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    ark of the covenant, Moses staff, holy grail, true cross, veil of veronica, spear of destiny, etc etc

    Do these things exist and do they have Power?

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    Those are Roman Catholic things. They don't mean anything to me as it is not the 'things' that have power. It is God! I believe they are idols to those who seek power from them. Now the ark of the covenant would be an interesting find archaeologically but still it's not meant for us to worship IT.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Fenris View Post
      ark of the covenant, Moses staff, holy grail, true cross, veil of veronica, spear of destiny, etc etc
      Ark of the Covenant - Not a Catholic "thing"

      Moses staff - Not a Catholic "thing"

      Christian things = holy grail, true cross, veil of veronica, spear of destiny, etc etc

      Even Paul had a prayer cloth that he prayed over

      Pwer - No they don't in and of themseleves

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Fenris View Post
        ark of the covenant, Moses staff,
        that you should know....
        holy grail, true cross, veil of veronica, spear of destiny, etc etc

        Do these things exist and do they have Power?
        don't know anything about that .... like S2S says... they are RC 'thingys'
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        • #5
          I like to think that the ark and the holy grail still exist (don't know much about the others). I agree they don't have power in and of themselves though. As for the spear of destiny, just watch Constantine.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ACCM View Post
            that you should know.... don't know anything about that .... like S2S says... they are RC 'thingys'
            How is the holy grail a 'Catholic thing'?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by BrckBrln View Post
              How is the holy grail a 'Catholic thing'?
              The 'thing' part! Of course they are historical things but I don't think the 'things' have any power as many RCs do. Do you get my meaning now?
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              • #8
                So if someone bar-b-qued at Church would that be a Holy Grill?

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                • #9
                  The first two probably still exist, though we don't know where they are and I see no reason to believe they have intrinsic power within them.

                  The latter are just silly.

                  There is no reason the Roman government would have found the Cross of any importance and most likely reused it. Same with the spear. As for the grail it too was most likely used again and again, eventually being cast into obscurity.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by historyb View Post
                    So if someone bar-b-qued at Church would that be a Holy Grill?
                    Now THAT would likely get a bunch of Protestants there!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BrckBrln View Post
                      How is the holy grail a 'Catholic thing'?
                      Because it's nothing more than a cup that Christ used. Only reason it's called the "Holy Grail" is because the Catholics say so.

                      Why isn't there a "Holy Plate" that the bread was served on or a "Holy bowl" that Jesus dipped the bread in, or the "Holy Pillow" that he was reclining on that night...

                      There is no "Holy Grail" It's a Catholic invention.

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                      • #12
                        Wow, I didn't know that holy relics was a RC thing. I thought they were a Christian thing. But the opinions here are pretty much all the same.

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                        • #13
                          veil of veronica
                          The whole Veronica narrative was an extra-biblical addition to the passion story made by the Catholic church, although it appeared in the Passion of the Christ.

                          Wow, I didn't know that holy relics was a RC thing.
                          Pretty much. Also in Eastern Orthodox churches as well.

                          This is really interesting. There is a rating system of relics in the RCC.

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relic

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                          • #14
                            I thought the holy grail was a Monty Python thing.
                            The whole praying to and venerating relics is a Catholic thing.
                            I don't think any other Christian groups as a whole are into that nonsense.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BrckBrln View Post
                              How is the holy grail a 'Catholic thing'?
                              I have no cooking clue what that is
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