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  • ewq1938
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    I think it's pretty clear that Cain was Adam's literal son but was Satan's son in a spiritual sense. This concept of Satan having "seed" is found here:

    Gen 3:15* And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.*

    Mat 13:38* The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;*
    Mat 13:39* The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.*

    Again, in a spiritual sense not a physical sense.

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  • pdun459
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    It's not in the Bible, it's only a Jewish fable. "For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith, not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth."—Titus 1:13-14.

    In 1 John 3:12, Cain is described as being "of the evil one" because of his lack of faith. God considers unbelief and wickedness as one and the same. "And pray that we may be delivered from wicked and evil people, for not everyone has faith."—2 Thess. 3:2. And, "By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks."—Hebrews 11:4.

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  • jayne
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    Originally posted by Ezalpayne View Post
    I agree, cain was the son of the devil. So in Genesis 6 when it says the sons of God took the daughters of men. In the hebrew, that's "the daughters of adam" which means we are not talking about descendants of cain. We are talking about adams descendants.
    You are going to have to show where the Bible says that Cain was the "son of the devil" - either figuratively or literally. And don't cite 1 John 3:12. I cannot find in any translation where it says "son of ".

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  • Ezalpayne
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    Originally posted by Follower1977 View Post
    I think if one were to look at the first two men born you see how there's daughters of men, and also sons of God.

    Abel was a righteous man , Cain was an evil man.

    “Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.”
    **1 John‬ *3:12‬ *KJV‬‬


    In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
    **1 John‬ *3:10‬ *KJV‬‬


    so even as we see there Cain was a child of the devil, sinful man, Abel was a child of God, a righteous man. The reason the term son of God disappears and is rarely seen in scripture until Chrost came, is because all became sinners. During this time God had said this

    “How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

    They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

    I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”
    **Psalms‬ *82:2-7‬ *KJV‬‬

    men die because of sin, men live because of righteousness. Sons of God are the righteous men, sons of Satan are the evil men it was so then , and is so forever.

    “Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
    **Luke‬ *3:38‬ *KJV‬‬


    was true of man then and is true of man now

    “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.”
    **1 John‬ *3:1‬ *KJV‬‬

    remember regarding Gods image the scripture says clearly God was manifest in the flesh

    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
    **1 Timothy‬ *3:16‬ *KJV‬‬


    while God truly is a spirit, he manifest himself in man through Jesus Christ, and he manifests his image also throug us who believe the gospel, redeeming us to his image as man was in the beginning.

    “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
    **2 Corinthians‬ *4:4‬ *KJV‬‬

    “But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
    **2 Corinthians‬ *3:18‬ *KJV‬‬


    Gods word, is his image.
    I agree, cain was the son of the devil. So in Genesis 6 when it says the sons of God took the daughters of men. In the hebrew, that's "the daughters of adam" which means we are not talking about descendants of cain. We are talking about adams descendants.

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  • Ezalpayne
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    Originally posted by pdun459 View Post
    How do you interpret Genesis 4:1?
    "Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. . ."

    If this doesn't mean Cain was Adam's son, what then?
    Kinda like Genesis 22: 2 says " take your son, YOUR ONLY SON ISAAC!

    Now does this mean ishmael was fathered by satan? Of course not ot simply means that abrahams line is recognized through isaac.

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  • Ezalpayne
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    Originally posted by jayne View Post
    Genesis 4:1 - "And Adam had sexual relations with his wife, Eve, and she became pregnant and bore a son, Cain."

    Genesis 5:1 skips Cain and also skips Abel. It lists Seth as the son of Adam because this is the genealogy that leads to Christ.

    This isn't rocket science.

