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  • Deuteronomy 22:5 - Women shouldn't wear pants?

    I notice that Deuteronomy 22:5 is used by some denominations / assemblies to forbid women from wearing pants, I did a thorough study on this verse and found it greatly mistranslated.
    Upon examination this verse can not be used to control how women dress.

    (Deuteronomy 22:5)
    “A woman does not wear1961 that which pertains 3627 to a man,1397, nor does a man put on3847 a woman’s
    garment8071, for whoever does this is an abomination to Yahweh your Elohim.

    Look at the words I’ve underlined

    H1961
    hâyâh
    BDB Definition:
    to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
    STRONGS:
    A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): - beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.
    Looking at all the verses hâyâh is used, wear is not a correct translation, and this verse is
    the only place it is translated as such, none of the other verses even come close to
    meaning wear or put on as in clothing.

    Look how the word means as it is used in The Creation:

    (Genesis 1:2) And the earth was1961 without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.

    (Genesis 1:3) And Elohim said, Let there be1961 light: and there was1961 light.

    (Genesis 1:5) And Elohim called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were1961 the first day.

    (Genesis 1:6) And Elohim said, Let there be1961 a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let1961 it divide the waters from the waters.

    (Genesis 1:7) And Elohim made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was1961 so.

    (Genesis 1:8) And Elohim called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were1961 the second day.

    Also look how that word is used and what it means in it’s other uses in Deuteronomy 22:

    2 “And if your brother is not near you, or if you do not know him, then you shall bring it to your own house, and it shall be1961 with you until your brother seeks it, then you shall return it to him.

    19 and fine him one hundred pieces of silver and give them to the father of the young woman, because he has brought an evil name on a maiden of Yisra’ĕl. And she is to be1961 his wife, he is not allowed to put her away all his days.

    20 “But if the matter is1961 true, that the girl was not found a maiden,

    23 “When a girl who is a maiden is1961 engaged to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her,

    29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl’s father fifty pieces of silver, and she is to be1961 his wife because he has humbled her. He is not allowed to put her away all his days.

    If Yahweh meant this part of the verse to mean wear or put on clothing why wasn’t
    H3847 used like in the 2nd half of the verse?

    H3847
    lâbash / lâbêsh
    BDB Definition:
    to dress, wear, clothe, put on clothing, be clothed
    STRONGS:
    A primitive root; properly wrap around, that is, (by implication) to put on a garment or clothe (oneself, or another), literally or figuratively: - (in) apparel, arm, array (self), clothe (self), come upon, put (on, upon), wear.
    Look at the next underlined word:

    H3627
    kelîy
    BDB Definition:
    1) article, vessel, implement, utensil
    1a) article, object (general)
    1b) utensil, implement, apparatus, vessel
    1b1) implement (of hunting or war)
    1b2) implement (of music)
    1b3) implement, tool (of labour)
    1b4) equipment, yoke (of oxen)
    1b5) utensils, furniture
    1c) vessel, receptacle (general)
    1d) vessels (boats) of paper-reed
    STRONGS:
    From H3615; something prepared, that is, any apparatus (as an implement, utensil, dress, vessel or weapon): - armour ([-bearer]), artillery, bag, carriage, + furnish, furniture, instrument, jewel, that is made of, X one from another, that which pertaineth, pot, + psaltery, sack, stuff, thing, tool, vessel, ware, weapon, + whatsoever
    .

    Total KJV Occurrences:
    vessels,132 instruments,37 vessel,34 jewels,21 armourbearer,18 weapons,17 stuff,14 thing,11 armour,10 furniture,7 weapon,4 whatsoever,3 bag,2 carriage,2 instrument,2 artillery,1 carriages,1 furnish,1 jewel,1 made,1 one,1 pot,1 psalteries,1 psaltery,1 tool,1 wares,1
    No place else in Scripture is this word used to mean clothing.
    Again, if Yahweh meant this part of the verse to mean women wearing pants, why didn’t He use the word He used in the 2nd half of the verse?

    H8071

    śimlâh
    BDB Definition:
    wrapper, mantle, covering garment, garments, clothes, raiment, a cloth
    STRONGS:
    Perhaps by permutation for the feminine of H5566 (through the idea of a cover assuming the shape of the object beneath); a dress, especially a mantle: - apparel, cloth (-es, -ing), garment, raiment
    Let’s look at the next underlined word:

    H1397

    geber
    BDB Definition:
    man, strong man, warrior (emphasizing strength or ability to fight)
    STRONGS:
    From H1396; properly a valiant man or warrior; generally a person simply: - every one, man, X mighty.
    This word does not imply man in general terms, but a warrior. If it were meant to mean man in general wouldn’t Yahweh have used:

    H376
    'îysh
    BDB Definition:
    1) man
    1a) man, male (in contrast to woman, female)
    So with a word study of this verse, it would be more correctly interpreted as:

    Woman shall not be/become a vessel/tool/thing/instrument/weapon of a warrior/valiant man
    neither shall a warrior/valiant man put on a woman’s garment,
    for whoever does this is an abomination to Yahweh your Elohim.


    I believe this whole verse is a command to men, and is wrongly translated and used as a command to how women dress.

  • #2
    Regardless of whether you have proved anything in that passage or not, the Bible commands women to dress modestly and if she can do that wearing britches, good for her, but I have not seen very many women in "modest britches" that would not excite either lust or digust!

    Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

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    • #3
      So according to that verse, women shouldn't be in the military?
      Mommy to Brooke, Braden and Bristol

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      • #4
        Originally posted by flybaby View Post
        So according to that verse, women shouldn't be in the military?
        This verse could justify the forbidding of using women in combat at the least.

