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  • #61
    Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

    Forgot to finish my thought... I meant to add to that last sentence.

    The bookmarking of Job losing everything at the beginning then getting everything back two fold, and exactly 7 sons and 3 daughters again is also a fairly interesting coincidence.
    Do not say, “Why were the old days better than these?” For it is not wise to ask such questions.
    Ecc 7:10

    John777 exists to me only in quoted form.


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    • #62
      Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

      Originally posted by teddyv View Post
      Although quite possibly an unpopular opinion, reading the book of Job as an actual literal history is not justified.
      One must start with a bit more fear of the Lord in interpreting the Word of God. He frustrates the 'wise'.

      Anyway, by your standard, it might be that little in the Bible is literal history. But the truth is that literal history is being communicated in different ways in the Bible. So far as so-called 'bookmarking', God can and does as He pleases to communicate His truth. If he wants to give Job 7 and 3, He might do so to make a point. Is God too trite for you as you view His Word through your human intellectual constructs applied to what the Spirit has inspired?

      Really ... the arrogance of man is stifling.
      “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever,
      that we may observe all the words of this law."
      Deuteronomy 29:29

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      • #63
        Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

        Originally posted by TMarcum View Post
        I disagree with this viewpoint that the "sons of God" are fallen angels and that they reproduced with women.

        Genesis 6:
        1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
        2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.



        In Genesis 1:24, the bible says that every living thing was made will bring forth after it's kind.

        According to the way God made creation, it's not possible that angels could reproduce with human kind. They are not the same kind. Angels are spiritual beings and God made Adam a living soul.


        Genesis 1:24
        "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind"

        amen. There's not one reference to angels being a son of God, but many referring to men as his sons, even Adam is named Gods son.

        “Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
        **Luke‬ *3:38‬ *KJV‬‬

        “And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.”
        **Genesis‬ *4:26‬ *KJV‬‬


        “This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.”
        **Genesis‬ *5:1-5‬ *KJV‬‬

        the sons of God were the first generations of mankind. Those born of Adam who began calling on the name of the lord. To man God has always been calling them his sons , but because of the fall into sin, we could not hear. Note thier incredibly long lives then, and then Genesis six all man is declared to be wicked at heart and the earth is flooded. The earth was led astray and got off course because of sin

        “God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

        They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

        Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.”
        <<<promise of Christ.
        **Psalms‬ *82:1-8‬ *KJV‬‬


        we weren't made like we are now, that's why we need " salvation" " reconciliation" " redemption" God made us free like him, gave us dominion like him, made us in his image....Satan came along and led us into sin, that's not Gods doing, but Satan exploiting our flesh and we chose to follow.....

        Mankind are the sons of God. Remember were " chosen in him before the creation of the world to be sons of God" we meaning mankind. Those who have been given Christ Jesus are " born again" and through the gospel made the sons of God. Jesus is redeeming us, reconciling us to,our former place, again meaning mankind. To be reconciled, means infatically that he came to repair a relationship that existed priorly and was broken.....

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        • #64
          Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

          Originally posted by equinox View Post
          this is talking about the corruption of the genes just as the book says
          And again, where in the book does it say "the genes" were corrupted?

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          • #65
            Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

            Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
            I see it as the sons of Gods angels (demonic spirits) indwelled men which then had sex with woman.

            Were the "sons of God" in Job also demonic spirits who came to present themselves before the Lord?
            Job 1:6 "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord"

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            • #66
              Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

              Originally posted by TMarcum View Post
              Were the "sons of God" in Job also demonic spirits who came to present themselves before the Lord?
              Job 1:6 "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord"
              6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

              1 PT 3
              19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
              20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

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              • #67
                Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                Originally posted by Follower1977 View Post
                amen. There's not one reference to angels being a son of God
                Job 1
                6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

                Job 38
                7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

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                • #68
                  Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                  Scriptures declare that Jesus is the only begotten son of God,

                  *[[Joh 3:18]] KJV* He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

                  We can take this to be absolutely true when John wrote it. Yes, since that time, we becomes sons of God thru our faith in Jesus, and yet also we wait for our manifestation as the sons of God, that is yet future to us even today.

                  *[[Rom 8:19]] KJV* For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

                  With that being said, there were no BEGOTTEN sons of God prior to the 1st advent. And what is spoken of in Genesis 6 (and in Job) took place long before that 1st advent. What this boils down to is this: are the angels ever referred to as begotten? I think every one knows that "begat/begot" refers to the offspring of men & women, AND that angels are never referred to as begotten. Therefore, we can conclude that there were no sons of God begotten before the 1st advent.

