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    Slynx, Luke, you here?
    "It is when the people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." --Patrick Henry

    His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

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    I'm getting in bed, but post whatcha wanna talk about, and we'll have it tomorrow, er uh, later today.
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    • #3
      Yeah Luke, you said:
      Originally posted by Luke
      That (the apostacy) will not happen until the Antichrist is already on the scene.
      I believe that it may be important to 'iron' this out.

      By the words 'on the scene' do you mean when he is 'revealed' or that time before his being revealed when he is unknown.

      If I read the Scriptures aright, I think (that means I'm not sure) that it will be the apostacy itself that will bring on the 'man of sin'.
      "It is when the people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." --Patrick Henry

      His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

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        Originally posted by Lou M. View Post
        By the words 'on the scene' do you mean when he is 'revealed' or that time before his being revealed when he is unknown.

        If I read the Scriptures aright, I think (that means I'm not sure) that it will be the apostacy itself that will bring on the 'man of sin'.
        I'm saying it could happen after he becomes a prominent world figure, but before he declares himself "god", but it might not be until he declares himself "god" and "proves" it with the miraculous signs we are told about in II Thessalonians 2 and Revelation 13. (The ones in Revelation 13 are performed by his sidekick, the "False Prophet".)
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        • #5
          So, I beleive that we're in agreement with that pattern of occurrence given by Jesus and Paul, and held by the early church fathers:

          1) The Apostacy
          2) Revealing of the 'man of sin'
          3) Great Tribulation by the 'man of sin'
          4) Jesus coming at the Day of the Lord.
          "It is when the people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." --Patrick Henry

          His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lou M. View Post
            So, I beleive that we're in agreement with that pattern of occurrence given by Jesus and Paul, and held by the early church fathers:

            1) The Apostacy
            2) Revealing of the 'man of sin'
            3) Great Tribulation by the 'man of sin'
            4) Jesus coming at the Day of the Lord.
            With the possibility of some overlapping between the first two, yes, we're on the same page.
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            When the plain sense of Scripture make sense, seek no other sense.

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