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    Part of my trilogy of poll questions today - the 1st being Does God know our Thoughts. the 2nd Does Satan know our Thoughts.... the next one and I might say be a bit more interesting poll -- If God knows our thoughts, then does God also bring influence to our thoughts.

    For the purpose of keeping the poll simple, the same three responses are the choices... yes, no, or I don't know.
    22
    Yes
    95.45%
    21
    No
    4.55%
    1
    I don't know
    0.00%
    0
    "Enter by the Narrow Gate...
    Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way...
    ... there are few who find it."


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    * All Scripture when quoted is taken from:

    The New American Standard Bible®,
    Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973,
    1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation
    Used by permission." (www.Lockman.org)

    Italics, bold, color and/or underline are added for emphasis


  • #2
    Can you defind influence?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Beckrl View Post
      Can you defind influence?
      How about anything like, given, persuaded, changed one's mind/heart... or by scripture something like....

      Matthew 16:13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, "Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets." 15 He *said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
      "Enter by the Narrow Gate...
      Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way...
      ... there are few who find it."


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      * All Scripture when quoted is taken from:

      The New American Standard Bible®,
      Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973,
      1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation
      Used by permission." (www.Lockman.org)

      Italics, bold, color and/or underline are added for emphasis

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      • #4
        Hi RBG...

        good post...

        As far as God 'knowing' our thoughts and influencing them.... I would say 'yes'...

        as David says... 'thou desirest Truth in that 'inward part'.. that innner man.. where our 'thoughts, heart intent and spirit come together... and in that 'inward part'... thou shalt make me to 'know wisdom'..

        I look back the Last Supper.. when Jesus 'knew' who would betray Him.. and He spoke to Judas...

        what you are going to to, thou doest quickly....

        God 'knew' what Judas was up to.. being influenced and possessed by the devil himself...

        I believe He not only was talking to Judas.. but He was speaking to Satan directly.... as satan moved Judas and had put into Judas heart to betray Jesus...

        we live in a supernatural playing field.. this is the 'world' as it is...

        as far as Satan knowing a Born Again Chrisitans thoughts?

        he knows the weakness of a Geunine Chrisitan.. because he once controlled and manipulated that person prior to Jesus SAving them.... that Inward Part... I don't believe satan 'knows' directly... but one must be careful as to what one is thinking and possessing. and revealing them......especially when it comes to the 'things of God'.. that are divinely inspired and the 'spriitual man' percieves them...

        its like throwing your pearls before swine.. want to avoid that... because others will turn and rend you for them..because they do not understand or percieve the spiritual things of God as they are revealed thru the Holy Ghost...

        if one presents his/her thoughts outwardly.. either thru actions or words.. then satan knows right well what your up to.. he knows...

        like I said, we live in a supernatural playing field....our words and actions mean alot.... and they usually are a direct result of our thought process... whether fleshly inspired or Divinely Inspired by God Himself..
        Many appear Righteous and Just because they say 'yes' to Jesus Christ , yet they don't do His Will.
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        Verily I say unto thee, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.
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        The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying. YEA, I have loved thee with an everlasting love; therefore with LOVINGKINDESS have I DRAWN THEE.
        Jeremiah 31:3

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        • #5
          The Scriptures gives abundant evidence that God can and does influence our thoughts. Consider the following passages:

          Php 2:12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling,
          Php 2:13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

          Exo 4:21 And the LORD said to Moses, "When you go back to Egypt, see that you do before Pharaoh all the miracles that I have put in your power. But I will harden his heart, so that he will not let the people go.

          Exo 11:2 Speak now in the hearing of the people, that they ask, every man of his neighbor and every woman of her neighbor, for silver and gold jewelry."
          Exo 11:3 And the LORD gave the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians. Moreover, the man Moses was very great in the land of Egypt, in the sight of Pharaoh's servants and in the sight of the people.

          Deu 2:30 But Sihon the king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him, for the LORD your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might give him into your hand, as he is this day.

          Jos 11:20 For it was the LORD's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be devoted to destruction and should receive no mercy but be destroyed, just as the LORD commanded Moses.

          Psa 105:23 Then Israel came to Egypt; Jacob sojourned in the land of Ham.
          Psa 105:24 And the LORD made his people very fruitful and made them stronger than their foes.
          Psa 105:25 He turned their hearts to hate his people, to deal craftily with his servants.

          Isa 6:10 Make the heart of this people dull, and their ears heavy, and blind their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed."