    I have moderated three posts and have run out of patience. NO MORE "Serpent Seed" doctrine or people will be directed elsewhere. Eve did NOT have sex with the devil.
    1st of all i was not trying to say eve had sex with the serpent AT ALL please DO NOT put words in my mouth. I was merely pointing out that the bible NEVER calls cain adams son which is a FACT. It does say he was the son of the devil 2ndly Actually that is incorrect. Genesis 5 says, " this is the book of the generations of Adam! Not jesus, it skips abel because he was KILLED and has no off spring

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  • jayne
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    Originally posted by Ezalpayne
    Cain is NEVER called adams son
    Genesis 4:1 - "And Adam had sexual relations with his wife, Eve, and she became pregnant and bore a son, Cain."

    Genesis 5:1 skips Cain and also skips Abel. It lists Seth as the son of Adam because this is the genealogy that leads to Christ.

    This isn't rocket science.

    I have moderated three posts and have run out of patience. NO MORE "Serpent Seed" doctrine or people will be directed elsewhere. Eve did NOT have sex with the devil.

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  • pdun459
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    Re: Who were The Sons of God in genesis 6?

    How do you interpret Genesis 4:1?
    "Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. . ."

    If this doesn't mean Cain was Adam's son, what then?

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  • Ezalpayne
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    Actually cain is never said to be adams son in the bible. the bible said cain is the son of his father the devil so the daughters of men can not be descended from adam

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  • Follower1977
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    Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
    15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    The above is not describing fleshly Jesus. He was firstborn but not as Jesus (flesh) but the word (spirit). Fleshly Jesus was the image of his parents while still being the son of God.

    No. God's image is spirit. Invisible. Thus for us to be made in his image would be as in spirit not flesh.

    Also God finished his creating after the first week he did not create afterwards. So for all his creation to be completed in the first week then then the creation on the 6th day was spirit form all whom where to live upon the earth. Hence why he knew us from the foundation of the world. We all were first created spirit then as a destined time formed into flesh by our parents. Being made in the image of God is a spirit.



    This was the 6th day and the 7th day God was finished creating. So were all flesh created this day? No all spirits whom would receive flesh. A baby is a formation of those things created in the first week. Not a new creation each time.




    So man was created on the 6th day. Above is not the 6th day but after the week. So here we see man now FORMED into flesh from the earth which was created the first week.

    Further evidence we were first create spirits in that in that day God called both male and female adam. Was not the first woman eve?

    Gen 5
    1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
    2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

    Also we see Seth not created in God's image but Adams.

    3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
    Spirit has no image friend, God is invisible....his image is manifest in righteous mankind, so is the image of Satan manifest in evil men.

    I'm sort of simple minded , scripture says of man several times they are sons of God, and it says never of the Angels ye are my sons....it also dostinguishes clearly between the righteous men being his sons, and wicked men not being his sons.

    but I feel as if I've left plenty of scripture to support my understanding, whether it's right or not, is up to the lord. God bless you

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  • Follower1977
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    Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
    No. God's image is spirit. Invisible. Thus for us to be made in his image would be as in spirit not flesh.

    Also God finished his creating after the first week he did not create afterwards. So for all his creation to be completed in the first week then then the creation on the 6th day was spirit form all whom where to live upon the earth. Hence why he knew us from the foundation of the world. We all were first created spirit then as a destined time formed into flesh by our parents. Being made in the image of God is a spirit.



    This was the 6th day and the 7th day God was finished creating. So were all flesh created this day? No all spirits whom would receive flesh. A baby is a formation of those things created in the first week. Not a new creation each time.




    So man was created on the 6th day. Above is not the 6th day but after the week. So here we see man now FORMED into flesh from the earth which was created the first week.

    Further evidence we were first create spirits in that in that day God called both male and female adam. Was not the first woman eve?

    Gen 5
    1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
    2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

    Also we see Seth not created in God's image but Adams.

    3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

    brother , Angels are not sons of God, it's simple.

    the image of God is man " God created man in his own image , in his likeness he created them both male and female"

    the image of God changed , because Adam consumed the knowledge of Good and evil and begat sinners. There's never any scripture to say " God created the Angels in his image and likeness" righteous man like Adam was before the knowledge of evil, that's the image of God. It's why Jesus is called " the second Adam" both men by the way ...

