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  • Question about time....

    Does the Bible give us an idea how only ago Adam and Eve were created? I was under the impression that it was in the 6,000 year range for some reason.

    Anyway, the other day I pulled up the internet and saw that scientist claimed to have found a 40,000 year old human skull. I found that strange because I have been under the impression that we humans were in the 6,000 year old range.

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    If the genealogies in Scripture are chrono-genealogies with no gaps, then Adam & Eve were created less than 7,000 years ago and the dating methods used by contemporary scientists are inaccurate.
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    • #3
      Instead of simply making outrageous statements and expecting people to believe you, please at least attempt to justify them with accurate sources/evidence.


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      • #4
        Hey now lets not get all testy.

        Anyone else have any opinions on this.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Johndigger View Post
          Instead of simply making outrageous statements and expecting people to believe you, please at least attempt to justify them with accurate sources/evidence.


          JD
          The problem with that statemtent is that even the 'scientific' method involves opinions about how certain things and processes change over time. So, it is really just an educated guess, providing you are willing to accept the assumptions.
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          When they say something... it is about anyone's guess what it is they really mean... but NEVER ask for clarification of their mysterious language... they are often very happy to give it and that's when the discussion goes FREAKY!

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          • #6
            The following link provides two articles based on in-depth biblical research. The articles are "Let the Oceans Speak" and "Biblical Calendar of History."

            http://worldwide.familyradio.org/zus...erature/frame/

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            • #7
              I am moving this over to A&E.

              Please take time to read the rules of that forum before continuing.

              Also, if there is a hint of theistic evolution or that that was the intent, please let me know. Theistic evolution is only allowed in the controvesial forum.

              Thanks, continue on in the A&E way!
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              when His love is received and freely given,
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              will all other things be added unto to you.

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              • #8
                Has anyone ever heard of this: (someone told me it and I have always wondered)

                The level of dust on the moon is more consistant with something that is 7,000 years old rather then millions.

                Also, I wonder why high powered telescopes cant see the flag that was planted there.... Always wondered that. No doubt we did go there... just curious why we never see what we left there.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rchivers View Post
                  Has anyone ever heard of this: (someone told me it and I have always wondered)

                  The level of dust on the moon is more consistant with something that is 7,000 years old rather then millions.

                  Also, I wonder why high powered telescopes cant see the flag that was planted there.... Always wondered that. No doubt we did go there... just curious why we never see what we left there.
                  I too have heard something about this. It was supposed by scientists in the first moon landing that if our solar system were millions of years old then the space module landing on the moon ought to encounter several feet of space dust on the surface of the moon, possibly even deep enough to bury the lunar shuttle. It was a great surprise, which is seldom mentioned, that there was but a mere layer of dusting on the moon's surface. Of course this signaled the truth that our solar system could not possibly be millions of years in age, but this little tidbit of info somehow gets left out of all the scientific journals. I've forgotten how they linked the amount of dust on the surface of the moon to the age of our solar system, but it doesn't surprise me at all that information that could be used to prove a young earth was never really mentioned. This is much like the article in the link I gave earlier about sediment on the ocean floor. This too shows pretty convincing proof for a rather young earth.

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                  • #10
                    My own perspective on this.... We know that God created Adam and Eve. Generally, as Christians we are down with that. Then we often leap to some weird assumptions. We don't take into consideration that Adam and Eve could have been frolicking in the garden for countless centuries or even millenia. There is also no evidence that time has remained constant from that time. In addition to that, I don't think any reliable scientist will say that carbon dating is absolute. Not really.
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                    • #11
                      The moon-dust argument has been proven to NOT be evidence of a young Earth. I myself believe the Earth is less than 7000 years old, but should you guys want to use to disprove suppossedly scientific observations on the age of the Earth then I suggest not using the moon-dust argument. If you guys are really interested in this subject then I suggest you check out the ANSWERS IN GENESIS website. It will answer just about any question you have on this subject. The bottom line is that as far as Origins of the Universe go--the scientific Theory of Evolution is as much based on "faith" as the Christian Genesis account, because the Theory of Evolution is based on assumption after assumption--this includes their dating methods...