                  Blessings
                  The PuP

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                  • #69
                    Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                    Did these sons of God also corrupt animals? Is this where the dinos were created giant aberrations of this mixture just as man?? When would God not only have to destroy man but also every beast?

                    7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them

                    12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

                    So then a question God spared 8 flesh of men to repopulate the earth, would this then mean that only 2 of every species were protected and not corrupted as well while all other animals were?


                    Dino as well as all flesh corrupted were killed off by the flood.

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                    • #70
                      Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                      Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
                      6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

                      1 PT 3
                      19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
                      20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
                      You did not answer the question regarding sons of God who came to present themselves before the Lord. Satan that came in with them in Job, were not part of the group of the sons of God that went to worship God and make sacrifice offerings to him for Jobs sons. Satan has never worshiped God.

                      The also gave a reference in 1 Peter 3 where you provided scripture regarding Jesus preaching to imprisoned spirits. These were the souls of men who died during the time of Noah awaiting the Judgment of Christ. Christ preached to them when he spent 3 days in the heart of the earth when he was crucified, awaiting the resurrection of his body.

                      God did not send his son Jesus to minister to fallen angels. They are not part of creation and were not given a living soul. Jesus was sent to reunite mankind which are in a fallen state due to the transgression after the similitude of Adam, to restore back to God.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                        Originally posted by TMarcum
                        Do you also believe the term Son's of God to refer to angels in Job 1:6? "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord"
                        I believe every use of the term "Bene-Elohim" in the OT refers to Divine Beings with none referring to mortal men.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                          Originally posted by Pesachpup View Post
                          I think every one knows that "begat/begot" refers to the offspring of men & women, AND that angels are never referred to as begotten. Therefore, we can conclude that there were no sons of God begotten before the 1st advent.
                          Here are the meaning of the word "begotten" Greek word "monogenes". So there are many offspring, but only one was "one of a kind".

                          So what does monogenes mean? According to the Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (BAGD, 3rd Edition), monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is its meaning in Hebrews 11:17 when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham's "only begotten son" (KJV). Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of the covenant. Therefore, it is the uniqueness of Isaac among the other sons that allows for the use of monogenes in that context.

                          The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16 (see also John 1:14, 18; 3:18; 1 John 4:9). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus is the Son of God (John 20:31), and he uses monogenes to highlight Jesus as uniquely God's Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God's sons and daughters by adoption (Ephesians 1:5). Jesus is God’s “one and only” Son.

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                          • #73
                            Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                            Originally posted by TMarcum View Post
                            You did not answer the question regarding sons of God who came to present themselves before the Lord. Satan that came in with them in Job, were not part of the group of the sons of God that went to worship God and make sacrifice offerings to him for Jobs sons. Satan has never worshiped God.
                            You lost me here can you clarify.

                            The also gave a reference in 1 Peter 3 where you provided scripture regarding Jesus preaching to imprisoned spirits. These were the souls of men who died during the time of Noah awaiting the Judgment of Christ. Christ preached to them when he spent 3 days in the heart of the earth when he was crucified, awaiting the resurrection of his body.
                            4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
                            5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;


                            God did not send his son Jesus to minister to fallen angels. They are not part of creation and were not given a living soul.
                            Are you saying fallen angels were never created? When do you think spirit beings (angels) were created?

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                            • #74
                              Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                              Originally posted by ross3421 View Post



                              4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
                              5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;


                              Are you saying fallen angels were never created? When do you think spirit beings (angels) were created?
                              God spared not the angels that sinned.
                              The assumption your making is, that these angels that sinned came to earth and lived on earth as humans mating with Women. The bible does not support this. We know that God is also God over the angels. But they are not part of human creation nor do they reproduce after their own kind. If so, they would reproduce with other angels, but absolutely not with mankind.

                              Are you saying fallen angels were never created?
                              Of course angels exist. Whether they were created, I don't know that the scriptures mention this. But we do know that they are spirits. And spirits do not have flesh and bone.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

                                Originally posted by TMarcum View Post
                                God spared not the angels that sinned.
                                The assumption your making is, that these angels that sinned came to earth and lived on earth as humans mating with Women. The bible does not support this. We know that God is also God over the angels. But they are not part of human creation nor do they reproduce after their own kind. If so, they would reproduce with other angels, but absolutely not with mankind.
                                Demonic angels can indwell flesh. Thus could not these angels indwelled men whom then had offspring with women?

                                Question would be does this then change DNA?

                                We do see another indwelling occurring just before Christ returns Rev chapter 9. "as in the days of Noah so shall the coming of the son of man be"

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