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    Hello brothers and sisters of Christ,

    Forgive me if I sound like a kook, but from what I have been hearing about our now president Barrack Obama is that he is a communist and he is going to cause a persecution of Christians in this nation. I hope and pray for the revival of America and that she will turn back to God, but with the favor of abortion and electing Barrack Obama knowing he is going to bring back partial birth abortion, I guess we can just look up and rejoice that our saviors second coming is sooner than we thought. Pray for America, we need it now more than ever.

  • #2
    I don't think your a kook. I have been feeling the same way. I do think America is getting what it deserves now. We have turned our backs on God and now we are paying. When I hear about how Elizabeth Dole lost because she "invoked the name of God" , I shuddered. We are
    sacrificing babies, legalizing gay unions (which opens the door to teaching our kids in school that its ok). Even allowing gays to serve in clergy.
    Its time for true followers to stand up.
    Now what is gonna happen to christians today? Now American christians will know what persecution is like.
    God have mercy on us,
    J.

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    • #3
      What proof is there that God continues to punish entire nations?

      Didn't God stop punishing nations for their evil doing once Christ came and fulfilled the law?

      Why is God going to punish the USA for just Obama's opinion on abortion? Doesn't God place people in positions of authority and aren't we told to obey that authority?

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      • #4
        Persecution is going on all over the world. If we as Americans come under persecution then what would make us different than the rest? We have enjoyed for so long the blessings God has bestowed on us and we have become comfortable. I'm not saying don't pray, believe me I am.
        Persecution does not mean the end is here. It means we need to stand up and speak the name of Jesus Christ as Lord boldly.
        .................The message of the cross divides the human race." ~MW~

        ........ ... " LORD, I beseech thee, let now thine ear be attentive to the prayer of thy servant..."
        .................................................. .................................................. ...Nehemiah 1:11a



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        • #5
          There was a thread that was moved to "elections" - I can't find that thread - where is it???

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          • #6
            Well...

            I'm not sure America going to get attack persecuted by Barack Obama, I heard from certain sources he was supported by terrorist groups...so hope situation will be better.
            http://newsbusters.org/blogs/john-st...terrorist-ties
            http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2...iam-ayers.html
            Last edited by Kudo Shinichi; Nov 5th 2008, 06:13 PM. Reason: Adding link
            Shinjitsu wa itsumo hitotsu
            2 Timothy 3:16 Jehovah Jireh Matthew 6:33

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mfowler12 View Post
              What proof is there that God continues to punish entire nations?
              Ahem - Nazi Germany, 1945.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by mfowler12 View Post
                What proof is there that God continues to punish entire nations?

                Didn't God stop punishing nations for their evil doing once Christ came and fulfilled the law?

                Why is God going to punish the USA for just Obama's opinion on abortion? Doesn't God place people in positions of authority and aren't we told to obey that authority?
                What proof is there God ever stopped punishing nations or that the first advent stopped the same? The fate of Babylon in the book of Revelation would indicate the exact opposite.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Literalist-Luke View Post
                  Ahem - Nazi Germany, 1945.
                  One could argue that what happened then is what opened the door for the Israelites to get their land back. Thoughts?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thepenitent View Post
                    What proof is there God ever stopped punishing nations or that the first advent stopped the same? The fate of Babylon in the book of Revelation would indicate the exact opposite.
                    Only one could know that answer, God. I have not seen any evidence that points in either direction but I believe that God no longer punishes nations; now He judges people by their hearts.

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                    • #11
                      One of the things I've been saying for a while now is, God doesn't bless a particular piece of real estate called America. He blessed the believers who happened to live with in the boundaries of that piece of real estate. Where there are many believers praying and seeking God's guidance, there will be blessing; where there are few believers there will be less blessing.
                      I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
                      - Mahatma Gandhi



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                      • #12
                        Today is a great day to be an American.

                        The 2008 Presidential Election is now over. The American people – more than 117 million of them – went to the polls yesterday and expressed their collective political will. No one forced them. There was no compulsion. There were no armed soldiers at the polling places. Except for a limited number of crackpots, there were no threats or efforts to intimidate voters. We – the People – chose.

                        And, as happens every election cycle, we have now transferred control of the mightiest war machine the world has ever known, the most flexible and resilient economy, the most devastating nuclear arsenal, the most generous and longsuffering legal code, to a new executive in chief. Our military, of whatever political persuasion, will salute and call him – properly – Mr. President, the Commander in Chief. Senator John McCain will return to his job in the Senate, and appropriately, will call Mr. Obama “Mr. President”, and seek to work with him in service for the good of the American people.

                        This election, perhaps more so than any in recent history, shows that our Founding Fathers had wisdom beyond their years and experience, and created a governmental system that is without equal in the world. Sure, it has it faults. It is still subject to greed, lust for power, self-indulgence. But it is still America. No other country in the world has to build walls to keep people out.

                        Many of my evangelical and Republican friends are wringing their hands today, predicting the end of the world as we know it, anointing President-elect Obama as the AntiChrist, miserable and heart-broken and in despair. For my friends who find themselves in this stance, I offer a few thoughts.

                        God is God. President-elect Obama is not. (And yes, patriots and brothers and sisters, he deserves the courtesy and honor of the title. Calling him names is beneath your status as an ambassador for Christ.) He will have some success. He will have some failure. Our economy, our society, our infrastructure, our systems – all will continue to function.

                        The unnatural adoration on the left and the unnecessary distress on the right demonstrates to me that when any of us, Republic or Democrat, place our hope in government, we will fail. Our hope in the Christ, not in political power. Whether bond or free, master or slave, rich or poor, our source of supply is God and God alone.

                        So take heart, my friends. In whatever we do today, or tomorrow, or four years from now, we should enjoy the goodness of God in the land of the living, we should rejoice in our freedom in Him, and we should remember that we are only stewards of the whole. In whatever we do, whether we eat or drink or play or work or worship or vote or rest or fight to present our opinion of proper governance and public policy, we should do so with thanksgiving, joy, and to God’s glory.

                        So congratulations to President-elect Obama and Vice-President Elect Biden. I will pray for you, as my faith teaches me. I will pray that God gives you wisdom beyond your experience and learning. I will pray that the Holy Spirit speaks to you in the quiet moments. I will pray for your success. I will pray for your health. I will pray that you will have moral courage and sound judgment. I will pray for your safety, for your families, and for all that are placed under your stewardship.

                        God bless you, President-elect Obama. May God cause his face to shine upon you, and give you peace.

                        And may God continue to bless these United States of America.

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                        • #13
                          I would just like to add everyone is saying we are to obey his authority which I will but Gods word is above the law and the minute he wants me to bow down to his(obamas) authority and it crosses what my bible says not gonna happen basically I am keeping God at the top and as my authority I hope that makes sense!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Romans8:15 View Post
                            I would just like to add everyone is saying we are to obey his authority which I will but Gods word is above the law and the minute he wants me to bow down to his(obamas) authority and it crosses what my bible says not gonna happen basically I am keeping God at the top and as my authority I hope that makes sense!
                            AMEN. To follow the rules of the government is good and necessary. However, the Bible trumps everything.

                            A good example would be in the book of Acts when the Pharisees told Peter and John not to preach Jesus anymore. Of course, they did anyway - and thank the Lord for that

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mfowler12 View Post
                              One could argue that what happened then is what opened the door for the Israelites to get their land back. Thoughts?
                              Oh, I don't think there's any doubt about it, just as there can also be little doubt that God "judged" Germany for attempting to annihilate His people.
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