          Isa 63:17 O LORD, why do you make us wander from your ways and harden our heart, so that we fear you not? Return for the sake of your servants, the tribes of your heritage.

          2Th 2:11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false...
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          • #6
            God told me to vote "no".

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            • #7
              God influences our thoughts when we read and cogitate upon His word. Ps 119 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his ways? By taking heed according to thy word...Thy word have I hidden in my heart that I might not sin against thee. 9 & 11

              For the cause of Christ
              Roger

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              • #8
                I voted "yes", but I believe that most often we must be receptive to His influence; in other words, He usually does not force His will upon people.

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                • #9
                  Of course I voted yes.
                  If we read the Christian Manifesto, the letter to the Romans, the picture is very clear. In Romans 1:19 we learn that even those that deny Him are, indeed, influenced by Him.

                  When you come right down to it the servant of God, the Christian, just by taking the name, is influenced by by God. Inversely, so is the Atheist. The very moment he or she denies God they admit having been influenced by God. When we write the date on a letter, that date is suffixed with ad., all dates before the zero day are counted back from Christ/God. It is not even possible to live without the influence of God. Without Him there is no earth to live on, no air to breath, no dirt to even create man with. That we live is the influence of God.

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                  • #10
                    I voted "yes." I've "seen" this happen a number of times, and although experience is no standard for truth, I'd like to share it.

                    There's been 2 occassions now in recent times where I've been talking to friends who're unsaved. As we were conversing I was silently praying for the Lord to open a way for me to share the Gospel with them. Out of nowhere they'd start to open up and talk about some problems they were having, very personal stuff which they normally won't talk about, and the way will be open for me to share the Gospel with them. And Scripture also affirms that God does influence our thoughts.
                    Tit 3:2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.

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                    • #11
                      He influenced Saul/Paul.
                      If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.

                      Andrew_no_one




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                      • #12
                        I'm a bit suprise at the overwelming response thus far being that God can influence one's thoughts, for I was sure that some would say not so based on 'free will'...
                        "Enter by the Narrow Gate...
                        Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way...
                        ... there are few who find it."


                        -----------------------------------------------

                        * All Scripture when quoted is taken from:

                        The New American Standard Bible®,
                        Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973,
                        1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation
                        Used by permission." (www.Lockman.org)

                        Italics, bold, color and/or underline are added for emphasis

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Redeemed by Grace View Post
                          I'm a bit suprise at the overwelming response thus far being that God can influence one's thoughts, for I was sure that some would say not so based on 'free will'...
                          Well, being able to "influence" thoughts is not the same as God programming someone to think a certain way with no choice to act any other way. At the end of the day, someone can influence you but the final decision is still up to you.

                          If this were not true, then praying for someone to come to saving faith or for situations to change based on people's behaviours changing would be pointless don't you think?
                          Tit 3:2 to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ThyWordIsTruth View Post
                            Well, being able to "influence" thoughts is not the same as God programming someone to think a certain way with no choice to act any other way. At the end of the day, someone can influence you but the final decision is still up to you.

                            If this were not true, then praying for someone to come to saving faith or for situations to change based on people's behaviours changing would be pointless don't you think?
                            Howdy...

                            If you would, please define what you mean by influence then, so as we are all together... I used Matthew 16:13, wheras God gave Peter both words and understanding per Jesus' words
                            "Enter by the Narrow Gate...
                            Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way...
                            ... there are few who find it."


                            -----------------------------------------------

                            * All Scripture when quoted is taken from:

                            The New American Standard Bible®,
                            Copyright © 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973,
                            1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation
                            Used by permission." (www.Lockman.org)

                            Italics, bold, color and/or underline are added for emphasis

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Redeemed by Grace View Post
                              Howdy...

                              If you would, please define what you mean by influence then, so as we are all together... I used Matthew 16:13, wheras God gave Peter both words and understanding per Jesus' words

                              "Influence" is not "control". Influence is more of a prompting (suggesting) in some way for a desired result or decision. At least in the way we have come to use the term, to say one has influence over another means that one's input and suggestions about a situation carry a certain amount of weight (and much more so than most other people). Most of us do not think of "influence" as describing "robot" like control. Influence means that we weigh a certain source of information greater than another, but in the end we still decide what to believe or how to act.

                              As far as Matthew 16:13-17, I would suggest that Peter was not a robot. Both the Spirit and the Father (and even Jesus' own words and actions) were indicating that Jesus was the Christ, and Peter analyzed that input and he accepted what they were indicating about Jesus. They were not controlling Peter like some puppet on a string.

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