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    It is understood that every man is tempted, but what does it mean when it says "When lust has conceived"?

    When does temptation become sin?

    Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

    Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

    God bless you!

    Firstfruits

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    Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

    Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
    It is understood that every man is tempted, but what does it mean when it says "When lust has conceived"?

    When does temptation become sin?
    It conceives once it has produced fruit in your body.

    It becomes sin when you give into it.
    This IGNORE button is by far one of the most useful tools I've used to keep my peace while navigating through some of the madness.

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    • #3
      Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

      Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
      It is understood that every man is tempted, but what does it mean when it says "When lust has conceived"?

      When does temptation become sin?

      Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

      Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

      God bless you!

      Firstfruits
      Conception takes place when a person has entered into agreement with temptation and made a commitment toward bringing it to action. The same process can be seen in Judas in John 13:2 and John 13:27.

      In John 13:2, Satan puts into the heart of Judas the things he would do. In verse 27, Satan now actually enters Judas' heart, and he made a commitment to carrying out the action of betraying Jesus. What began as mere thoughts implanted by Satan turned into agreement with those thoughts which brought forth action. We also see in Acts 5 that Peter proclaims to Ananias that Satan had filled his heart. I believe it was the same process as with Judas. I believe Satan tempted Ananias with thoughts of trying to deceive the Holy Spirit, and when Ananias came into agreement with these thoughts, Satan entered his heart and he was now committed toward bringing this conceived desire to outright sin.
      "What you do does not define who you are; it's who you are that defines what you do."

      -- Dr. Neil T. Anderson

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        Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

        Originally posted by -SEEKING- View Post
        It conceives once it has produced fruit in your body.

        It becomes sin when you give into it.
        Fruit doesn't come until after conception. The desire is conceived first, and then it brings forth the fruit of sin.
        "What you do does not define who you are; it's who you are that defines what you do."

        -- Dr. Neil T. Anderson

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        • #5
          Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

          Originally posted by VerticalReality View Post
          Conception takes place when a person has entered into agreement with temptation and made a commitment toward bringing it to action. The same process can be seen in Judas in John 13:2 and John 13:27.

          In John 13:2, Satan puts into the heart of Judas the things he would do. In verse 27, Satan now actually enters Judas' heart, and he made a commitment to carrying out the action of betraying Jesus. What began as mere thoughts implanted by Satan turned into agreement with those thoughts which brought forth action. We also see in Acts 5 that Peter proclaims to Ananias that Satan had filled his heart. I believe it was the same process as with Judas. I believe Satan tempted Ananias with thoughts of trying to deceive the Holy Spirit, and when Ananias came into agreement with these thoughts, Satan entered his heart and he was now committed toward bringing this conceived desire to outright sin.
          So with regards to the following scripture although temptation can lead to sin we do not have to yeid to it?

          Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

          Firstfruits

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            Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

            Originally posted by -SEEKING- View Post
            It conceives once it has produced fruit in your body.

            It becomes sin when you give into it.
            If you have only been tempted but not yielded, then sin has not been commited is that right?

            Firstfruits

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              Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

              Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
              So with regards to the following scripture although temptation can lead to sin we do not have to yeid to it?

              Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

              Firstfruits
              No, we don't have to yield. In fact, we are commanded to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Every sin if first preceded by thought. When thought is met with agreement (Conception), a commitment to bring forth sin has been made.
              "What you do does not define who you are; it's who you are that defines what you do."

              -- Dr. Neil T. Anderson

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              • #8
                Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                "As the plant springs from, and could not be without, the seed, so every act of a man springs from the hidden seeds of thought, and could not have appeared without them"

                "Act is the blossom of thought"

                James Allen.
                If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.

                Andrew_no_one




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                • #9
                  Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                  Originally posted by VerticalReality View Post
                  No, we don't have to yield. In fact, we are commanded to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Every sin is first preceded by thought. When thought is met with agreement (Conception), a commitment to bring forth sin has been made.
                  Thanks VR,

                  God bless you!

                  Firstfruits

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                  • #10
                    Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                    Originally posted by The Mighty Sword View Post
                    "As the plant springs from, and could not be without, the seed, so every act of a man springs from the hidden seeds of thought, and could not have appeared without them"

                    "Act is the blossom of thought"

                    James Allen.
                    Are you saying that once we are tempted we have sinned? If not, please explain what you mean.

                    Thank you,

                    Firstfruits

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                    • #11
                      Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                      The sin is already in us when the thought of sin is conceived.

                      Proverbs 23:7 For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:............
                      If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.

                      Andrew_no_one




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                        Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                        Originally posted by The Mighty Sword View Post
                        The sin is already in us when the thought of sin is conceived.
                        Do we not have to be tempted before the thought can be conceived? If there is no temptation how can sin come forth?

                        Firstfruits

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                          Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                          Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
                          Do we not have to be tempted before the thought can be conceived? If there is no temptation how can sin come forth?

                          Firstfruits
                          No, satan has studied man for many years and knows our weakness he merely tempts us to act on them.
                          If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.

                          Andrew_no_one




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                            Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                            Originally posted by The Mighty Sword View Post
                            No, satan has studied man for many years and knows our weakness he merely tempts us to act on them.
                            But if we do not act on those thoughts, have we sinned?

                            Every man is tempted.

                            Firstfruits

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                              Re: Every Man Is Tempted!!!!

                              Originally posted by Firstfruits View Post
                              But if we do not act on them those thoughts, have we sinned?

                              Firstfruits
                              Yes, Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

                              And adultery is a sin.
                              If Satan can keep us busy swinging our swords at one another, there is no hope of a united attack on the kingdom of darkness. KJV, NIV, ESV or ABCDEFG; there is no time to bicker over such things. We'll devour each other if allowed to continue. We should grab the marching orders written in the way we best understand and get to work.

                              Andrew_no_one




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