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  • What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

    Was Melchizedek the preincarnate, temporary appearance of the Son of God? Why was he without father or mother? What does that suggest? Then it goes on to say he had neither beginning of days nor end of life, implying that he is eternal. It also says his priesthood continues forever. Was this a foreshadowing of Christ or something else?

    The Priestly Order of Melchizedek

    7:1 "For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, 2 and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace.3 He is without father or mother or genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest forever.


    4 See how great this man was to whom Abraham the patriarch gave a tenth of the spoils! 5 And those descendants of Levi who receive the priestly office have a commandment in the law to take tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, though these also are descended from Abraham. 6 But this man who does not have his descent from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.7 It is beyond dispute that the inferior is blessed by the superior. 8 In the one case tithes are received by mortal men, but in the other case, by one of whom it is testified that he lives. 9 One might even say that Levi himself, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, 10 for he was still in the loins of his ancestor when Melchizedek met him."

    Abram Blessed by Melchizedek

    After his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him, the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King's Valley). And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. (He was priest of God Most High.) And he blessed him and said,
    “Blessed be Abram by God Most High,
    Possessor of heaven and earth;
    and blessed be God Most High,
    who has delivered your enemies into your hand!”
    And Abram gave him a tenth of everything. (Genesis 14:17-20, ESV)




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    Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

    I think you will get different answers. This is helpful as it gives all the scripture where he is mentioned.

    Question: "Who was Melchizedek (Melchisedek)?"

    Answer: Melchizedek, whose name means “king of righteousness,” was a king of Salem (Jerusalem) and priest of the Most High God (Genesis 14:18-20; Psalm 110:4; Hebrews 5:6-11; 6:20-7:28). Melchizedek's sudden appearance and disappearance in the book of Genesis is somewhat mysterious. Melchizedek and Abraham first met after Abraham's defeat of Chedorlaomer and his three allies. Melchizedek presented bread and wine to Abraham and his weary men, demonstrating friendship. He bestowed a blessing on Abraham in the name of El Elyon (“God Most High”) and praised God for giving Abraham a victory in battle (Genesis 14:18-20).

    Abraham presented Melchizedek with a tithe (a tenth) of all the items he had gathered. By this act Abraham indicated that he recognized Melchizedek as a fellow-worshiper of the one true God as well as a priest who ranked higher spiritually than himself. Melchizedek's existence shows that there were people other than Abraham and his family who served the one true God.

    In Psalm 110, a messianic psalm written by David (Matthew 22:43), Melchizedek is seen as a type of Christ. This theme is repeated in the book of Hebrews, where both Melchizedek and Christ are considered kings of righteousness and peace. By citing Melchizedek and his unique priesthood as a type, the writer shows that Christ's new priesthood is superior to the old levitical order and the priesthood of Aaron (Hebrews 7:1-10).

    Some propose that Melchizedek was actually a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ. While possible, this view is unlikely. Melchizedek was the king of Salem. Would Jesus Christ have come to earth and ruled as an earthly king over a city? Melchizedek is similar to Christ in that they are both priests and kings; therefore, Melchizedek could be called a “type” of Christ, but they are not the same person.

    Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Melchize...#ixzz2kHJ3Q11H
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      Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

      Thanks jayne. What this shows is Melchizedek was/is greater than Abraham, yet he was a man, not an angel. The answer, while helpful, leads to more questions about his origin and who he was.
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        Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

        Originally posted by Nick View Post
        Thanks jayne. What this shows is Melchizedek was/is greater than Abraham, yet he was a man, not an angel. The answer, while helpful, leads to more questions about his origin and who he was.
        ...and there many not be a definitive answer. I know people have hashed this back and forth for many years.
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          Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

          Originally posted by jayne View Post
          ...and there many not be a definitive answer. I know people have hashed this back and forth for many years.
          I'm just looking for a more general understanding, mainly his priesthood. The text indicates that his priesthood continues to this day and forever.
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            Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

            Originally posted by Nick View Post
            I'm just looking for a more general understanding, mainly his priesthood. The text indicates that his priesthood continues to this day and forever.
            It seems to me his priesthood was a continual priesthood, except it ran into problems when the officiator no longer functioned correctly. We can see Abraham rebuking Melchizedek even though Abraham was reverent to his role...


            "And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself." why was he after the people?, not the tithe. In fact this priest Melchizedek was wanting the people so much he tried to bribe Abraham with the rest of the spoils.

            Anyway Abraham remained faithful and said "I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth, That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich" gen 14:23

            Another reason God had to create the levitical priesthood unto another could come and refill the position and officiate/mediate in the manner of Melchizedek.

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              Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

              Originally posted by boangry View Post
              It seems to me his priesthood was a continual priesthood, except it ran into problems when the officiator no longer functioned correctly. We can see Abraham rebuking Melchizedek even though Abraham was reverent to his role...


