Most of you know by now that I like to think outside of the box, not that others don't as well. The following is some of my recent thinking in this manner. This specifically involves 2 Peter 3:8.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Suppose the text had said the following, meaning from our perspective.

that one day is with us as 24 hours, and 24 hours as one day.

In this example even though an 'as' is used, this clearly does not imply a simile, since this statement is literally true. If it's true in this example, the same has be true in 2 Peter 3:8, that it is meaning a day is literally one thousand years. But not a 24 hour day, but a period of time consisting of 1000 years being the day meant.

Let's examine some of this a little closer. Let's start with what I proposed in the beginning of this post, that if this was from our perspective instead.

that one day(24 hours) is with us as 24 hours(one day), and 24 hours(one day) as one day(24 hours).

Clearly, one day and 24 hours are referring to the same thing. Would anyone care to dispute that?

Now let's look at it from God's perspective in 2 Peter 3:8.

that one day(a thousand years) is with the Lord as a thousand years(one day), and a thousand years(one day) as one day(a thousand years).

Clearly, one day and a thousand years are referring to the same thing, the same way, assuming one never disputed the former, where I indicated that that one day and 24 hours, these are referring to the same thing.

It seems to me, in order to debunk the latter and prove it wrong, one must first successfully debunk the former and prove it wrong, since the former is what is actually proving the latter to be correct. In the former example one day can't mean anything but 24 hours. It for sure can't mean a thousand years since that would be contradicting the 24 hours that it means.

In the latter example one day can't mean anything but a thousand years. It for sure can't mean 24 hours since that would be contradicting the thousand years that it means.

Some mistakenly, including Premils, apparently think a 24 hour day is what is meant by one day in 2 Peter 3:8, but didn't I just prove above that that is not the case, but that it is meaning a thousand years and not 24 hours instead? For one day to mean 24 hours in 2 peter 3:8 makes nonsense of the text, the same way it would be making nonsense of the text in the example from our perspective if one day were to mean anything other than 24 hours.

If one still disagrees, regardless....then have it and debunk what I submitted, thus prove it wrong. I'm not interested in someone trying to prove it wrong with Scriptures, since Scriptures involve interpreting, and that not everyone might interpret the same Scriptures in the same manner. The only way to debunk and prove what I submitted is wrong, one first has to debunk and prove that the former example from our perspective, that it is incorrect.

If I am correct here, this undeniably proves that this thousand years in question are meaning a literal thousand years, which then means they are meaning a literal thousand years in Revelation 20. Which then means Amil can't possibly be the correct position since Amil can't even work if a literal thousand years are meant in Revelation 20. Don't let that distract anyone though, thus lose sight of what this thread is for. This thread is for debunking, thus proving what I propose is wrong, assuming you still disagree, which I'm certain Amils will, and maybe some Premils as well.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Suppose the text had said the following, meaning from our perspective.

that one day is with us as 24 hours, and 24 hours as one day.

In this example even though an 'as' is used, this clearly does not imply a simile, since this statement is literally true. If it's true in this example, the same has be true in 2 Peter 3:8, that it is meaning a day is literally one thousand years. But not a 24 hour day, but a period of time consisting of 1000 years being the day meant.

Let's examine some of this a little closer. Let's start with what I proposed in the beginning of this post, that if this was from our perspective instead.

that one day(24 hours) is with us as 24 hours(one day), and 24 hours(one day) as one day(24 hours).

Clearly, one day and 24 hours are referring to the same thing. Would anyone care to dispute that?

Now let's look at it from God's perspective in 2 Peter 3:8.

that one day(a thousand years) is with the Lord as a thousand years(one day), and a thousand years(one day) as one day(a thousand years).

Clearly, one day and a thousand years are referring to the same thing, the same way, assuming one never disputed the former, where I indicated that that one day and 24 hours, these are referring to the same thing.

It seems to me, in order to debunk the latter and prove it wrong, one must first successfully debunk the former and prove it wrong, since the former is what is actually proving the latter to be correct. In the former example one day can't mean anything but 24 hours. It for sure can't mean a thousand years since that would be contradicting the 24 hours that it means.

In the latter example one day can't mean anything but a thousand years. It for sure can't mean 24 hours since that would be contradicting the thousand years that it means.

Some mistakenly, including Premils, apparently think a 24 hour day is what is meant by one day in 2 Peter 3:8, but didn't I just prove above that that is not the case, but that it is meaning a thousand years and not 24 hours instead? For one day to mean 24 hours in 2 peter 3:8 makes nonsense of the text, the same way it would be making nonsense of the text in the example from our perspective if one day were to mean anything other than 24 hours.

If one still disagrees, regardless....then have it and debunk what I submitted, thus prove it wrong. I'm not interested in someone trying to prove it wrong with Scriptures, since Scriptures involve interpreting, and that not everyone might interpret the same Scriptures in the same manner. The only way to debunk and prove what I submitted is wrong, one first has to debunk and prove that the former example from our perspective, that it is incorrect.

If I am correct here, this undeniably proves that this thousand years in question are meaning a literal thousand years, which then means they are meaning a literal thousand years in Revelation 20. Which then means Amil can't possibly be the correct position since Amil can't even work if a literal thousand years are meant in Revelation 20. Don't let that distract anyone though, thus lose sight of what this thread is for. This thread is for debunking, thus proving what I propose is wrong, assuming you still disagree, which I'm certain Amils will, and maybe some Premils as well.

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