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    Some of you know, (and have been praying for me to find work) I am praying, and searching hard for a job. I have been praying that God provide me with all my needs, and I do pray specifically as well. Like I will ask Him to provide the job openings, and then for interviews, and for me to find favor with those hiring.

    I read chapter 21 of 2 Samuel last night, and came upon something that really caught my attention. As some of you will know, that is the chapter where David inquires of the Lord after 3 years of drought. I truly appreciate Dave Guzik's commentary. I want to mention it because I need to "cite" the source when I share information I get from someone else. As I read the Word, I try to open my heart, and mind to the Holy Spirit Who is my ultimate Guide into understanding what God has for me to learn. But for me, I like going to another believer, someone who has gone before me, and studied. It doesn't mean they are always right, and it doesn't mean I always agree with them on their "opinion". It just helps me iron things out. And some things, I have realized, are not for me to understand now, if ever, I just need to trust in the Lord, and accept that His grace is sufficient.

    Anyway, I read about what God told David when David had inquired,

    2 Samuel 21:1
    1 Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David inquired of the LORD. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.

    I remembered reading where the Gibeonites pulled a fast one on Israel so that they would be saved from being wiped out by Israel (covenant with Gibeonites in Joshua)

    (From Dave Guzik's commentary on Ch. 21 of Samuel:
    i. In the days of Joshua - more than 400 years before David’s time - Israel swore not to harm the Gibeonites, a neighboring tribe (Joshua 9:1-27). God expected Israel to keep their promise, even though the Gibeonites tricked Israel into making the agreement. Saul’s crime was not only in the killing of the Gibeonites but also in breaking this ancient and important oath.)

    So Saul had broken the covenant 400 years later by massacering many of the Gibeonites.

    What God showed me is that sometimes He may not answer prayer because there is some sin that needs to be dealt with. I admit I was overwhelmed because I felt I have so much sin in my life, but not necessarily sin I haven't dealt with. But I am wondering if there is. I mean something I haven't asked forgiveness for, something I did that was wrong and so I am not being given a job. I feel so stupid even saying this since God does all these miracles in the bible, and plenty today as well, and I am fretting about finding a job, but it is frightening. I am trying hard to trust God, but many of you will know what this is like. Not knowing where the next dime is coming from.

    This whole post is really about prayer, and why they may not be answered. I had a friend that said God always answers prayer, it's just sometimes no, wait, or yes

    Feedback welcome and appreciated as always, denise, ysic

    PS I found an amazing post on "unanswered prayer", it so helped me to read it so I wanted to share it, go here
    Last edited by Oregongrown; Oct 17th 2013, 03:31 PM.

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    Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

    This may sound different Denise, but I subscribe to the biblical notion that if one prays in accordance to the will of God, every prayer will be answered. The challenge then become, what is the will of God?

    I've got another call to jump on but hope this will help you in your journey as we all [re]calibrate our prayer lives...
    "Enter by the Narrow Gate...
    Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way...
    ... there are few who find it."


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      Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

      Well, here's something to consider

      "We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him"
      Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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      • #4
        Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

        Originally posted by keck553 View Post
        Well, here's something to consider

        "We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him"
        Listening is one thing, answering is another thing

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          Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

          Originally posted by Redeemed by Grace View Post
          This may sound different Denise, but I subscribe to the biblical notion that if one prays in accordance to the will of God, every prayer will be answered. The challenge then become, what is the will of God?

          I've got another call to jump on but hope this will help you in your journey as we all [re]calibrate our prayer lives...
          I understand this and agree as well, the bible says this, and yes, knowing the will of God. I am realizing lately, I have many prayers being answered and when I look at the ones He is answering, I see that my prayers answered are those self-less ones, or unselfish. Prayers like for salvations of lost, loved ones, those I know are in God's time.

