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    Thanks to a friend I updated this post which I first posted a couple of years ago

    To get to the answer of this question we need to go to the onlytrue source the bible and see when and why did God judge the world before. Theonly time this happened was back in Genesis chapters 4, 5 and 6. There is muchto learn about the end times in these three chapters more than most peoplethink. The main part of the text is found in Genesis chapter 6:1-8

    Genesis 6:1-8
    when human beings began to increase in number onthe earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that thedaughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for theyare mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

    4 The Nephilim were on the earth in thosedays—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humansand had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

    5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of thehuman race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughtsof the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he hadmade human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So theLord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I havecreated—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move alongthe ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in theeyes of the Lord.


    Many people believe that the sons of Godwere fallen angels who fornicated and had children with female human beingsthus making the world so evil that God decided to destroy civilization. Couldthis be? Could spiritual beings actually fornicate with human beings and haveoffspring even though Paul shows us in 1 Corinthians 15 that the heavenlybodies have a different splendor than human bodies? Would God really allow thisto happen?

    I believe that the sons of God were the faithfulsons from the line of Seth and that the daughters of men were the unfaithful daughtersfrom the unfaithful line of Cain.

    In these three chapters of Genesis we see thatthe descendants of Seth were faithful to God while the descendants of Cain wereunfaithful. What we read about the descendants of Cain is the greataccomplishments they made which is not bad in its self but it is if it’s theirhighest priority. When we read about Seth's descendants we see that they weregreat men of God who had many children and lived long lives but this was notattributed to Cain’s descendants.

    God warns the faithful peoplemany times to not mix with the unfaithful in the Old Testament and the reasonfor this is to keep the faithful from being corrupted. We read that one of thereasons that the sons of God were attracted to the daughters of men was becauseof their beauty not because of love so the reason that they fornicated withthem was for lust not love.
    But there must be more tothe reason that the sons of God were attracted to the daughters of men becausethere would also have been many beautiful women from the line of Seth.
    Lamech gives us the reason forthis in Genesis chapter 5
    Genesis 5:28-29
    28 When Lamechhad lived 182 years, he had a son. 29 He named himNoah[c] and said, “He will comfort us in the labor andpainful toil of our hands caused by the ground the Lord has cursed.”
    The faithful people of Godbegan to lose faith and complain about the pain and burden of working a cursedsoil. Lamech named his son Noah which means rest as he thought that Noah wouldbring his people comfort and rest.
    What the daughters of menoffered the sons of God was Autonomy
    [FONT="&amp]Autonomy[/FONT]
    1. The right or conditionof self-government.
    Aself-governing country or region.
    · Freedom from external control or influence;independence.
    Self-government · independence · self-rule · home rule · sovereignty ·

    The daughters of men offeredthe sons of God the autonomy they desired. The sons of God saw the greataccomplishments and advances of the sons of men. The sons of men lived aself-governed and independent life aside from God. This enticed the sons of Godso they intermarried with the daughters of men and put aside the ways of theLord and lived their own self determined lives.
    We see the first example of autonomyin the Garden of Eden with Eve. Eve decided that she wanted more than the lifeGod had determined for her she also wanted to be just like God. Satan knew thisand tempted Eve and told her that she could have this if she ate the forbiddenfruit.
    How much different are wethe church today? While the world is full of people living their own independentautonomous lives away from God, God’s predetermined choices for them havebecome negatives like race, gender, sexual orientation, child bearing and childraising. What God determined for them becomes non spiritual and non-important butis the church much different today?
    We the church need toremember that our children and our families are watching us. We need to be goodstewards with what God has given us including our children and make the rightlife choices. We only have a few short impactful years with our children and thelack of good Godly examples as well as being influenced by worldly views are reasonsthat the church youth today are leaving the church in high numbers when theygraduate from school. The autonomy of the world is becoming very attractive tothem and the conforming is so slow and so subtle that we conform before we realizeit and it is a struggle and sometimes too late to turn back.
    The seed of the serpent isindependence from God which is attractive to the world and the seed of God inconstant dependence on him. One way God keeps us dependent on Him is throughour bodies as our bodies need clothes, food and shelter to survive this keepsus dependent on God which keeps us spiritually close to Him thus our bodies andour souls work together.

    Back in Genesis over time while dwelling with theunfaithful the faithful conformed to the ways of man until the faithful camedown to just one man Noah. The ways of the Lord was lost as the people livedfor themselves and not for the Lord thus the whole world except Noah became wickedand filled with violence. The reason that God decided to destroy the human racewith the flood was not because the world was so evil it always has been evil andstill is today the reason was due to the conforming ways to the self-determinedLives of the faithful and it came down to just one man Noah.

    The world today looks very much like it did back before the flood and the boathas left the shore and it’s not turning back just like it didn’t in Noah’s day.God will still reach people as He still extends His grace and mercy just likeHe did with Noah’s family.


    God protected the line of the faithfulthroughout the bible and still continues to do so today and Jesus promised thatthe gates of hell will not overcome the church. God will step in and save thechurch before it’s overcome. I believe that Genesis chapters 4, 5 and 6 servesas warning for the church and the church today needs to depend more on God andstop conforming and live the life that God has determined for us. This very samereason for the flood will be the very same reason that God will destroy the worldin the future by fire.

