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    I have heard from a couple of preachers that the New Testament starts only from the Book of Acts. I did not know how to explain this but reading through the book of Matthew I found that in Matthew Chapter 26 Verse 28: Jesus says: "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins" When He died on the cross the New Testament came in fulfillment and throughout the Books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John the story of Jesus gets told of before he was crucified. So according to what Jesus said in Verse 28 mentioned above the New Testament does not start until He died on the cross which means that the New Testament only starts from the Book of Acts which was written after Jesus was crucified.

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    The New testament starts with Jesus, hence with the Incarnation. It was ratified on the cross with His shed blood.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by JanH View Post
      The New Testament only starts from the Book of Acts which was written after Jesus was crucified.
      You know that the gospels were written after Jesus was crucified, too, right?

      The gospels give us a recap of the events surrounding the New Covenant's beginning. Acts simply records the events that took place after the New Covenant had already begun.
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      • #4
        Well ok, so let me rephrase my earlier statement where I said "The New Testament only starts from the Book of Acts" and rather quote, "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins"

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        • #5
          The new testament starts at Genesis 1:1

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Back2Front View Post
            The new testament starts at Genesis 1:1
            Usually an opinion is followed by scripture...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JanH View Post
              Usually an opinion is followed by scripture...
              Oh, he's just saying that the Bible is all one unified whole, which is true, names aside.

              But I would point out that naming the starting point of the "New Testament" as being at the book of Acts, while being admittedly based on the start of the so-called "Church Age" in that book, is still an arbitrary decision that the "Church Age" is the correct place for such a designation to be based on. It's all just in a name.

              Unless one is going to argue that one part of the Bible is more worthy of our study than another, I don't see that it makes much difference, because most Christian theologians would describe the New Testament (where-ever it begins) as being simply the fulfillment of the Old Testament anyway.

              And it is hard to escape the fact that the Jews will agree that everything up to Malachi is indeed Scriptural, but they don't include the Gospels. Considering that the "blinding in part they are experiencing" came directly from God, as described in Romans 9-11, and one result of that same God-sent blinding is the exclusion of the four Gospels as well as everything from Acts onward, it seems difficult to avoid concluding that Matthew would be God's designated start of the New Testament.

              Just thinking "aloud" here....
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              • #8
                sitting here being the dispensationalist that i am (by that i mean i see in scripture that God dealt with man in different ways at different times, this is not a point of arguement but background) it occurs to me that the Covenant was always sealed with blood, so the new Covenant would begin with the shed blood of the Savior at the Cross(or stake, but i digress), the Age of Grace would have begun with the recieving of holy spirit on the day of pentecost. interrupting the Christ administration begun in the gospels and to be continued after the gathering together (rapture).

                testament's root word is testes which is latin for... in Gen 24 Abraham makes a testament with his servant to obtain a wife for isaac.

                so testament is not the same as covenant. i guess that's where i was going with this. I'm thinkin too that it would make sense that the covenants transend but do not negate the dispensations. questions? i know i have a bunch.
                Christianity is a leap of faith, not the abandonment of logic.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JanH View Post
                  I have heard from a couple of preachers that the New Testament starts only from the Book of Acts. I did not know how to explain this but reading through the book of Matthew I found that in Matthew Chapter 26 Verse 28: Jesus says: "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins" When He died on the cross the New Testament came in fulfillment and throughout the Books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John the story of Jesus gets told of before he was crucified. So according to what Jesus said in Verse 28 mentioned above the New Testament does not start until He died on the cross which means that the New Testament only starts from the Book of Acts which was written after Jesus was crucified.
                  Hallo Jan,
                  I understand completely what you mean by the NT only starting where we pick up the story in Acts. Personally I think that the New Testament, or New Covenant if you will, only started at Pentacost.
                  Yes, at His death on the cross the ultimate dept was paid, and yes, when He rose from the dead He showed the Jews and the Gentiles alike that He was trully Master of all, but it was at Pentacost, when each of the diciples had his own flame over there heads, and received his own personalised part of the Holly Spirit, that the Lord finally sealed His new Covenant with all that was to become His children.

                  Anyways, there will be lots of folks who would disagree with me, but this is how I see it. We should also remember, in light of what Back2Front said ( al be it a bit too criptically for my own taste) , that we read the books of the Old Testament differently because of what happened in the New Testament. Although the New Testament stands on the very solid foundation of the OT, the New Testament sheds a very special and very specific light on the Old Testament, lighting up that golden thread of the promise an prophesy upon prophesy of the Mesiah that we find troughout the ancient texts.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 1of7000 View Post
                    sitting here being the dispensationalist that i am (by that i mean i see in scripture that God dealt with man in different ways at different times, this is not a point of arguement but background) it occurs to me that the Covenant was always sealed with blood, so the new Covenant would begin with the shed blood of the Savior at the Cross(or stake, but i digress), the Age of Grace would have begun with the recieving of holy spirit on the day of pentecost. interrupting the Christ administration begun in the gospels and to be continued after the gathering together (rapture).

                    testament's root word is testes which is latin for... in Gen 24 Abraham makes a testament with his servant to obtain a wife for isaac.

                    so testament is not the same as covenant. i guess that's where i was going with this. I'm thinkin too that it would make sense that the covenants transend but do not negate the dispensations. questions? i know i have a bunch.
                    Could not an argument be made that the gospels are about the obtaining of a wife?
                    "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." - Revelation 20:6

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                    • #11
                      I believe the Word declares that the New Covenant was brought to pass when our Lord Jesus Christ shed His blood on the cross.

                      It is finished . . .

                      Hebrews 9:16-17
                      For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.
                      When Jesus Christ died on the cross that brought an end to the old covenant and brought about the new covenant. Just like when a person has a last will and testament . . . the family does not receive of this last will and testament until the death of the one administering it.

                      So technically, if we're going by an order of the Scriptures, the new testament began toward the end of the four gospels.
                      "What you do does not define who you are; it's who you are that defines what you do."

                      -- Dr. Neil T. Anderson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rufus_1611 View Post
                        Could not an argument be made that the gospels are about the obtaining of a wife?

                        it could but it won't be me making it. the fundamental premise would assume that the latin interjections, into a greek manuscript that was a multi-generational copy of the aramaic originals, by a commitee of englishman had validity. since i don't i won't
                        Christianity is a leap of faith, not the abandonment of logic.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Back2Front View Post
                          The new testament starts at Genesis 1:1
                          I like the way you think...

                          If one wanted to make a distinction though, I believe that would only be found at Matthew 1. The new covenant began with the account of the Birth of Christ.
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                          • #14
                            Don't confuse "New Testament" being a collection of writing with "New Covenant".

                            The "New Testament" begins with the Gospel of Matthew, at least as it has been historically defined and arranged.

                            The "New Covenant," which completely and forever replaced the Old Covenant, began with the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross, at the moment of his death.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RabbiKnife View Post
                              Don't confuse "New Testament" being a collection of writing with "New Covenant".

                              The "New Testament" begins with the Gospel of Matthew, at least as it has been historically defined and arranged.

                              The "New Covenant," which completely and forever replaced the Old Covenant, began with the sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross, at the moment of his death.
                              The Scripture I referred you all to above in Hebrews refers to it as a testament, and it also declares that it did not come to pass until Jesus died.
                              "What you do does not define who you are; it's who you are that defines what you do."

                              -- Dr. Neil T. Anderson

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