          Where I am learning about myself right now, is the OT. I am looking forward to the NT but I am so glad I made the decision to read the OT, some folks tell me they don't read it and that is between them and God. Maybe I'm just too curious to leave it out

          ttys, ysic, denise

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          • #6
            Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

            Originally posted by imreedemed View Post
            Listening is one thing, answering is another thing
            People assume their prayers are not answered because they don't get what they expect. But God isn't santa claus; and HIs ways are not our ways, and His thoughts are not our thoughts.

            Our prayers are answered; just not how we would expect them. If we assume all prayers are answered in a way we can understand, then we will be sadly disappointed. I'm sure a 1st century Jew under the oppression of Rome would either understand or not understand that Jesus was the answer to prayer depending on their own enlightenment and eternal perspective.
            Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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            • #7
              Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

              Originally posted by keck553 View Post
              Well, here's something to consider

              "We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does his will, God listens to him"
              I'm sure you meant people that don't come to Jesus, but pray to "something", or something like that. I thank God He listened to this sinner, yes, I'm saved by Grace but I never want to forget my sin nature, that doesn't go away until I am out of this flesh I also believe God listens even if we are not in His will, He may be silent, until we learn more about Him. I am just speaking from experience right now because believe me when I say I am clumsy at prayer sometimes, but God shows me where I might be off doing something that He wants to bring to my attention.


              Just some thoughts and I apologize if I misunderstood your reply Keck, ysic, denise

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                Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                Originally posted by Oregongrown View Post
                I understand this and agree as well, the bible says this, and yes, knowing the will of God. I am realizing lately, I have many prayers being answered and when I look at the ones He is answering, I see that my prayers answered are those self-less ones, or unselfish. Prayers like for salvations of lost, loved ones, those I know are in God's time.

                Where I am learning about myself right now, is the OT. I am looking forward to the NT but I am so glad I made the decision to read the OT, some folks tell me they don't read it and that is between them and God. Maybe I'm just too curious to leave it out

                ttys, ysic, denise
                Our minds are constantly being renewed, our desires becoming his desires, our own ways becoming unpalitable for us. None of us are in a place where we are 100% spiritually mature, so none of us can expect that 100% of our prayers are in God's will. That is why some of us pray "if it be your will Lord...."
                Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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                  Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                  Originally posted by imreedemed View Post
                  Listening is one thing, answering is another thing
                  Yes that's true, God is not oblivious to what any of us are up to, saved or the unsaved. He is either ALL-knowing, or He is not right. But I understand to that I need to trust too, I mean in God's hearing my prayer, He does, and why I may not get an answer, or He may say no, and why He did answer. I don't have any notion that I will find the perfect formula of prayer so that God will answer every prayer I utter, yesterday. I just don't see Him like that kind of Father, like some computer. If you plug in the right info, you get just the right stuff back, noway, not the God I worship

                  ysic, denise

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                  • #10
                    Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                    Originally posted by keck553 View Post
                    Our minds are constantly being renewed, our desires becoming his desires, our own ways becoming unpalitable for us. None of us are in a place where we are 100% spiritually mature, so none of us can expect that 100% of our prayers are in God's will. That is why some of us pray "if it be your will Lord...."
                    Oh yeah, you nailed it here, "our desires becoming His desires" and upalitable must mean, not good for us? I love this, excellent read, denise, ysic

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                    • #11
                      Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                      Originally posted by Oregongrown View Post
                      Oh yeah, you nailed it here, "our desires becoming His desires" and upalitable must mean, not good for us? I love this, excellent read, denise, ysic
                      Read James in the perspective of prayer and relationship with God. Keeping in mind that James is addressing believers, it is pretty convicting for me anyway.