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        • #5
          Remember, it is written in Biblical Hebrew, (compare that to Shakespeare English)
          So to actually say a woman should not wear man's clothing, it can be said.... a woman not to turn into a man's clothing... ot man's paraphernalia not to be found on a woman.... to wear = to be on

          It reads like this :
          (adv. no, nor, nix Not)
          (V to be, exist, be present; happen, occur, take place: become, turn into) (nm tool, appliance, facility, piece, gear, ware, paraphernalia, gadgetry, outfit, tackle; vessel, ewer; utensil; instrument, apparatus, implement)
          (nm man, male, macho; hero, valiant)
          (prep. on, upon, above, over, about, on top, atop, of, onto, at)
          (nf.
          woman, lady, girl, she; wife, spouse, feme, femme, helpmate, helpmeet, mulier)

          not, to be, an outfit, of a man, onto, a woman......... (and vice versa)

          I hope this helps you

          Thus ::: (Genesis 1:3) And Elohim said, Let there be1961 light: and there was1961 light.
          (Genesis 1:3) And Elohim said, let light exist : and light existed.

          remember, one word can have more than one meaning, depending on how it is used, and the usage of the language of the time
          The LORD is my Miracle

          G_d was gracious He has shown favor


          Hope is a seed
          God plants in our hearts
          to remind us
          there are better things ahead.
          -Holley Gerth

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          • #6
            I actually think this verse speaks about "cross dressing" in Homosexuals
            The LORD is my Miracle

            G_d was gracious He has shown favor


            Hope is a seed
            God plants in our hearts
            to remind us
            there are better things ahead.
            -Holley Gerth

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            • #7
              WOW!
              Now that's a post.

              As to your question, women will wear pants if they don't want to get arrested.

              (Sorry, just couldn't resist - feeling a bit silly tonight.)

              God bless.
              "Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."

              { Psalm 46:10 }

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              • #8
                When Deuteronomy was written 100's of years ago, men didn't wear pants either. They wore skirts or robes mostly.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lamplighter View Post
                  When Deuteronomy was written 100's of years ago, men didn't wear pants either. They wore skirts or robes mostly.
                  Well then let me do the rest of that verse for you...

                  וְלֹא.... and not
                  יִלְבַּשׁ.... to be dressed. to wear
                  גֶּבֶר......nm. man, male, macho; hero, valiant
                  שִׂמְלַת....nf. dress, skirt, gown
                  אִשָּׁה.....nf. woman, lady, girl, she; wife, spouse, feme, femme, helpmate, helpmeet, mulier


                  Thus.... and also a man should not wear a dress/skirt/gown belonging to woman (thus womans clothing )

                  BTW.... the first part does not say "Pants" per se.... it says a garment/paraphernalia belonging to man (man's clothing) Clothing that is considered to be for men...
                  The LORD is my Miracle

                  G_d was gracious He has shown favor


                  Hope is a seed
                  God plants in our hearts
                  to remind us
                  there are better things ahead.
                  -Holley Gerth

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ACCM View Post
                    Well then let me do the rest of that verse for you...

                    וְלֹא.... and not
                    יִלְבַּשׁ.... to be dressed. to wear
                    גֶּבֶר......nm. man, male, macho; hero, valiant
                    שִׂמְלַת....nf. dress, skirt, gown
                    אִשָּׁה.....nf. woman, lady, girl, she; wife, spouse, feme, femme, helpmate, helpmeet, mulier


                    Thus.... and also a man should not wear a dress/skirt/gown belonging to woman (thus womans clothing )

                    BTW.... the first part does not say "Pants" per se.... it says a garment/paraphernalia belonging to man (man's clothing) Clothing that is considered to be for men...
                    Unless your Joan of Arc and need to fool a bunch of soldiers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Back2Front View Post
                      Unless your Joan of Arc and need to fool a bunch of soldiers.
                      .
                      Do you understand Hebrew??
                      The LORD is my Miracle

                      G_d was gracious He has shown favor


                      Hope is a seed
                      God plants in our hearts
                      to remind us
                      there are better things ahead.
                      -Holley Gerth

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                      • #12
                        ru from..

                        Heftsiba the Kibbutz or are you searching in yourself?

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                        • #13
                          This is not a literal thing

                          Think about it... in the time of the old Testament all garments were basically cloth or skirt covering so "not wearing pants" is not to be taken literally. Perhaps it means women should defer to her husband as head of family. What do you think?
                          God Bless,
                          Spiritual Treasureman

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                          • #14
                            If

                            Well, I guess it will be tough for women to move around and if the wind happens to blow their skirts will be easily expose... That's embarrassing...maybe it applies at Moses time maybe...if have to wear skirt...sometimes they will get mosquito bites...poor them...
                            Shinjitsu wa itsumo hitotsu
                            2 Timothy 3:16 Jehovah Jireh Matthew 6:33

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ACCM View Post
                              I actually think this verse speaks about "cross dressing" in Homosexuals
                              Ding ding ding! We have a winner. Someone must read Hebrew...

                              The basic idea of this verse is to prohibit a man or woman from dressing up for the purpose of trying to pass one's self off as the opposite sex.
                              For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived? ~ Deuteronomy 5:26

                              If you're not prepared to risk your very life for your "enemy" you have no right to speak to him of love. ~ Daughter

                              Many say they are called... but I am pretty convinced that with many of them it was the wrong number. ~ Project Peter

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