    Jesus Christ is the image of God, the difference between he and Adam is when Adam was tempted he sinned, Jesus was tempted and did no sin. The image of God, is roghteousness , holiness godliness....those things taught us in the gospel.

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  • Follower1977
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    Originally posted by Follower1977 View Post
    “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:”
    **Colossians‬ *1:13-15‬ *KJV‬‬

    I think if one were to look at the first two men born you see how there's daughters of men, and also sons of God.

    Abel was a righteous man , Cain was an evil man.

    “Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.”
    **1 John‬ *3:12‬ *KJV‬‬


    In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
    **1 John‬ *3:10‬ *KJV‬‬


    so even as we see there Cain was a child of the devil, sinful man, Abel was a child of God, a righteous man. The reason the term son of God disappears and is rarely seen in scripture until Chrost came, is because all became sinners. During this time God had said this

    “How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

    They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

    I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”
    **Psalms‬ *82:2-7‬ *KJV‬‬

    men die because of sin, men live because of righteousness. Sons of God are the righteous men, sons of Satan are the evil men it was so then , and is so forever.

    “Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
    **Luke‬ *3:38‬ *KJV‬‬


    was true of man then and is true of man now

    “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.”
    **1 John‬ *3:1‬ *KJV‬‬

    remember regarding Gods image the scripture says clearly God was manifest in the flesh

    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
    **1 Timothy‬ *3:16‬ *KJV‬‬


    while God truly is a spirit, he manifest himself in man through Jesus Christ, and he manifests his image also throug us who believe the gospel, redeeming us to his image as man was in the beginning.

    “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
    **2 Corinthians‬ *4:4‬ *KJV‬‬

    “But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
    **2 Corinthians‬ *3:18‬ *KJV‬‬


    Gods word, is his image.

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  • ross3421
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    Originally posted by Follower1977 View Post
    sure , Gods image is holiness manifest in the heart of man. Simpler Jesus is the image of God here what scripture says
    15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    The above is not describing fleshly Jesus. He was firstborn but not as Jesus (flesh) but the word (spirit). Fleshly Jesus was the image of his parents while still being the son of God.

    No. God's image is spirit. Invisible. Thus for us to be made in his image would be as in spirit not flesh.

    Also God finished his creating after the first week he did not create afterwards. So for all his creation to be completed in the first week then then the creation on the 6th day was spirit form all whom where to live upon the earth. Hence why he knew us from the foundation of the world. We all were first created spirit then as a destined time formed into flesh by our parents. Being made in the image of God is a spirit.

    “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
    This was the 6th day and the 7th day God was finished creating. So were all flesh created this day? No all spirits whom would receive flesh. A baby is a formation of those things created in the first week. Not a new creation each time.


    “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”
    **Genesis‬ *2:7‬ *KJV‬‬
    So man was created on the 6th day. Above is not the 6th day but after the week. So here we see man now FORMED into flesh from the earth which was created the first week.

    Further evidence we were first create spirits in that in that day God called both male and female adam. Was not the first woman eve?

    Gen 5
    1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
    2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

    Also we see Seth not created in God's image but Adams.

    3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

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  • ross3421
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    Originally posted by Follower1977 View Post
    .....how does an Angel a ministering spirit , breed with a human being ?
    How is God himself born of flesh and become man?

    We know angels in Sodom could have had sex...….there is much of the spirit world we do not know.

    Was not the angel of the Lord God himself?

    If God can be made a little lower than the angels can't God manifest himself in an angel? Note angel is a spirit being in which God was a spirit. Understanding there are created and non created angels.


    Furthermore, perhaps it is merely the angel, spirit, indwelling a vessel then having an offspring.

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  • Follower1977
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    “Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:”
    **Colossians‬ *1:13-15‬ *KJV‬‬

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