              "And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself." why was he after the people?, not the tithe. In fact this priest Melchizedek was wanting the people so much he tried to bribe Abraham with the rest of the spoils.

              Anyway Abraham remained faithful and said "I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth, That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich" gen 14:23

              Another reason God had to create the levitical priesthood unto another could come and refill the position and officiate/mediate in the manner of Melchizedek.
              I think boangry you just confused the King of Salem - Melchizedek with the King of Sodom - Bera. Not good. Gen 14:20 is Melchizedek, but 21 is Bera.

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                Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                Originally posted by boangry View Post
                It seems to me his priesthood was a continual priesthood, except it ran into problems when the officiator no longer functioned correctly. We can see Abraham rebuking Melchizedek even though Abraham was reverent to his role...


                "And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself." why was he after the people?, not the tithe. In fact this priest Melchizedek was wanting the people so much he tried to bribe Abraham with the rest of the spoils.
                OOPS!!!............
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                  Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                  Thanks Vakeros yep I did confuse them.

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                    Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                    Originally posted by jayne View Post
                    ...and there many not be a definitive answer. I know people have hashed this back and forth for many years.
                    I don't think there is. During my study of Genesis a few months ago this very question was posed and I've been reading about Abraham, Aaron, and Melchizedek, and the High Priesthood of Jesus Christ in Hebrews. I wouldn't say he was or he wasn't. I guess it's another of those mysteries that will be revealed after the Second Coming.
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                      Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                      I've read some references that say that he may have been Shem (Noah's son) who according to the calculations of the life spans in Gen was still alive when Abraham lived. Just another possibility but not enough info to say that it is more than just that.
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                        Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                        I thought Shem and Abraham were several generations apart?
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                          Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                          It seems there are good arguments on both sides about him being a Christophany or not but what's more important is understanding in the Arronic priesthood a priest could not be a king and a king not a priest. Jesus however is both a king and a priest in the order of Melchizedek. He first came as a priest and made atonement for the people and then received His crown. As we are to follow by picking up our cross in this life before we are raised to glory and receive our crown.

                          In short this is my understanding of Melchizedek. I happen to believe it was a Christophany but haven't found a good reason to argue it one way or another.

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                            Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                            Originally posted by Old man View Post
                            I've read some references that say that he may have been Shem (Noah's son) who according to the calculations of the life spans in Gen was still alive when Abraham lived. Just another possibility but not enough info to say that it is more than just that.
                            I have to admit, I thought that was ludicrous when I read it, but I checked it out and did the math and your are right. Shem was alive when Abraham was alive and in fact, outlived him.

                            Feel free to check my math anybody.

                            Genesis 11
                            These are the family records of Shem.
                            Shem lived 100 years and fathered Arpachshad two years after the flood. After he fathered Arpachshad, Shem lived 500 years and fathered other sons and daughters.
                            Arpachshad lived 35 years and fathered Shelah. After he fathered Shelah, Arpachshad lived 403 years and fathered other sons and daughters. Shelah lived 30 years and fathered Eber. After he fathered Eber, Shelah lived 403 years and fathered other sons and daughters. Eber lived 34 years and fathered Peleg. After he fathered Peleg, Eber lived 430 years and fathered other sons and daughters. Peleg lived 30 years and fathered Reu. After he fathered Reu, Peleg lived 209 years and fathered other sons and daughters. Reu lived 32 years and fathered Serug. After he fathered Serug, Reu lived 207 years and fathered other sons and daughters. Serug lived 30 years and fathered Nahor. After he fathered Nahor, Serug lived 200 years and fathered other sons and daughters. Nahor lived 29 years and fathered Terah. After he fathered Terah, Nahor lived 119 years and fathered other sons and daughters. Terah lived 70 years and fathered Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
                            So, if we call the year of the Flood year “1” – for argument’s sake, then Shem had his son, Arpachshad in year “3” and lived until year “500”.
                            • Arpachshad fathered Shelah in year 38.
                            • Shelah fathered Eber in year 68.
                            • Eber fathered Peleg in year 102.
                            • Peleg fathered Reu in year 132.
                            • Reu fathered Serug in year 164.
                            • Serug father Nahor in year 194.
                            • Nahor fathered Terah in 223.
                            • Terah fathered Abra(ham), Nahor, and Haran beginning in year 293.
                            • Abraham lived 175 years making him die in year 468.



                            Making Shem outliving his 6th great-grandson, Abraham by 32 or so years?!?!?

                            I haven't looked into Shem being Melchizedek, but I'll do that later.
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                              Re: What do we know about Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God?

                              I don't believe Shem was Mel, but I do want to be a second witness to Shem having been alive when Abraham was.

                              Shem - born in the year 1558 (from creation not the flood) and died in 2158 Gen 11:10-11
                              Abraham - born in the year 1948 (how ironic is THAT?) and died in 2123 Gen 11:26 & DSS 4 Q252 Plate 5

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