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    I was just writing a note to another member here on this post. Discussing the end times and Satan being cast out of heaven and something accured to me. At the time of the flood the earth opened up and spewed out water and the heavens opened up and rain was poured out upon the earth. In the end times the earth will spew out something more sinister and the heavens will pour down something more sinister.

    Revelation 9:1-3
    1 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.


    What is released out of this pit so as to make the sun dark? Demons were released millions of them. Demons now walk the earth not just a few millions and they have power to harm man but not take their life, just like Satan had the power to harm Job but not take his life.

    Then the heavens spewed out its sinister rain. It rained down Satan and the rest of his demons, no longer could Satan enter heaven to accuse the brethren for there was no place found for him in heaven.

    Revelation 12:7-12
    7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
    10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

    Now we have millions upon millions of demons on the earth causing havoc. I am glad I will not be here at that time.
    John 8:31-32



    31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”


    Dizzy

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    Amen. Not many realize the relevance of the verses in Revelation Chapter 12.
    Whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus

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    • #3
      I am wondering if cern's large collider may be the key to unlocking this pit.

      Anyone ever see their logo? It is most curious.


      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../CERN_logo.svg

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      • #4
        Quoting Dizzy - What is released out of this pit so as to make the sun dark? Demons were released millions of them. Demons now walk the earth not just a few millions and they have power to harm man but not take their life, just like Satan had the power to harm Job but not take his life.

        I sure like this comparison - thanks
        Whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rookie78 View Post
          I am wondering if cern's large collider may be the key to unlocking this pit.

          Anyone ever see their logo? It is most curious.


          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../CERN_logo.svg

          I don't think so, because what unlocks the pit comes from heaven not from within the earth.
          John 8:31-32



          31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”


          Dizzy

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rookie78 View Post
            I am wondering if cern's large collider may be the key to unlocking this pit.

            Anyone ever see their logo? It is most curious.


            http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../CERN_logo.svg


            Nothing really stands out about that logo.
            Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left

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            • #7
              Originally posted by helios View Post
              Nothing really stands out about that logo.
              Maybe you need to take another look?


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              • #8
                Colossians 1:17 says that He is before all things and in Him all things hold together.

                The Cern experiment is to find out what holds things together (protons in the nuclei of atoms). Also it is to find out what gives the elementary particles mass. Protons are all +positively charged which means that they should push each other apart, but they don't!

                Maybe forcing these particles apart opens a new dimension that lets something sinister into this world. Or maybe I just watch too much sci-fi.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rookie78 View Post
                  I am wondering if cern's large collider may be the key to unlocking this pit.

                  Anyone ever see their logo? It is most curious.





                  *gulp* Thanks for pointing that out Rookie. Scary!!! (it's triple [or quadruple] sixes btw)


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DIZZY View Post
                    I was just writing a note to another member here on this post. Discussing the end times and Satan being cast out of heaven and something accured to me. At the time of the flood the earth opened up and spewed out water and the heavens opened up and rain was poured out upon the earth. In the end times the earth will spew out something more sinister and the heavens will pour down something more sinister.
                    There is nothing sinister in Heaven and never ever was--

                    Mat 6:9 Therefore pray in this way: Our Father, who is in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name.
                    Mat 6:10 Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.

                    Revelation 9:1-3
                    1 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit. 3 Then out of the smoke locusts came upon the earth. And to them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.


                    What is released out of this pit so as to make the sun dark? Demons were released millions of them. Demons now walk the earth not just a few millions and they have power to harm man but not take their life, just like Satan had the power to harm Job but not take his life.
                    There are no demons to be released from the pit, but restraint of the wickedness of certain ungodly men can be removed, so that the punishment and destruction of the disobedient who claim to know better can begin.

                    Then the heavens spewed out its sinister rain. It rained down Satan and the rest of his demons, no longer could Satan enter heaven to accuse the brethren for there was no place found for him in heaven.
                    The only way that satan accuses the brethren before God is when the believers sin willingly and therefore invite satan to be among them when they present themselves to God in their assemblies. (as in Job ch 1.)



                    Revelation 12:7-12
                    7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
                    10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

                    Now we have millions upon millions of demons on the earth causing havoc. I am glad I will not be here at that time.
                    Only if you should die before this occurs will you not see the day of it, for these live who overcome satan through the blood of the Lamb, the word of testimony , and not loving ones life even to death.

                    If we reflect on the events of the early church then we will recognize that this has occurred in the past, and also throughout the world since in various places, even is a message to ones personal situation, but to occur in a major way in the end.

