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  • rejoice44
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Knight Templar View Post
    From a historical, geological standpoint, yes, it is "fictional". Obviously, a God who is omnipotent and omniscient does not "repent" or regret any of His own actions, as that would be mean that such God is either not omnipotent or that he is not omniscient.
    Here are the words of Jesus, and you are flatly denying them. "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark." (Matthew 24:38) You do not believe in Jesus, or am I missing something?

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  • Fenris
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by rejoice44 View Post
    His will is that none be lost, and that all come to a saving knowledge of the Messiah.
    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's a wrap, folks.

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  • rejoice44
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Fenris View Post
    Carry out His will, as defined in the bible.
    His will is that none be lost, and that all come to a saving knowledge of the Messiah.

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  • Adstars
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Fenris View Post
    He told me to hang in there.
    Hang in where? Where do you think "there" is?


    All Praise The Ancient Of Days

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  • Fenris
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by rejoice44 View Post
    To hang in there and then what?
    Carry out His will, as defined in the bible.

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  • rejoice44
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Fenris View Post
    He told me to hang in there.
    To hang in there and then what?

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  • Fenris
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by rejoice44 View Post
    Well he filled me with the presence of his goodness and the knowledge that I could trust him.
    That's awesome.

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  • rejoice44
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Fenris View Post
    He told me to hang in there.
    Well he filled me with the presence of his goodness and the knowledge that I could trust him.

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  • Fenris
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by rejoice44 View Post
    And what did God answer you?
    He told me to hang in there.

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  • rejoice44
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Fenris View Post
    What a coincidence! Me too!! is that amazing or what?
    And what did God answer you?

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  • Fenris
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by rejoice44 View Post
    Because when I cried out to God he answered me in my inner being in a way that logic could not answer.
    What a coincidence! Me too!! is that amazing or what?

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  • rejoice44
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Fenris View Post
    Lol. That could be said of anyone by any faith. Why are you not Muslim, or Hindu, or Jewish, or Animist? Cognitive dissonance!
    Because when I cried out to God he answered me in my inner being in a way that logic could not answer.

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  • nzyr
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Knight Templar View Post
    That does not follow. People wrote about, talked about, and practiced morality long before the Bible came into being. And the Bible itself is not always very moral. The argument that the book of Esther must be historically valid in order for the Bible to be true is not logical. Even Paul warned against placing too much importance on "Jewish fables" and "endless geneologies".
    The book of Esther isn't a Jewish fable. It's about how a holocaust was averted.


    Originally posted by Knight Templar View Post
    Technically, even that doesn't follow. Plenty of people throughout history have believed in God while rejecting the Bible: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Voltaire, and 50 million Hindus, are just a few examples. Of course I personally believe in the Gospel message, but if my belief in it were false, that doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't a God. And it certainly wouldn't mean that there isn't a God simply if it was found that the Book of Esther is a fictional account (again, Esther is not even a religious book, it's a secular one, and doesn't even mention God).
    It doesn't mention God. So what? Who are you to say which books are valid and which are not? Esther is a very important book. It it wasn't it wouldn't be in our bibles.

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  • Fenris
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by nzyr View Post
    The book of Esther is not a parable.
    I am inclined to agree with you, but what if it was? Would it have no value?

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  • nzyr
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    Re: The book of Esther. Based on historical fact or fiction?

    Originally posted by Fenris View Post
    If Jesus told a parable, and someone wrote it down, would it not be a holy text? Even though it isn't strictly true?
    The book of Esther is not a parable.

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