Jesus Christ.

    Again, the Bibel says that the only unforgivable sin is willful rejection of Jesus Christ....not dying in ignorance of Him. If we are to believe this, then we must also believe that there is no one who will die without haviing known about Jesus in some way, shape, or form.

    What do you guys think?

  • #2
    Originally posted by cloudburst View Post
    Mt. 12:31 Therefore I say to you every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men

    Most of the Bible teachers that I respect and whose doctrine I agree with define this as the willful rejection of Jesus Christ. Other passages seem to indicate this as well, such as Heb. 10:26-29.

    So, if this is the definition of blasphemy....the willful rejection of Jesus Christ.....wouldn't this, then, apply only to those who have actually heard the Gospel; after all, one cannot reject something that he has no knowledge of.

    So, then, what of people who die without hearing the Gospel? If they die without Jesus because they have never heard of Him, and not because they have rejected Him (blasphemy), do you suppose that there is some allowance in God's grace that would cover him, and save his soul? After all, that person will not have committed the unforgivable sin.

    But then, the Bible says that a person must be born-again to enter Heaven, which means that if a person dies without Christ, that person will not enter Heaven. If everyone who dies without accepting Jesus (whether they have heard about him or not) is condemned, then the only other alternative is that each and every person who lives, or has ever lived, will get a chance to accept or reject Christ.

    This does not seem unplausible to me. I've heard many stories of people who were earnestly seeking God, then God sent a missionary to tell them of Jesus Christ.

    Again, the Bibel says that the only unforgivable sin is willful rejection of Jesus Christ....not dying in ignorance of Him. If we are to believe this, then we must also believe that there is no one who will die without haviing known about Jesus in some way, shape, or form.

    What do you guys think?
    I think this has to be applied to God knowing the heart of the man, as oppossed to men determining who has blasphemed. People say a lot of stupid things within their walks(I know I have) so I think only one who is omniscient and can discern the intentions of men's hearts can determine who is guilty of this sin.

    In Christ,

    Stephen

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cloudburst View Post
      Mt. 12:31 Therefore I say to you every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men

      Most of the Bible teachers that I respect and whose doctrine I agree with define this as the willful rejection of Jesus Christ. Other passages seem to indicate this as well, such as Heb. 10:26-29.

      So, if this is the definition of blasphemy....the willful rejection of Jesus Christ.....wouldn't this, then, apply only to those who have actually heard the Gospel; after all, one cannot reject something that he has no knowledge of.

      So, then, what of people who die without hearing the Gospel? If they die without Jesus because they have never heard of Him, and not because they have rejected Him (blasphemy), do you suppose that there is some allowance in God's grace that would cover him, and save his soul? After all, that person will not have committed the unforgivable sin.

      But then, the Bible says that a person must be born-again to enter Heaven, which means that if a person dies without Christ, that person will not enter Heaven. If everyone who dies without accepting Jesus (whether they have heard about him or not) is condemned, then the only other alternative is that each and every person who lives, or has ever lived, will get a chance to accept or reject Christ.

      This does not seem unplausible to me. I've heard many stories of people who were earnestly seeking God, then God sent a missionary to tell them of Jesus Christ.

      Again, the Bibel says that the only unforgivable sin is willful rejection of Jesus Christ....not dying in ignorance of Him. If we are to believe this, then we must also believe that there is no one who will die without haviing known about Jesus in some way, shape, or form.

      What do you guys think?
      Blasfemy is when someone make himself like God.

      Bless.

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      • #4
        Blasphemy against the Holy Spiritis when someone knows the work of the Holy Spirit and still calls it the work of satan as the Pharisees had done.

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        • #5
          So, I see that there are a lot of different interpretations of what "blasphemy" is. Could you explain how you have come to accept these definitions?

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          • #6
            There is only one unforgivable unredeemable sin “A sin unto death” that I am aware of.
            Our God is able to save to the uttermost but this is one concise sin that there is no redemption for. That is……………….. being born of the devils seed
            I know this may sound so absurd, but bear with me and you will see from Jesus’ own words what I am speaking about
            Having spent some time and a few years as a ranking priest in this arena I was aware of the children of the devil {those born of the seed of the serpent} Although unaware of it at the time, I could not be born of the devils seed because I had accepted Christ earlier in my childhood.
            God literally and undeniably rescued me out from the grips of death when He called me to serve Him………. and how thankful I am. As I grew in the Word I gained an understanding of the adversary and his cohorts, and a greater understanding of the power we as Christians who are born again of Gods seed have.