                      But I tell you, about 4 years ago I prayed to God that He save my business (which was in part a ministry honoring Him), and He didn't do that. But what He did was far, far, far greater for my life, my family and my relationship with God than He could have done had He answered in accordance with my will. I could have been bitter having to sell my business and being burdened with $80,000.00 in business debt.....and perhaps I was for a while...but God was faithful and today I am debt free and my family is whole. If I were forced to account in numbers how all this happened, I couldn't tell you, because I don't make enough to pay $80,000.00 of debt in four years. I do know that we simplified our lives to the extreme and it was an incredible blessing not to have the burden of a life filled with all kinds of stuff and complexities to tend to, and to worry about losing. It gave me focus to tend to loving God and loving my neighbors. To understand their plight in their various broken dreams and broken lives. God gave me a testimony and showed me that anything I have, whether it be gifts, talents, or skills - that they are all a gift from Him and for His glory, not for mine.

                      "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

                      God proved His character to me through those very difficult years. And I am here to testify to His "chesed" (lovingkindness). And I am also here to tell you I deserved none of it. Grace can be a difficult concept.
                      Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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                        Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                        Originally posted by keck553 View Post
                        Read James in the perspective of prayer and relationship with God. Keeping in mind that James is addressing believers, it is pretty convicting for me anyway.

                        But I tell you, about 4 years ago I prayed to God that He save my business (which was in part a ministry honoring Him), and He didn't do that. But what He did was far, far, far greater for my life, my family and my relationship with God than He could have done had He answered in accordance with my will. I could have been bitter having to sell my business and being burdened with $80,000.00 in business debt.....and perhaps I was for a while...but God was faithful and today I am debt free and my family is whole. If I were forced to account in numbers how all this happened, I couldn't tell you, because I don't make enough to pay $80,000.00 of debt in four years. I do know that we simplified our lives to the extreme and it was an incredible blessing not to have the burden of a life filled with all kinds of stuff and complexities to tend to, and to worry about losing. It gave me focus to tend to loving God and loving my neighbors. To understand their plight in their various broken dreams and broken lives. God gave me a testimony and showed me that anything I have, whether it be gifts, talents, or skills - that they are all a gift from Him and for His glory, not for mine.

                        "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

                        God proved His character to me through those very difficult years. And I am here to testify to His "chesed" (lovingkindness). And I am also here to tell you I deserved none of it. Grace can be a difficult concept.
                        I so appreciated this story of how God worked in your life Keck, thank you so much for sharing it. I have to tell you I am in 27,000 debt, and then some for other unpaid bills from my past. I have been praying hard for the ways and means to pay them off. I know that I got myself into that debt, purely my own fault/decision. I loved where you wrote that you couldn't figure the numbers because you didn't make enough to pay it. I have heard this more then once, people of God being able to pay their debts but don't know how it happened. I mean "they" did pay it with their money, but it was still miraculous. I am trusting the Lord for that as well. I just KNOW He will help me, He will provide the way because I do believe it IS His will I pay my debts. The bible says that we are to, here's just one verse on it:

                        Romans 13:8 ESV

                        Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.

                        But I just want to thank you again, you've encouraged me greatly!! Praise be to God for all my brothers and sisters in Christ that help me to see Praise smiley.gif

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                          Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                          Originally posted by Oregongrown View Post
                          I so appreciated this story of how God worked in your life Keck, thank you so much for sharing it. I have to tell you I am in 27,000 debt, and then some for other unpaid bills from my past. I have been praying hard for the ways and means to pay them off. I know that I got myself into that debt, purely my own fault/decision. I loved where you wrote that you couldn't figure the numbers because you didn't make enough to pay it. I have heard this more then once, people of God being able to pay their debts but don't know how it happened. I mean "they" did pay it with their money, but it was still miraculous. I am trusting the Lord for that as well. I just KNOW He will help me, He will provide the way because I do believe it IS His will I pay my debts. The bible says that we are to, here's just one verse on it:

                          Romans 13:8 ESV

                          Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.

