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    The sun relects upon the moon thus we see the moon bright at night. So is the moon becoming blood a relection of the sun????

    Re 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

    Re 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    So we have the sun blackened by the angel standing in the midst like an eclipse, the moon will relect the red of the vesture of the one standing. And yes, Christ does appear as an angel, angel of the Lord (spirit apart from flesh) upon his return.


    Mark

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    I thought that had happened in the XVIII or XIX century....



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    • #3
      Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
      The sun relects upon the moon thus we see the moon bright at night. So is the moon becoming blood a relection of the sun????

      Re 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

      Re 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

      So we have the sun blackened by the angel standing in the midst like an eclipse, the moon will relect the red of the vesture of the one standing. And yes, Christ does appear as an angel, angel of the Lord (spirit apart from flesh) upon his return.


      Mark
      The blood moon is in Revelation 6, not 19.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Literalist-Luke View Post
        The blood moon is in Revelation 6, not 19.
        Do not get caught up in that it is chapters apart as Rev overlaps much it is the same event. We also se the moon turning to blood as Christ returns in Matt 24. Does the moon turned to blood twice?

        Mt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

        Mt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

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        • #5
          Hi Mark,
          Particulate matter in the air would have this effect. google
          It would also reduce the sunlight which reaches the earth.

          My speculation as to the cause of this particulate matter, would be volcanic activity or something similar.

          Richard

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          • #6
            lunar eclipses are also called blood moons....

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            • #7
              Much volcanic ash in the air can also cause the moon to appear red.
              I've seen it happen some months after a volcanoe erupted in the western state of Washington, when I was all the way over in Michigan.
              Don't seek too much knowledge. You just may be putting more weight on your shoulders than you're able to bare. Let God be the one to decide how quickly you grow.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
                The sun relects upon the moon thus we see the moon bright at night. So is the moon becoming blood a relection of the sun????

                Re 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

                Re 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

                So we have the sun blackened by the angel standing in the midst like an eclipse, the moon will relect the red of the vesture of the one standing. And yes, Christ does appear as an angel, angel of the Lord (spirit apart from flesh) upon his return.


                Mark
                Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
                Do not get caught up in that it is chapters apart as Rev overlaps much it is the same event. We also se the moon turning to blood as Christ returns in Matt 24. Does the moon turned to blood twice?

                Mt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

                Mt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
                Oh, I see what you're saying now. Sorry, it was late when I made that previous post and it must've gone in one eye and out the other.

                I think you bring up a very interesting point here.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
                  Do not get caught up in that it is chapters apart as Rev overlaps much it is the same event. We also se the moon turning to blood as Christ returns in Matt 24. Does the moon turned to blood twice?

                  Mt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

                  Mt 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

                  Well, you can't leave out these....
                  Joel 2:31The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

                  Joe 3:15The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

                  Isa 13:10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

                  Isa 60:19The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

                  Act 2:20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:


                  The phrase appears all throughout the Bible, Including the Old Testament. It doesn't necessarily pertain to Christ's "Secong Coming". It's common Judgement Language.
                  Anytime you see this in scripture, look at the context of the chapter. You'll find it's in conjunction with God warning people of impending judgment.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by firebird
                    19:17 I saw an angel standing in the sun. He cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the sky, "Come! Be gathered together to the great supper of God,



                    The angel in the sun represents the higher spiritual sun manifest in your new mind.

                    Birds have a dual meaning in biblical scripture.

                    But when speaking of the lower mind, birds are symbols of all those thoughts that arise out of the lower mind and fly around in the recesses of your consciousness.


                    These birds will no longer fly, as their wings will be clipped, and note that there be a last supper.


                    The supper is a symbol of the lower mind transforming into the new mind.


                    We symbolically take our last fling with the desires of this world, this kingdom, we must enjoy it, like an inmate sitting on death row, and having his last meal, before going into the execution chamber, savors his last requested meal.


                    Then it's over.

                    The angel standing on the sun

                    The symbol "solar body" typifies transcendence. Transcendence means a fuller and more complete realization of human nature. This is very subtle. What is transcended is the limited point of view, not the physical and temporal world of experience.