            There is a devil with a host of devil spirits on this earth to disrupt the movement of the Word, and hinder Gods people, his purpose, to steal, kill, and destroy. A spiritual battle is taking place around us daily, not that we should focus on this, for “greater is He that is in you then he that is in the world”{II Cor 4:4}. But you should be aware of who your adversary is, and how he operates, so when conflict does arise you know where it is coming from and how to handle it. Which is the purpose of the nine manifestation of the spirit in I Corinthians 12

            Most, if not all of us here are born again of Gods incorruptible seed. This was accomplished by confessing Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. {Romans 10:9 and other scripture} When we accepted Christ as Lord in our lives the great miracle of all times took place “the new birth”. No more a person of body and soul we now have spirit within. That spirit {holy spirit} is the gift, the promise of the Father, incorruptible seed.

            Once you have seed you cannot loose it or change it, anymore then you can loose or change the physical seed from your natural birth. I Peter 1:23 speaks of both natural seed which is corruptible and God seed {holy spirit} which is incorruptible
            Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

            Now, just as you accepted Christ as your Lord, there are those who have accepted the devil as their lord and confessed with their mouth that he is the true god, and thus are born of the seed of the devil. Seed is seed, you cannot change it. Once you accept the devil as your true god, you are born of the devils seed; of coarse it is very different from Gods seed, as the Word declares, there is an end that is coming for the god of this world.
            This is not something that is done by accident …..oops! I just made Lucifer lord in my life……. just as making Jesus Christ lord in your life is no accident ……it’s a cognizant decision either way.

            Just to clarify: not everybody who is in satanic worship or who practices in the occult is “seed.” Many are not; some are born again Christians {obviously not walking in the light of their calling, and I use the word “Christians”, just to distinguish between the two seeds. They are former Christians born again of Gods seed} some are just a person of body and soul who have not made a commitment either way.

            See, I know that these people do exist we are talking about a whole other realm from the physical, and it would shock many of you to know who these people are, and in what positions they are in this world, but there are those who are thinking this is not real; so lets look at scripture.

            I am just going to point out a few things in the scripture as I go through but most of this should be pretty much self-explanatory.

            Genesis points out the two seeds, the one of the woman which was Christ Galatians 3:16 and the seed of the serpent

            Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel

            I John sets the distinction between forgivable and unforgivable sin. It does no good to pray for someone who is sinned unto death {seed of the devil}

            I John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

            Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
            32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come

            Mark 3:29 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
            29: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

            Luke 12:10b And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

            Matthew , Mark and Luke set up this full account for us recorded in John, of whom Jesus is again speaking to the same scribes and Pharisees, the ones who had committed the sin against the Holy Ghost.
            Note throughout this, that the eyes of there understanding are closed. People of the wrong seed will never understand spiritual truths.



            John 8:12-47

            12: Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
            13:The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
            14:Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
            15:Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
            16:And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
            17:It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
            18:I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
            19:Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
            20:These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
            21:Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
            22:Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
            23:And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
            24:I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
            25:Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
            26:I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
            27:They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
            28:Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
            29:And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
            30:As he spake these words, many believed on him

            Verse 30 tells us why Jesus even bothered to teach. He obviously knew the Pharisees would not believe, but others were present which did believe

            31:Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
            32:And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
            33:They (the scribes and Pharisee) answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
            Cont’d

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            • #7
              Unforgivable sin ……page 2

              34:Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
              35:And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
              36:If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
              37:I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

              They were Abraham’s seed according to the flesh, their physical bloodline.


              38:I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

              note: the mentioning of two different fathers

              39:They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham

              note: Jesus agrees in verse 37 that they were of Abraham’s seed then in verse 39 he disputes that. Verse 37 refers to the bloodline verse 39 is speaking of Abrahamic believers.

