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  • #31
    He does... he is twelve, and often he sees things more clearly than I do. I don't know many born again Christian kids... but the ones I do know take their faith very simply, and feel it in a profound and deep way that I can only aspire to.
    Please could everyone pray for Mieke and Charles.

    My testimony http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthr...ight=testimony

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    • #32
      Indeed,...

      Originally posted by cwb View Post
      Though I am not investing in the stock market at this time, I definetly would not even consider judging any Christian who does. I think your judgemental attitude and calling anybody in the stock market an idolator is way over the top.
      ...The stock market is the reason many of us have jobs to begin with.

      It is the reason that we were able to defeat the evil Soviet Union.

      This reviled entity is the reason that we are rich enough to be a nation that "brings forth the fruits".

      MT 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

      And now, all that will be destroyed. It has begun.
      Last edited by dan; Mar 7th 2009, 11:12 PM. Reason: content
      JER 14:13 Then said I: 'Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them: Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.'
      JER 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me: 'The prophets prophesy lies in My name; I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke I unto them; they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their own heart.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by dan View Post
        And now, all that will be destroyed. It has begun.
        Its a testament to the unbelievably epic bull market we came out of to think that a large correction, even a large recession is the end.

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        • #34
          I personally don't think it's wise to sow into the world.

          When you cut away all of the fancy ribbons and bows, the naked stock market is basically that.

          Beloved, let us rather trust in God's riches by sowing into the Kingdom.


          1 Timothy 6:17 : "Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy."


          1 Timothy 6:9-10 : " But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

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          • #35
            And yet...

            Originally posted by JesusMySavior View Post
            I personally don't think it's wise to sow into the world.

            When you cut away all of the fancy ribbons and bows, the naked stock market is basically that.

            Beloved, let us rather trust in God's riches by sowing into the Kingdom.

            1 Timothy 6:17 : "Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy."

            1 Timothy 6:9-10 : " But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
            ...The riches provided allowed us to keep the evil Soviet System at bay. Now they will flourish, and with disastrous results. Here is our tribulation!

            Not wise? It was the only course possible!

            The love of money IS the root of all kinds of evil. Unfortunately, money is, also, the source of all kinds of good!
            JER 14:13 Then said I: 'Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them: Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.'
            JER 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me: 'The prophets prophesy lies in My name; I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke I unto them; they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their own heart.

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            • #36
              I think the 'Golden Calf' (personally) is Celebrity Worship. I mean millions of dollars are spent every week on tabloids, with people looking to get the scoop on their favorite celeberties, and countless hours of watching shows like Access Hollywood.

              Now I don't have an issue with celebrities... just the way they are placed on an alter, to be admired and adored.
              Prayer without faith, is like a car without an engine

              There are many roads to damnation, but only one Road to Salvation

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              • #37
                Originally posted by dan View Post
                ...The riches provided allowed us to keep the evil Soviet System at bay. Now they will flourish, and with disastrous results. Here is our tribulation!

                Not wise? It was the only course possible!

                The love of money IS the root of all kinds of evil. Unfortunately, money is, also, the source of all kinds of good!
                A slight correction. There is only one source of good, and that is Jesus. Money is a conduit through which good can flow, but it's not the source of good.

                Other than that, I take your point.
                Please could everyone pray for Mieke and Charles.

                My testimony http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthr...ight=testimony

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by daughter View Post
                  Guys, I saw a picture today that really chilled me, and thought I should post it here... it seems to me that there was prophecy in the article originally quoted. Many "Christians" even are deceived. Christians praying at wall street, laying hands on the statue of the bull
                  Daughter, that is a very disturbing image indeed! From reading some of the responses to your post, I see I'm not the only one who didn't know this bull existed. Thank you for posting this--it is an eye-opener!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by daughter View Post
                    It is terrifying. As an ex witch I know exactly what they are doing... they use the idol as a focal point for their spell, they raise energy, they even danced around it, circling it three times while singing. These are all things you would see happening in a coven. They prayed "God bless America," but I wish I knew what God they were praying to.

                    The whole thing is horrifying. I must admit, when I saw this picture, my blood ran cold. We're definitely in the midst of the great falling away.
                    One of my friends is a Wicca, and she is convinced that everybody will go to Heaven, regardless of what and as she put it, in her own words 'No loving God will ever send a person to hell'.

                    I have tried to talk with her then she gets mad and accuses me of being 'intolerant' of her beliefs.
                    Prayer without faith, is like a car without an engine

                    There are many roads to damnation, but only one Road to Salvation

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                    • #40
                      Just pray for her. Sometimes God will give you an opportunity to speak to her, sometimes He'll give others an opportunity to speak to her... the rest is between Him and her.

                      One of the defining moments before I became Christian was when a preacher I was playing online chess with told me that "at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, and every tongue confess..." My husband (an atheist) asked me "what did the God freak say?" And I blurted it out.

                      At which my husband went very quiet, looked away for a bit, then said the single strangest thing I ever heard him say: "I'm glad."

                      God is glorious... and powerful, and mighty to save. She's kicking against the knowledge of her own sin, so she won't accept that for there to be a heaven there has to be a hell. But give it to God, and wait on Him. See what He does about it.
                      Please could everyone pray for Mieke and Charles.

                      My testimony http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthr...ight=testimony

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                      • #41
                        Your...

                        Originally posted by daughter View Post
                        A slight correction. There is only one source of good, and that is Jesus. Money is a conduit through which good can flow, but it's not the source of good.

                        Other than that, I take your point.
                        ...Right, in a way. But, perhaps, money is a tool, like a gun. Whether it is good or evil depends on the purpose of the one who wields it.

                        And why would you call Jesus good if He would not describe Himself that way?

                        MK 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

                        Is it because He is better than all of us?
                        JER 14:13 Then said I: 'Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them: Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.'
                        JER 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me: 'The prophets prophesy lies in My name; I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke I unto them; they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their own heart.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by dan View Post
                          And why would you call Jesus good if He would not describe Himself that way?

                          MK 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

                          Is it because He is better than all of us?
                          Hi, Dan--Jesus is indeed good because He is God, and yes He is most definitely better than all of us. He was the only sinless, perfect man to ever have existed, which is why He was the only possible sacrifice to save mankind. He was the Word made flesh, both God and man at once.

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                          • #43
                            I just wanted to post a note to say that David Wilkerson is a fine man of God. I heard him speak as a child and he touched me way back then. I do wish him the very best in all his ministries.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by dan View Post
                              And why would you call Jesus good if He would not describe Himself that way?

                              MK 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
                              Jesus wasn't really saying that He wasn't good.
                              He was simply making a point.

                              For his audience to focus on the Father in Heaven, not on themselves in regards to righteousness.

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                              • #45
                                That ...

                                Originally posted by David Taylor View Post
                                Jesus wasn't really saying that He wasn't good.
                                He was simply making a point.

                                For his audience to focus on the Father in Heaven, not on themselves in regards to righteousness.
                                ...Sounds very right!

                                MT 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
                                MT 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
                                JER 14:13 Then said I: 'Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them: Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.'
                                JER 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me: 'The prophets prophesy lies in My name; I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke I unto them; they prophesy unto you a lying vision, and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their own heart.

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