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                      • #12
                        Be careful with that thought.

                        To say their basis is placed on assumption after assumption yet we both base our beliefs on faith can get us in a world of stink if you use that thinking to stand against evolution. It is indeed a faith issue. But, only those who are convicted in their heart and causes growth in the soul is the right one.
                        Seek ye FIRST the kingdom.
                        Not second or third, but first.
                        Only when all else pales to God, when He receives all glory,
                        when He is the source of all hope,
                        when His love is received and freely given,
                        holding not to the world but to the promise to come,
                        will all other things be added unto to you.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by threebigrocks View Post
                          Be careful with that thought.

                          To say their basis is placed on assumption after assumption yet we both base our beliefs on faith can get us in a world of stink if you use that thinking to stand against evolution. It is indeed a faith issue. But, only those who are convicted in their heart and causes growth in the soul is the right one.
                          yeah you're right, thank you brother... I do not meant to imply that it is the same kind of Faith and that faith in Christ is only based on assumptions...I'm just trying to say that scientifically speaking--both Creation and the Theory of Evolution are equally unknowable. For us to know scientifically and mathmatically exactly how the Creation of the World happened--as far as timing and all goes--it requires us to know, unknowable measurements. One of the arguments against taking the Genesis account as literal is the idea it is unscientific because it is not falsifiable, but what Evolutionist fail to acknowledge is that their Theory of Evolution is equally non falsifiable, because they base their measurements and predictions on assumed values they can't possibly know--that they have assumed are a fact...So, in return they get back data that is reflective of their assumptions rather than an unbiased scientific observation. Anyway, I thank you for the correction and I hope I explained myself a bit better.


                          Basically--Faith as a Christian understands it is an understanding given by God to discern spiritual truth.

                          Evolutionist in a similar manner assumes that the Theory of Evolution is truth and they base their assumptions and values off of that premise.

                          One is an infallible understanding given by God and the other is a fallible understanding invented by Men.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tHbaGLORY View Post
                            yeah you're right, thank you brother... I do not meant to imply that it is the same kind of Faith and that faith in Christ is only based on assumptions...I'm just trying to say that scientifically speaking--both Creation and the Theory of Evolution are equally unknowable. For us to know scientifically and mathmatically exactly how the Creation of the World happened--as far as timing and all goes--it requires us to know, unknowable measurements. One of the arguments against taking the Genesis account as literal is the idea it is unscientific because it is not falsifiable, but what Evolutionist fail to acknowledge is that their Theory of Evolution is equally non falsifiable, because they base their measurements and predictions on assumed values they can't possibly know--that they have assumed are a fact...So, in return they get back data that is reflective of their assumptions rather than an unbiased scientific observation. Anyway, I thank you for the correction and I hope I explained myself a bit better.


                            Basically--Faith as a Christian understands it is an understanding given by God to discern spiritual truth.

                            Evolutionist in a similar manner assumes that the Theory of Evolution is truth and they base their assumptions and values off of that premise.

                            One is an infallible understanding given by God and the other is a fallible understanding invented by Men.
                            Hence why science and faith can be so difficult to mesh together. Seperately, they do well. I haven't seen that yet, in my place of understanding, how they are. To me, God is behind it all regardless and the truth on all things can be found in Him.
                            Seek ye FIRST the kingdom.
                            Not second or third, but first.
                            Only when all else pales to God, when He receives all glory,
                            when He is the source of all hope,
                            when His love is received and freely given,
                            holding not to the world but to the promise to come,
                            will all other things be added unto to you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RogerW View Post
                              The following link provides two articles based on in-depth biblical research. The articles are "Let the Oceans Speak" and "Biblical Calendar of History."

                              http://worldwide.familyradio.org/zus...erature/frame/
                              I would warn others to be cautious of what may be contained on the above web-site. That site is own by Harold Camping, who in the past falsely predicted Christ's return, in spite of the fact that Scripture says: Matt 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.
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