              40:But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
              41:Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

              They just forgot to mention which god. Jesus proceeds to clarify that for them

              42:Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
              43:Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
              44:Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

              45:And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
              46:Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
              47:He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
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              Our Father is God {Elohim} We are His sons and daughters because of the new birth which took place inside us. Jesus told the Pharisees that their father was the devil, and as I mentioned previously seed is seed it cannot be changed. When you are born the first time your physical birth, you have the physical seed of your parents. You cannot change who you are. You can run away from home, change your name, put a bag over your head, but you are still of the physical lineage; that physical seed that was passed on at birth.
              When you were born again you are no longer just body and soul, but body, soul, and spirit. You have that seed of God in Christ in you,. And are no longer limited to the senses walk, to walk according to the coarse of this world. We have that spiritual connection we are part of the family of God.

              There are others who have decided to take a different route, those who have selected to go the way of darkness, to make the god of this world, their god. Their father is the devil, the deceiver, the author of lies. Their power is real, and much glory and rewards do they receive here on earth ….but that will end. These are the children of the devil, who are born of the devils seed, they have gone the way of Cane, and that sin against the Holy Ghost is unforgivable, unchangeable, and unredeemable; for seed cannot be changed.
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              God Bless
              azheis

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              • #8
                Azheis;

                How, then, does one inherit this seed of the devil?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cloudburst View Post
                  So, I see that there are a lot of different interpretations of what "blasphemy" is. Could you explain how you have come to accept these definitions?
                  I believe Dioletic's view is the one with which I agree and it comes from the passage in which the phrase is used. The Pharisees had just witnessed a miracle from God through Jesus and they attributed it to Satan rather than God. This sin is unforgivable because it speaks to the condition of the heart. Such a heart is so hardened against the truth, it will never accept that Jesus is the Messiah no matter how much evidence God presents.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cloudburst View Post
                    Azheis;

                    How, then, does one inherit this seed of the devil?

                    I was going to remark that one does not inherit and then I started thinking …. Actually that is a very good choice of words; lineage can have a great bearing with some in the satanic and occult realm. And although I don’t know much about it, I had an understanding there was a bloodline “the line of Lucifer” as I recall that was spoken of……… maybe someone else knows more about this. I do not believe this is related to “decedents of Cain”which was more of an illuminati thing.

                    Anyhow being born of the seed of the serpent is a deliberate action that is taken with full knowledge of what they are doing, just as that is when we accept Christ as our savior. You are giving over your life to your father the devil and he is now your lord. ….how exactly it works I couldn’t tell you anymore than I could tell you how we become born of Gods seed but there is something about the eyes of those who are of seed that is/was very different form those of us who just denounced God Jesus and everything Christian or religious.
                    One other thing you cannot be born of God, and of the devil, two spiritual seeds cannot occupy the same, so anybody who is born of the devils seed was never born again of the incorruptible seed of God
                    It’s been a long time, and most of that stuff I hardly ever think about, but I can still spot those of seed to this day…. They are very different from those just possessed ….I just know. I am sure it’s in part due to my walking by the spirit, but also in combination of knowing what I know.
                    I don’t want to give the impression they are all over the place ….that’s not the case, but they are around …..and every time I encounter one I always confront them …partly just to know if I am right, and partly just to let them know that their end is coming ……

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                    God Bless
                    azheis

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                    • #11
                      The Greek word means to "villanize" or attribute an act of God to an act of the devil.

                      Look at what just happened in the chapter. You simply cannot get "willful rejection of Jesus" out of that text. The only way to do so is to start off with where you want to go and then twist your way there...

                      βλασφημέω
                      blasphēmeō
                      1) to speak reproachfully, rail at, revile, calumniate, blaspheme
                      2) to be evil spoken of, reviled, railed at
                      For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived? ~ Deuteronomy 5:26

                      If you're not prepared to risk your very life for your "enemy" you have no right to speak to him of love. ~ Daughter

                      Many say they are called... but I am pretty convinced that with many of them it was the wrong number. ~ Project Peter

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                      • #12
                        Here’s some information about blasphemy and the “unpardonable sin” you might find interesting:

                        Matthew 12:22-45

                        Using the Gospel of Matthew as a base, we see that Jesus began His ministry in chapter 4. From chapter 4 until chapter 12, Christ is seen going around Israel proclaiming the Kingdom and preaching the gospel of the Kingdom. He performs many miracles, and the purpose of each of these miracles between chapters 4 and 12 is to authenticate His person and His message. They are signs to force the nation of Israel to come to a decision regarding: (1) His person – that He is the Messiah; and, (2) His message – the gospel of the Kingdom. But, then, in Matthew 12, the whole purpose of His miracles and His ministry will undergo a radical change. The rejection of His Messiahship is about to occur.