                    The particular and personal point of view of ego consciousness is a limited and limiting point of view. That is what is transcended. Transcendence of the particular and personal, however, does not obliterate the particular and the personal.

                    Self, no longer identified by its individuality with a particular human physical body, does not then quit the physical body. No longer identified with a particular and personal point of view, in other words with a specific human psyche, self does not abandon the personal point of view.


                    Self transcends the limitations imposed upon its awareness by the particular and the specific. But it remains both particular and specific.

                    Self, no longer identified with the sex of a particular body, or in other words eros, and a particular personal point of view, or in other words amor, does not obliterate sex in the particular and the personal. Just the opposite.


                    Self realizes in its fullness that its very nature, which is ecstasy, expresses itself in the sexuality of the particular and the personal. It realizes that the polarity of sex is the dynamic mode of its creativity.




                    19:18 that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave, and small and great."




                    To eat is a symbol of the acquisition of knowledge as sustenance for the mind by means of sensation and experience. In the higher sense, the recognition of spiritual food which is Wisdom, truth and love.


                    So this new consciousness eats up the things of the lower mind, the flesh of the kings, captains and mighty men. All of the old lower mind thoughts that arose out of the ego, lower mind.


                    And of course the horses, those three great horses, we already discussed.


                    In other words every part of the lower consciousness is consumed by the higher consciousness, all these lower things are eaten up.


                    Free and slaves are all of the thoughts that were held captive by the lower mind quality.



                    Small and great, the same thing. Everything, all lower qualities are consumed and swallowed up by the higher god state.




                    19:19 I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him who sat on the horse, and against his army.




                    Again we just see a replete of earlier symbolism, the lower mind still tires to hold on to it's seat of power, and continues to make war with the higher consciousness (the white horse), the Christ consciousness.



                    19:20 The beast was taken, and with him the false prophet who worked the signs in his sight, with which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.



                    The beast (the lower ego mind), and the false prophet, the emotional nature, the two witnesses, but in a lower sense, deceived the mind that received the mark, as we already discussed.


                    Of course these two false witnesses are thrown into the lake of fire or furnace, the fornix of the brain, which burns with sulfur.


                    sulfur represents that stench, that comes from this lower mind quality.



                    (Mark meaning here the image that is raised by the individual in its imaginative and impulse force), in this case a negative image of self.


                    The mark of the lower mind type, the group, religion etc..


                    firebird

                    There is NOTHING Biblical about what you said. This is all a mixture of "New Age" & "Eastern Mysticism"..... something straight out of the Oprah Winfrey book of the month club.

                    Not to mention it was "copy/pasted" from another source.
                    Two posts, two minutes apart, as long as they are.....?

                    C'Mon!
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                    • #11
                      firebird, you call yourself a Christian, but you also call the Bible mythology. Can you explain that?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by markdrums View Post
                        There is NOTHING Biblical about what you said. This is all a mixture of "New Age" & "Eastern Mysticism"..... something straight out of the Oprah Winfrey book of the month club.

                        Not to mention it was "copy/pasted" from another source.
                        Two posts, two minutes apart, as long as they are.....?

                        C'Mon!
                        Apparently his posts were removed ...wonder why?

                        He must have gotten this board confused with Oprah's...
                        "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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                        • #13
                          Blood moons do occur during lunar eclipses. Pretty sure it appears red as we see reflections of the impurities of our own atmosphere.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by moonglow View Post
                            Apparently his posts were removed ...wonder why?

                            He must have gotten this board confused with Oprah's...
                            I wonder why they didn't also remove the posts (including mine) that were in response. Oh well.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Elouise View Post
                              Blood moons do occur during lunar eclipses. Pretty sure it appears red as we see reflections of the impurities of our own atmosphere.
                              Yes, you're exactly right, but here's the $1,000,000.00 question : The Biblical passages in question also say the sun goes dark as well. Yet the red appearance of the moon during a lunar eclipse is still dependent on the sun's light being refracted around the earth through our atmosphere, just as you describe. So if the sun appears to go dark all over the entire earth, as the Bible describes, which would also have to include the side facing the sun, then where does the moon's red light come from? That's the $1,000,000.00 question.
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