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    The Old Testament states that a descendant of David will always rule over Israel. Is the current ruler, Netanyahu(SP?), a descendant of David? If he isn't, when did it stop?

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    Re: Descendants of David

    Originally posted by Macnerd View Post
    The Old Testament states that a descendant of David will always rule over Israel. Is the current ruler, Netanyahu(SP?), a descendant of David? If he isn't, when did it stop?
    The descendant of David is Jesus. And the reigning is not over a temporal state that happens to be called Israel. It is a kingdom of God kind of ruling.

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      Re: Descendants of David

      Hi, Macnerd....

      This statement is found in 1 Kings 9 and is repeated in 2 Chronicles 7.

      It comes with a caveat, however. God is speaking to King Solomon and giving him a choice: [a] live in obedience to God and walk uprightly and I will give you the promise I made your father that there will always be descendant ruling on Israel's throne ...... [b] OR you can turn from following God and worship other gods and I will make Israel a joke among the nations and an example of calamity.

      I think you and I both know what happened.

      The descendant of David that is on the "Throne" today is Jesus.

      As far as any Prime Minister of Israel - past or current - being a descendant of David - it is impossible to know.
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        Re: Descendants of David

        Originally posted by Macnerd View Post
        The Old Testament states that a descendant of David will always rule over Israel. Is the current ruler, Netanyahu(SP?), a descendant of David?
        Actually, yes he is.

        If he isn't, when did it stop?
        586 BC, when the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem and exiled the Jews.

        Originally posted by jayne View Post
        As far as any Prime Minister of Israel - past or current - being a descendant of David - it is impossible to know.
        Actually there's thousands of people alive today who are descendants of king David.

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          Re: Descendants of David

          Originally posted by Fenris View Post
          Actually there's thousands of people alive today who are descendants of king David.
          Of that, I am sure. But how does one know?
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            Re: Descendants of David

            Originally posted by jayne View Post
            Of that, I am sure. But how does one know?
            They can trace their lineage back to medieval rabbis who could trace their lineage back to king David.

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              Re: Descendants of David

              Originally posted by Fenris View Post
              They can trace their lineage back to medieval rabbis who could trace their lineage back to king David.
              I'm sorry but that is simply not true. There are very few who can genuinely trace their ancestry back to medieval Rabbis with any degree of authenticity. The records were lost. Many after Jesus claimed to be descended from David. It became a hobby. But it was without proof. The claims of such people are based on a hope and a prayer

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                Re: Descendants of David

                Originally posted by petrobb View Post
                I'm sorry but that is simply not true.
                Ah. Another expert on Judaism. I know where to come should I have any questions.

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                  Re: Descendants of David

                  Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                  They can trace their lineage back to medieval rabbis who could trace their lineage back to king David.
                  Are any of these traced to the royal line or simply David's non ruling children?
                  "He's wild, you know. Not like a tame lion."
                  C.S. Lewis, "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe."

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                  "Sometimes the sky rains night after night, When will it clear?"

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                  "It's more than our optimism, Let the earth quake"
                  "Our Hope is unchanged"
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                    Re: Descendants of David

                    Originally posted by Old man View Post
                    Are any of these traced to the royal line or simply David's non ruling children?
                    So far as I know, only the royal line. The other people wouldn't be "interesting" enough to follow I guess.

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                      Re: Descendants of David

                      Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                      Ah. Another expert on Judaism. I know where to come should I have any questions.
                      I will always be happy to help you out. It is often the outsider who sees things as they really are

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                        Re: Descendants of David

                        Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                        Actually there's thousands of people alive today who are descendants of king David.
                        Probably more like 6 figures - considering Solomon also had many wives.
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                          Re: Descendants of David

                          Originally posted by petrobb View Post
                          It is often the outsider who sees things as they really are
                          Remember that the next time the Freedom From Religion Foundation dictates to you how to be a Christian.
                          Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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                            Re: Descendants of David

                            Originally posted by petrobb View Post
                            I will always be happy to help you out. It is often the outsider who sees things as they really are
                            I'm the outsider here. I suppose that makes me the expert on Christianity.

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                              Re: Descendants of David

                              Originally posted by Fenris View Post
                              I'm the outsider here. I suppose that makes me the expert on Christianity.
                              It probably enables you to see the folly of some of the views expressed because you are not tied to internal ways of thinking

                              I don't claim to be an expert on modern Judaism, but I can claim a good knowledge of ancient Judaism gained from experts.

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