                    The "heaven" in the verses means in the spiritual realms on earth and is not speaking of The Heaven where Christ now resides bodily with God.


                    Merton.
                    One can know a lot about the Bible and still not live righteously. Mat ch 23.

                    A little knowledge lived rightly is better that much knowledge lived wrongly.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DIZZY View Post
                      I don't think so, because what unlocks the pit comes from heaven not from within the earth.
                      I do not think Satan unlocks the pit? This would mean the angel of the lord hands them over to him..........

                      Re 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

                      Satan is already in the pit when it is being unlocked.

                      Re 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

                      Remember these are God's plagues being unleashed.......I do not think Satan would cause plagues upon his own kingdom.


                      Mark

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Merton View Post
                        There is nothing sinister in Heaven and never ever was--

                        Mat 6:9 Therefore pray in this way: Our Father, who is in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name.
                        Mat 6:10 Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven.



                        There are no demons to be released from the pit, but restraint of the wickedness of certain ungodly men can be removed, so that the punishment and destruction of the disobedient who claim to know better can begin.



                        The only way that satan accuses the brethren before God is when the believers sin willingly and therefore invite satan to be among them when they present themselves to God in their assemblies. (as in Job ch 1.)





                        Only if you should die before this occurs will you not see the day of it, for these live who overcome satan through the blood of the Lamb, the word of testimony , and not loving ones life even to death.

                        If we reflect on the events of the early church then we will recognize that this has occurred in the past, and also throughout the world since in various places, even is a message to ones personal situation, but to occur in a major way in the end.

                        The "heaven" in the verses means in the spiritual realms on earth and is not speaking of The Heaven where Christ now resides bodily with God.


                        Merton.
                        If there are no demon in the pit, then what spirits are these.

                        1 Peter 3:18-20
                        For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water.
                        John 8:31-32



                        31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”


                        Dizzy

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crush View Post
                          *gulp* Thanks for pointing that out Rookie. Scary!!! (it's triple [or quadruple] sixes btw)
                          Only if you re-arrange it, add to it, subtract from it, and basically do everything in your power to interpret it like that.

                          A six looks like this: " 6 "

                          If you turn it upside down, its not an "upside down six", its a 9. If you lay it on its side, its not a six, its a circle with a tail.
                          If you draw a circle and add a bunch of trails, you aren't making "a bunch of sixes", you're just drawing a single circle with a bunch of trails.

                          And even if we do accept wild interpretations of the image in such a manner, I count no less than FIVE 6's if we allow one transformation per trailing line.

                          So just so I'm sure... is the number of the beast 666, or is it any weird iteration of "6" we see, or sorta see, or don't see at all?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
                            I do not think Satan unlocks the pit? This would mean the angel of the lord hands them over to him..........

                            Re 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

                            Satan is already in the pit when it is being unlocked.

                            Re 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

                            Remember these are God's plagues being unleashed.......I do not think Satan would cause plagues upon his own kingdom.


                            Mark
                            Hi Mark,
                            What makes you say Satan is already in the pit. The bible tells us he roams about ready to devour us and reports before God and accuses the brethren day and night.

                            Revelation 12:10
                            Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

                            Satan is cast down to the earth here, not into a pit of any sort and he can not be in two places at once.

                            Another verse tells us that Satan is not bound until the Lord returns for the 1000 year reign.

                            Revelation 20:1-3
                            1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
                            John 8:31-32



                            31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, “If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. 32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”


                            Dizzy

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                            • #15
                              I doubt that this smoke is in fact "Demons" or merely describing a the consequences of this star's impact with earth.

                              Also, if I might conjecture. A star being thrown to the earth (and seems to impact) could likely be a comet. a Comet shines and is fairly bright. If it did strike deeply enough it could break through the earth's crust and the result would spew smoke as a volcano being formed.


                              If that is what is being described, then one of the things that accompany large eruptions of volcanoes is Sulfur or other gasses which can poison, or even kill those who breath it. Also if an eruption were large enough, it could in fact cover the earth with enough ash and soot as to darken the sky.


                              Now it says locusts come out of the smoke. It is being inferred that they were hidden in the earth. I know that the Locusts around here tend to bury themselves in the ground, so it could be that this action awakens these locust. Elsewhere in Revelation John talks about a Mountain that he sees thrust into the seas, the only thing we know of that could compare would be an Asteroid. I'm not sure that the people of John's day had the knowledge of what comets and asteroids were. In fact, its likely they even thought near earth planets like Venus and Mars were stars as well.

                              I'm not sure that I'd assume that this blackness is demons though. Perhaps the Locusts are, but I'm not sure you can infer that from this passage.

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