                        In Matthew 12:22-29, we read:

                        22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a demon, blind and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the dumb man spake and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed, and said, Can this be the son of David? 24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This man doth not cast out demons, but by Beelzebub the prince of the demons. 25 And knowing their thoughts he said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26 and if Satan casteth out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand? 27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges. 28 But if I by the Spirit of God cast out demons, then is the kingdom of God come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter into the house of the strong man, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

                        As we stated earlier, the purpose of the miracles of Jesus was to authenticate to the nation His person and His message. Within Judaism were also exorcists who exorcised demons (v. 27). But in Jewish exorcism, one had to communicate with a demon in order to find out its name and then use that name to cast out the demon. But in the case here, where the demon caused the person to become dumb, Jewish exorcism was of no avail. Communication with the demon was rendered impossible. But Jewish theology taught that when the Messiah came, He would be able to cast out even that kind of demon.

                        Indeed, in verse 22 of the above passage, Christ was able to exorcise that kind of demon.

                        In verse 23, this caused the people to begin asking the question, “Can Jesus really be the Messiah?” This was one of the key purposes of this miracle, that they might see that He was indeed the foretold Son of David. The people, however, were not willing to judge His person by themselves but were looking to their religious leaders, the Pharisees, to come up with some kind of public statement or judgment concerning Jesus. They were looking to the Pharisees to conclude either that He was the Messiah or that He was not. But if He was not the Messiah, the Pharisees needed to offer some kind of alternative explanation as to how He was able to perform these many miracles.

                        In verse 24, we find that the Pharisees chose the latter course. They refused to accept Jesus as the Messiah, because He did not fit the Pharisaic “mold” or idea of what Messiah was supposed to say and do. Their alternative as to how He was performing His miracles was to say that He Himself was demon-possessed by Beelzebub. This, then, becomes the basis of the rejection of the Messiahship of Jesus. This is the “leaven of the Pharisees,” the false teaching about which Jesus would warn His disciples. They were to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, i.e., the claim that Jesus was not the Messiah but rather that He was demon-possessed. It was on these grounds that the Pharisees rejected the Messiahship of Christ.

                        In verses 25-29, Messiah responded to this accusation by telling them that their statement could not be true, as it would mean that Satan’s kingdom was divided against itself.

                        In verses 30-37, Jesus pronounced judgment on the generation of that day. Verses 30-32 read:

                        30 He that is not with me is against me, and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. 31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.

                        This is a warning from Jesus that they are treading on very dangerous ground. He says that blaspheming against Him, the “Son of man”, can be forgiven, but if they blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, they will have crossed the line. LOTS of people find this confusing, but I think we can find a very reasonable and Biblically sound explanation for this statement.

                        We must be very clear as to what the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is. It is the unpardonable sin which was committed by “that generation” of Israel in Jesus’ day. It did NOT involve the denial of Jesus’ Messiahship while He was physically present on this earth on the grounds that He was demon-possessed. This was “speaking a word against the Son of man”, to use Jesus’ own words. Jesus differentiates between that and “blasphemy against the Spirit”. So where does “blasphemy against the Spirit” fit in?

                        To find the answer, we must go to the book of Acts, specifically Chapters 2 & 7. In chapter 2, we see the famous story of the Holy Spirit coming on the apostles and the resultant speaking in tongues, etc. This was followed in chapters 3-6 by story after story of the Holy Spirit’s testimony to Israel concerning Jesus’ Messiahship. Time and time again miracles occurred as well as radically changed behavior, both in the general group of believers as well as in the apostles themselves, all of which served as testimony to Israel regarding the true Messiahship of Jesus. This was all testimony that came from the Holy Spirit, via the apostles. Then we get to the moment where the line was crossed at Acts 6:8-7:60, the false accusation, trial, and stoning to death of Stephen. Look at this excerpt from Stephen’s testimony before the Sanhedrin:

                        Acts 7:51-53 - “”You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit! Was there ever a prophet your ancestors did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him— you who have received the law that was given through angels but have not obeyed it.”

                        By their subsequent stoning Stephen to death, they have now completed the “blasphemy against the Spirit”. And three things now happen at this point that are critical to this discussion.

