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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGpIT...?autoplay=true

    In today's Change.gov YouTube video, President-Elect Obama sounded off on a few tech ideas that have, frankly, been a long time coming. He notes that the States ranks 15th in the world in broadband adoption, and lays out his plan to bring networking to all public domains.Usually, Obama tosses in a mention or two about how important technology is, but today, we really see what he plans to do. He pledges to have broadband internet access available to all Americans, and promises to bring networked access to every doctor's office, public school, and hospital. Part of Obama's economic recovery plan will go directly to modernizing public hospitals, first and foremost to digitize all medical records.
    He does leave out certain important concepts, most importantly how he's going to pay for all this, and I'm unclear on how exactly he plans to force ISPs into reaching into parts of the country where they can't turn a profit.

    To me it sounds like the end times era because of all teh technology and then sooner or later you will get chips or a 'mark' essentially that you use to pay for your food and buy stuff with, which is just another way of the government to watch you.

    Am I completely wrong on this or does it sound like this is where we are heading?
    Kudos to Quiet Dove and Xel Nagga for their continuous support with my questions on baptism and all sorts of stuff.

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    It seems that we are having more technology and less privacy shoved down our throats because it is a good thing for us. The only way you can control people is to know what they are doing. Their money, food and health have to be under the authority of those who want control, but knowing what people are doing is priority for control.


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    • #3
      So, you agree? Its almost scary to think about.
      Kudos to Quiet Dove and Xel Nagga for their continuous support with my questions on baptism and all sorts of stuff.

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      • #4
        Just my two cents but, maybe the mark mentioned in people's foreheads and hands are them doing work for the devil's cause or church, rather than something physical implanted into our skin?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by InSchoolStudy View Post
          So, you agree? Its almost scary to think about.
          I think there is going to be some type of mark that is representing a persons loyalty to the AC, who they believe to be a god, or god. I don't thing that the chips will necessarily be "the mark", but a handy way to keep up and have more control because they could know where you are, what you are doing, a good way for folks to loose their privacy. But "the mark" will have to be more than that, though including that. I feel like "the mark" will be taken willingly and will indicate ones loyalty to the false and denial of the Truth. However, like I said, a micro chip would sure make it easier to keep up with who is loyal and who is not. Keeping up with who is doing what and control.


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          • #6
            So we ( in your perspective ) would not be forced to take the mark? Just pointing this out because in every day life I have, well not denied Christ but, not brought him up when when its religion talk or what ever, but like, being executed or taking the mark I dont think I would take it but I dont you... eh might not know what im saying.
            Kudos to Quiet Dove and Xel Nagga for their continuous support with my questions on baptism and all sorts of stuff.

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            • #7
              I agree, very true about our privacy being submitted more and more these days for the govt. sake. The new apple i phone lets you know where your friends are at. Which if they already have that technology for everyday Americans, it makes you think what the more well funded govt. has up their sleeves. All in all though, God is in control. Amen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by InSchoolStudy View Post
                So we ( in your perspective ) would not be forced to take the mark? Just pointing this out because in every day life I have, well not denied Christ but, not brought him up when when its religion talk or what ever, but like, being executed or taking the mark I dont think I would take it but I dont you... eh might not know what im saying.
                I feel like it would be defeating the purpose of the mark if we were forced to do so. Plus, how could God penalize us if we were held down and "marked".

                Satan wants to be God, he wants followers and worship. So the mark separates those who are willing to worship him, sell their soul for their physical life (including food or not getting their head chopped off) from those who refuse to worship him and sell their souls.

                There will be much deception, deep deception. Taking the mark, I think, will be a statement of defiance and rejection of Jesus Christ and acceptance of what ever nonsense the AC is preaching, which at some point will be he is God and people will be so far deep into deception they will, in their minds, be taking the mark of God, not an AC or the devil, (as in bad guy). They will think he is great and choose to worship him and thus take his mark.

                But those who refuse, will die.


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bthafree View Post
                  I agree, very true about our privacy being submitted more and more these days for the govt. sake. The new apple i phone lets you know where your friends are at. Which if they already have that technology for everyday Americans, it makes you think what the more well funded govt. has up their sleeves. All in all though, God is in control. Amen
                  Yea, really, wonder if they are reading this?


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bthafree View Post
                    Just my two cents but, maybe the mark mentioned in people's foreheads and hands are them doing work for the devil's cause or church, rather than something physical implanted into our skin?
                    Correct. Do we think those accepting the mark believe they are accepting the mark of Satan and are forced to take it? No. They will wilingly take the mark becuase they believe it is the mark of God and with it comes all riches. Remember the one giving the mark claims to be God. But they are lacking the spirit and rather want to gain the whole world but in fact are losing their soul. As you rightly describe they will become Satan's ie. church but believe they are God's church.

                    Truthfully, I am not yet sure what the mark will be but it will not be a micro chip. You can't worship a chip. Actually chip technology is good advancement for the future but many will say this is the mark however this is not the case.

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                    • #11
                      The govt. can't hurt us, Psalm 56:11 says. . . "In God have I put my trust: I will not be afraid what man can do unto me." If we have to die for the sake of Jesus being our Savior, then so be it, because Jesus died for us, the least we could do is show the devil that we will refuse until the last breath and in doing so, glorify God and Jesus. Amen

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by quiet dove View Post
                        I think there is going to be some type of mark that is representing a persons loyalty to the AC, who they believe to be a god, or god. I don't thing that the chips will necessarily be "the mark", but a handy way to keep up and have more control because they could know where you are, what you are doing, a good way for folks to loose their privacy. But "the mark" will have to be more than that, though including that. I feel like "the mark" will be taken willingly and will indicate ones loyalty to the false and denial of the Truth. However, like I said, a micro chip would sure make it easier to keep up with who is loyal and who is not. Keeping up with who is doing what and control.
                        Will there need to be "control" once all those which reject it are done away? Meaning those remaining will be as one with the king. Likewise in the true kingdom of God......

                        Also, many see a need for the mark as "control" becuase they see the landscape as today, with population scattered across the globe. However, I see when the time of Babylon arises population is centrally located around the city which all inhabinants will come to this city on the sabbath to worship the king. Another clue is that we see this city in the midst of a wilderness.


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                        • #13
                          Not really relevant , but isn't this going backwards in technology? Everything is going wireless nowadays , and the mark most likely will involve wireless technology too.

                          Every year here in SA the price of wireless goes down so at the moment its just as cheap to surf the internet through a cellphone simcard than though the phone network.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ross3421 View Post
                            Will there need to be "control" once all those which reject it are done away? Meaning those remaining will be as one with the king. Likewise in the true kingdom of God......

                            Also, many see a need for the mark as "control" becuase they see the landscape as today, with population scattered across the globe. However, I see when the time of Babylon arises population is centrally located around the city which all inhabinants will come to this city on the sabbath to worship the king. Another clue is that we see this city in the midst of a wilderness.


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                            The powers that be will still want to control their "loyal" subjects. If for no other reason than no more cheating on taxes. For example.


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                            • #15
                              The Internet is just the latest in "relatively new technologies that people are really scared of for no good reason." There is no possible way that "Every American should have internet access" can be construed as...well, anything at all evil, or even bad.
                              Last edited by Luke34; Dec 10th 2008, 06:47 AM.
                              "We are symbols and inhabit symbols; workmen, work, and tools, words and things, birth and death, all are emblems; but we sympathize with the symbols, and being infatuated with the economical uses of things, we do not know that they are thoughts." - Emerson, "The Poet" (Essays, Second Series)

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