                          But I just want to thank you again, you've encouraged me greatly!! Praise be to God for all my brothers and sisters in Christ that help me to see [ATTACH=CONFIG]12026[/ATTACH]
                          Yeah, that's it really. God isn't a "one size fits all" like our government though. He is thorough and misses nothing. He is perfect in His grace and mercy; and His main goal is to turn you towards Him and protect you from the enemy. We face many circumstances in our lives, but our victory is not so much in a "good" outcome of the circumstance as much as how we respond to the circumstance, and to whom we put our trust in. There are consequences for our choices, and God certainly did not let me off the hook for my choices, but He did straighten our my heart, changed my desires and gave me a better understanding that He chooses how I am to obey Him, not I. This kind of goes back to that ministry thread. Several times I decided how I was going to serve God, and every time it was based on my choice, I experienced defeat, no matter how badly I wanted to serve Him. I can only come to the conclusion that I don't know what the best medicine is for me, but make no mistake. God's "medicine" is not watered down so as to make it easy for us to swallow and have little of no effect; for Jesus fully intends to heal our broken hearts and give us His rest. Don't take too much stock in "prosperity" or cotton candy preachers who proclaim a false gospel. Life is difficult, and a Christian's life is even more challenging. We are not promised easy and materially rich lives. And sometimes being solvent is based more on pride than honor. If that is the case (it was with me) God will break that pride, at great price if need be, for it is a stumbling block. But we are promised shalom and rest in Him. And that is a most beautiful place to be.

                          Glory be to God.
                          Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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                            Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                            Originally posted by keck553 View Post
                            Yeah, that's it really. God isn't a "one size fits all" like our government though. He is thorough and misses nothing. He is perfect in His grace and mercy; and His main goal is to turn you towards Him and protect you from the enemy. We face many circumstances in our lives, but our victory is not so much in a "good" outcome of the circumstance as much as how we respond to the circumstance, and to whom we put our trust in. There are consequences for our choices, and God certainly did not let me off the hook for my choices, but He did straighten our my heart, changed my desires and gave me a better understanding that He chooses how I am to obey Him, not I. This kind of goes back to that ministry thread. Several times I decided how I was going to serve God, and every time it was based on my choice, I experienced defeat, no matter how badly I wanted to serve Him. I can only come to the conclusion that I don't know what the best medicine is for me, but make no mistake. God's "medicine" is not watered down so as to make it easy for us to swallow and have little of no effect; for Jesus fully intends to heal our broken hearts and give us His rest. Don't take too much stock in "prosperity" or cotton candy preachers who proclaim a false gospel. Life is difficult, and a Christian's life is even more challenging. We are not promised an easy and materially rich lives. But we are promised shalom and rest in Him. That is a most beautiful place to be.

                            Glory be to God.
                            Funny but I was thinking about all the decisions I have made on my own, even today I was thinking "now what shall I do" and I stopped right there and started praying for His guidance in "what I should do". Thank you again, I enjoy what you wrote and can't agree more, even though I my eyes are just beginning to be opened to these truths. I guess I am excited, yes, I am excited I am smiling now, no frown, just have a lot of hope in Him today, thanks a great deal to what you've replied, may God bless you richly today, denise, ysic

                            PS yes, the riches of the world cannot compare the riches in knowing God.

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                              Re: Reasons for unanswered prayer

                              Originally posted by Oregongrown View Post
                              Funny but I was thinking about all the decisions I have made on my own, even today I was thinking "now what shall I do" and I stopped right there and started praying for His guidance in "what I should do". Thank you again, I enjoy what you wrote and can't agree more, even though I my eyes are just beginning to be opened to these truths. I guess I am excited, yes, I am excited I am smiling now, no frown, just have a lot of hope in Him today, thanks a great deal to what you've replied, may God bless you richly today, denise, ysic

                              PS yes, the riches of the world cannot compare the riches in knowing God.
                              Ever watch Fiddler on the roof? What an awesome conversation Tevye has with God walking down that road.

                              You should be excited, because real joy is always found in the Lord. When God asks you to "cast your anxieties (unfocused worrying), He means all of them; that includes the little ones we think we can handle and the big ones we think He can't handle.
                              Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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