                        Acts 8:1-2 - “Saul approved of their killing him (Stephen). On that day a great persecution broke out against the church in Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria. 2 Godly men buried Stephen and mourned deeply for him. 3 But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off both men and women and put them in prison.

                        1. Saul, later to be Paul of course, enters the picture.
                        2. The Church is scattered, being forcibly moved on to Phase 2 of the Great Commission.
                        3. The identity of the group of believers is here confirmed by the Scriptures as “The Church”.

                        Up until this point, the possibility may have still been open that Israel could claim their earthly kingdom under Christ’s leadership. But now, they have committed the “unpardonable sin” and rejected the testimony of the Holy Spirit as presented in Acts 2-7, concluding with the testimony of Stephen. When they stoned Stephen, they signed their own death warrants as the viable corporate nation of Israel, not as individuals. (If they had signed their death warrants as individuals, then Saul could not have been saved and become Paul since he played a key role in the murder of Stephen.)

                        At this point we should look at what Jesus had to say about this “blasphemy against the Spirit”. This sin would be considered unpardonable, requiring judgment. It is a sin that cannot be committed by individuals today. It was a national sin committed by the generation of Jesus’ day; and for that generation, that sin was unpardonable. This did not mean that individual members of that generation could not be saved, for many were saved. It did, however, mean that nothing they could do would avert the coming destruction of Jerusalem once that unpardonable sin was committed. It was a done deal, signed, sealed, and delivered, do not pass go, do not collect $200.00.

                        Rejection of His Messiahship, then, was the unpardonable sin. Judgment was set, and there was no way of alleviating that judgment. It was a judgment that was to be fulfilled in the year A.D. 70.

                        In Matthew 12:33-37, Messiah emphasized that there was no middle ground in the decision that had been declared regarding His Messiahship. Finally, Jesus tells that generation of Israel that they would be condemned by their own words, saying:

                        37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

                        We then see later on in Matthew 16 that Jesus is already planning on switching to a new entity: ”On this rock I will build my church...” Not “might” build or even “probably” build, but “will” build. It’s already a done deal. This is because God, in His knowledge of all things past, present, and future, knew that, even though He gave Israel another chance in Acts 2-6, they would reject it and He would wind up turning to the Gentiles.

                        Consider this: In Matthew 23 we find Christ’s denunciation of the Scribes and Pharisees, the Jewish leadership of that day, for leading the nation in the rejection of His Messiahship:

                        O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that killeth the prophets, and stoneth them that are sent unto her! (Notice the similarity with Stephen’s testimony in Acts 7:52.) How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house (the Temple) is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

                        Speaking to the Jewish leadership, Christ reiterates His original desire to gather them if they would only accept Him. But due to their rejection of His Messiahship, they will be scattered instead of gathered. Their house, the Jewish Temple, will be destroyed with nothing remaining. He then declares that they will not see Him again until they say, “Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord”. This is a messianic greeting, and it will signify their acceptance of the Messiahship of Jesus, which will happen at the time of the 2nd Coming.

                        Messiah will not return until the Jews and the Jewish leaders ask Him to come back. For just as the Jewish leaders led the nation to the rejection of His Messiahship, they must someday lead the nation to the acceptance of that very same fact.

                        We see this in Hosea 6:1–3

                        Come, let us return to the LORD. He has torn us to pieces but he will heal us; he has injured us but he will bind up our wounds. After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. Let us acknowledge the LORD; let us press on to acknowledge him. As surely as the sun rises, he will appear; he will come to us like the winter rains, like the spring rains that water the earth.
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                        When the plain sense of Scripture make sense, seek no other sense.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cloudburst View Post
                          Mt. 12:31 Therefore I say to you every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men

                          Most of the Bible teachers that I respect and whose doctrine I agree with define this as the willful rejection of Jesus Christ. Other passages seem to indicate this as well, such as Heb. 10:26-29.

                          So, if this is the definition of blasphemy....the willful rejection of Jesus Christ.....wouldn't this, then, apply only to those who have actually heard the Gospel; after all, one cannot reject something that he has no knowledge of.

                          So, then, what of people who die without hearing the Gospel? If they die without Jesus because they have never heard of Him, and not because they have rejected Him (blasphemy), do you suppose that there is some allowance in God's grace that would cover him, and save his soul? After all, that person will not have committed the unforgivable sin.

