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    I hope I have the correct form. if not I apologize. The link below contains articles on the Market Driven Church Ministry and a biblical rebuttal to these worldly philosophies.

    I have benefited greatly from these articles and I hope that you do as well. I suggest you print them off.

    God bless

    http://www.cerm.info/bible_studies/T...Ministry_1.pdf

    http://www.cerm.info/bible_studies/T...Ministry_2.pdf

  • #2
    Originally posted by poochie View Post
    I hope I have the correct form. if not I apologize. The link below contains articles on the Market Driven Church Ministry and a biblical rebuttal to these worldly philosophies.

    I have benefited greatly from these articles and I hope that you do as well. I suggest you print them off.

    God bless

    http://www.cerm.info/bible_studies/T...Ministry_1.pdf

    http://www.cerm.info/bible_studies/T...Ministry_2.pdf
    I've never heard of David Doran (the article is somewhat dated (1996)), but his bibliography looks quite sound.
    ♪ Each day may Christ become clearer, His Cross dearer, Our Hope nearer. ♫

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    • #3
      Money changers in the temple

      This strategy is the foundation of the American commercial gospel enterprise. I think we will get the same response that the moneychangers did when Jesus returns if we don't repent from it.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by The Preacher View Post
        This strategy is the foundation of the American commercial gospel enterprise. I think we will get the same response that the moneychangers did when Jesus returns if we don't repent from it.
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        I agree... You can't 'market' salvation likes its some enterprise or merchandise.. and you can't market the Word as if its some enterprise or business... Thats what they were doing in the Temple.. Jesus ran them out and told them.. My house shall be called a house of prayer.. but you have made it into a den of thieves.. not only the 'temple' with stone but when a Christian begins to do this.. He/she is the 'temple of the Holy Ghost'... the body is. when that happens.. a true believer can expect to be chastised and given the right direction as to the commercialization of the Gospel message and the Word itself..

        Listen to Paul's word...

        For we are not as many, which corrupt the Word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

        corrupt: in the Greek is translated as:

        to be a retailer, to peddle
        2) to make money by selling anything
        a) to get sordid gain by dealing in anything, to do a thing for base gain
        b) to trade in the word of God
        1) to try to get base gain by teaching divine truth
        c) to corrupt, to adulterate
        1) peddlers were in the habit of adulterating their commodities for the sake of gain
        Many appear Righteous and Just because they say 'yes' to Jesus Christ , yet they don't do His Will.
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        Verily I say unto thee, the tax collectors and the prostitutes go into the Kingdom of Heaven before you do.
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        The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying. YEA, I have loved thee with an everlasting love; therefore with LOVINGKINDESS have I DRAWN THEE.
        Jeremiah 31:3

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Preacher View Post
          This strategy is the foundation of the American commercial gospel enterprise. I think we will get the same response that the moneychangers did when Jesus returns if we don't repent from it.
          Well said brother. Amen!!

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          • #6
            There's an excellent book titled The Market Driven Church by Udo Middlemann. Very good read and very on target with what has been said here.

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            • #7
              Interesting article.

              Just another pitfall of the Christless Churchianity that is so prevalent today.

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              • #8
                You know what's really said is how you attribute good solid due diligence in church administration with wordly marketing techniques.
                Amazzin

                Obedience to God is more than a soldier obeying his commander. It is our grateful response to the Lover of our souls.

                CHURCH: Where worship is enjoyed, not endured - Grace is preached, not legalism - And Christ is exalted, not religion!



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by amazzin View Post
                  You know what's really said is how you attribute good solid due diligence in church administration with wordly marketing techniques.

                  But they are the same. There is management, and then there is just marketing scams the church puts on. The church looks at the demographics, tries to reach out to a certain demographic, and so on. How is that any different from the world?

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                  • #10
                    Where are marketing strategies found in the Bible, exactly?

                    It boggles me what our flesh will come up with to gratify itself.

                    Also, I see no account in the New Testament where God was involved in packing buildings full of people. I do, however, see accounts of Him adding to "their number" daily, which is the Church, the called out ones, His Ekklesia, that living, breathing body of His that has nothing to do with stone-and-brick buildings, but is, in itself, a building, a mighty city where the precious stones are people, the New Jerusalem, the Bride adorned for her Husband.

                    What are we building, who are we building for, and according to whose way?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by amazzin View Post
                      You know what's really said is how you attribute good solid due diligence in church administration with wordly marketing techniques.
                      Read the article and you wont regret it.

                      I attend a Bible Preaching Fundamentalist separatist seminary. In one course (one of my easier ones) I had to read both articles, examine the content in detail and answer 20 questions. We are going through all the flaws in the evangelical and charismatic movement and even some issues in the Fundamentalist churches in this course.

                      Read one 350 page plus book and the flaws of the evangelical worship philosophy. Although I disagree with the Fundamentalists on this one, I'll only ask questions with plenty of evidence or keep my POV to my website only.

                      Reading another critique on the Willow Creek movement, and got another one to read after that one is done. Gotta love it...

                      This reading is light compared to reading in a textual Criticism textbook or systematic theology, or hermeneutics. But its well worth it.

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                      • #12
                        It's easy to speak against marketing when we're referring to obviously superficial marketing methods. But in some cases there is a very fine line between marketing and strategic evangelism. As usual, it comes down to motives. If a person truly has a heart to reach people for Jesus Christ, and there method is labeled as marketing by others, I highly doubt God is as disappointed as their peers. We live in a consumer culture and, to some degree, we may need to 'market' for the simple reason that lost people think in terms of a marketplace and consumerism. The key is keeping the content intact.
                        The Matthew Never Knew
                        The Knew Kingdom

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                        • #13
                          Marketers enable authors like Udo Middlemann, Michael Horton and others to sell their books that criticize market-driven Churches. They read monographs, develop catchy titles for them along with eye-catching dust jackets, the authors don't. As long as marketing doesn't supercede the Gospel message, there's no reason to despise it or completely reject it. It has a measure of God-given usefulness. Without marketing, we wouldn't be familiar with most of the resources available to us.

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                          • #14
                            Can someone give examples of marketing techniques used by the Apostles in spreading the Gospel?

                            I rather see this sort of thing...

                            For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not in wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made void.
                            (1Co 1:17)
                            And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
                            (1Co 2:3-4)


                            ♪ Each day may Christ become clearer, His Cross dearer, Our Hope nearer. ♫

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                            • #15
                              What is really scary to me, is how much they hide this information from us. I'm in the US and this stuff is rarely covered, and if it is, it's brief. A little digging on the internet reveals many pieces of the end time puzzle coming together.
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