                          But then, the Bible says that a person must be born-again to enter Heaven, which means that if a person dies without Christ, that person will not enter Heaven. If everyone who dies without accepting Jesus (whether they have heard about him or not) is condemned, then the only other alternative is that each and every person who lives, or has ever lived, will get a chance to accept or reject Christ.

                          This does not seem unplausible to me. I've heard many stories of people who were earnestly seeking God, then God sent a missionary to tell them of Jesus Christ.

                          Again, the Bibel says that the only unforgivable sin is willful rejection of Jesus Christ....not dying in ignorance of Him. If we are to believe this, then we must also believe that there is no one who will die without haviing known about Jesus in some way, shape, or form.

                          What do you guys think?
                          There is no sin that man can do that God will not forgive.
                          The blasphemey of the Holy Spirit was a national sin not a personal sin.
                          It could only be committed by the religious leaders of Israel while the Messiah was still on the earth offering the millenial kingdom to them.
                          They stated that Jesus worked his miracles by the prince of devils beelzebub.
                          This set in motion the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD, and nothing could change it.
                          That was the unpardonable sin.
                          This teaching that you always had to be afraid you committed the unpardonable sin and didn't know it, always keeps your spiritual life in doubt.
                          A person who is worried about the unpardonable sin has never committed it.
                          God is greater than your sins.
                          When you believe the gospel, Jesus paid the price in full for every sin you will ever commit.
                          There are some denominations who teach that your sins are forgiven up until the time you are saved and then you are on your own and you need to keep yourself saved by your works after your salvation.
                          The fear of losing your salvation and committing the unpardonable sin is part of the same package.
                          Thanks for letting me respond
                          Randy

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cloudburst View Post
                            Mt. 12:31 Therefore I say to you every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men

                            Most of the Bible teachers that I respect and whose doctrine I agree with define this as the willful rejection of Jesus Christ. Other passages seem to indicate this as well, such as Heb. 10:26-29.

                            So, if this is the definition of blasphemy....the willful rejection of Jesus Christ.....wouldn't this, then, apply only to those who have actually heard the Gospel; after all, one cannot reject something that he has no knowledge of.

                            So, then, what of people who die without hearing the Gospel? If they die without Jesus because they have never heard of Him, and not because they have rejected Him (blasphemy), do you suppose that there is some allowance in God's grace that would cover him, and save his soul? After all, that person will not have committed the unforgivable sin.

                            But then, the Bible says that a person must be born-again to enter Heaven, which means that if a person dies without Christ, that person will not enter Heaven. If everyone who dies without accepting Jesus (whether they have heard about him or not) is condemned, then the only other alternative is that each and every person who lives, or has ever lived, will get a chance to accept or reject Christ.

                            This does not seem unplausible to me. I've heard many stories of people who were earnestly seeking God, then God sent a missionary to tell them of Jesus Christ.

                            Again, the Bibel says that the only unforgivable sin is willful rejection of Jesus Christ....not dying in ignorance of Him. If we are to believe this, then we must also believe that there is no one who will die without haviing known about Jesus in some way, shape, or form.

                            What do you guys think?
                            Imagine for a moment that blasphemy is willfully rejecting Christ. Who then could be saved? Doesn't everyone reject Christ prior to salvation. Even Paul speaks of being a blasphemer prior to salvation, but says he was forgiven because he did it in ignorance and unbelief.

                            1Ti 1:13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

                            I too agree with Diolectic. The blasphemy that will not be forgiven was that committed by the Pharisee's when they attributed the miracles of God to the devil.

                            Mt 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

                            Many Blessings,
                            RW

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                            • #15
                              It's already been correctly pointed out what the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is, but I wanted to quote the passage and point it out using the scripture itself.

                              22Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?
                              24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
                              25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
                              26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
                              27And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
                              28But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
                              29Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
                              30He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
                              31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

                              So, a demon possessed man was brought to Jesus and Jesus cast the demon out and healed him. The Pharisees wrongly accused Jesus of casting the demon out by the power of Beelzebub, which is a name for the devil, Satan. But Jesus clarified that He cast out the demon by the power of the Spirit of God. So, the Pharisees blasphemed against the Holy Spirit by attributing work performed by the Spirit of God to Beelzebub (Satan) instead. Therefore, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit has to do with attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan or someone else instead.

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