    The faithful are once again slowlyconforming to the ways of the world and I believe when the church stops growingwe hold back the Holy Spirit and we release satan from his thousand yearbinding. When this happens we the church, the camp of God’s people, the city Godloves find ourselves out numbered and surrounded by the autonomous people ofthe world and then God will act.

    Revelation 20:7-9
    [FONT="&amp]7 [/FONT][FONT="&amp]When thethousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison[/FONT][FONT="&amp]8 [/FONT][FONT="&amp]and will go out to deceivethe nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather themfor battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.[/FONT][FONT="&amp]9 [/FONT][FONT="&amp]They marched across thebreadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city heloves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.[/FONT]
    Romans 12:1-2
    1Therefore,I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodiesas a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and properworship. 2 Do notconform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing ofyour mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—hisgood, pleasing and perfect will.

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    Sorry for the format on this maybe a mod could please fix it and delete the other thread with the same title
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      Re: When and why will God end our world?

      God will never end this world. He will firstly cleanse the holy Land. Only after the Millennium, will the New Jerusalem come and God will live in the renewed earth with mankind.

      Jeremiah 12:1-13 Lord, I plead my case before You, even though I know that You are right. Why do the unrighteous prosper? They grow and bear fruit, Your precepts are ever on their lips, yet far from their hearts. You know me, Lord, You see me, test my devotion to You and judge those who are unfaithful, I ask.
      How long must the ungodly peoples desecrate Your Land? They say; “God does not see what we do”. Your righteous people cannot compete with those who despise them. Even so called friends turn against us: they are untrustworthy.
      I have abandoned Israel and given My beloved people into the power of their enemies. They broke our covenant, so I turned My face from them.
      The leaders of Israel have made My pleasant Land a desolation, to My sorrow. Evil peoples have taken over the Land from end to end, there is no peace for anyone. Whatever these people do, their harvest is a disappointment because of the Lord’s anger.


      Jeremiah 12:14-17 These are the Words of the Lord about all those evil neighbors who have encroached onto the land which I allotted to My people, Israel, as their holding: I shall uproot them. Also, I shall uproot Judah from among them, but after I have uprooted them, I shall have pity on them and bring them back to the Land. IF they will learn the ways of My people, THEN Judah can establish families among My people. But any nation that will not listen, I will destroy. Reference; REB. Some verses abridged.

      Lord, bring on Your judgement….. Many people profess to follow You, but true Christianity is far from their hearts. Isaiah 1:18-20, Romans 10:9-10, Isaiah 48:1-2.
      Your true Christian peoples are persecuted and oppressed… 1 John 3:13-14, 1 Peter 1:6
      Test my devotion to You…. Everyone will face trials and testing. Luke 21:35, 1 Peter 4:12 If we stand firm, the Lord promises protection. Psalm 23:4, Isaiah 41:13, Isaiah 43:2
      The ancient Israelites broke the Covenant and so were exiled out of the holy Land and dispersed. Jeremiah 7:15 Jeremiah 2:7, Ezekiel 36:16-19, Amos 9:9

      The atheistic, apostate and false religion followers
      …. who mostly inhabit the entire area of the holy Land at present, are an anathema to God. There will be no peace or prosperity like this. This is our situation today. Psalms 74:20, Ezekiel 36:3-7.

      All the evil neighbours will be removed from all of the holy Land. Judah, too will be uprooted. Obadiah 12-16, Amos 2:4-6, Ezekiel 21:4
      The condition for any Jews to come back again, is that they acknowledge the Messiah Jesus and follow the way of Christianity. Isaiah 26:8-9, Jeremiah 13:11, 1 John 2:22-23, Zephaniah 1:12

      Any people group that refuses to listen will be destroyed….. Isaiah 1:27-28, Isaiah 66:15-17, Hebrews 10:26-27, Isaiah 66:24
      The Land of Israel is the heritage of the Lord’s faithful Christian believers, now the righteous Israelites of God. Galatians 6:16 They will gather and settle there, Psalms 107:1-3, after the Lord clears and cleanses the Land, as He says He will in verse 14. Deuteronomy 32:43, Isaiah 35:1-10

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        Re: When and why will God end our world?

        Originally posted by Keraz View Post
        God will never end this world. He will firstly cleanse the holy Land. Only after the Millennium, will the New Jerusalem come and God will live in the renewed earth with mankind.

        Jeremiah 12:1-13 Lord, I plead my case before You, even though I know that You are right. Why do the unrighteous prosper? They grow and bear fruit, Your precepts are ever on their lips, yet far from their hearts. You know me, Lord, You see me, test my devotion to You and judge those who are unfaithful, I ask.
        How long must the ungodly peoples desecrate Your Land? They say; “God does not see what we do”. Your righteous people cannot compete with those who despise them. Even so called friends turn against us: they are untrustworthy.
        I have abandoned Israel and given My beloved people into the power of their enemies. They broke our covenant, so I turned My face from them.
        The leaders of Israel have made My pleasant Land a desolation, to My sorrow. Evil peoples have taken over the Land from end to end, there is no peace for anyone. Whatever these people do, their harvest is a disappointment because of the Lord’s anger.


        Jeremiah 12:14-17 These are the Words of the Lord about all those evil neighbors who have encroached onto the land which I allotted to My people, Israel, as their holding: I shall uproot them. Also, I shall uproot Judah from among them, but after I have uprooted them, I shall have pity on them and bring them back to the Land. IF they will learn the ways of My people, THEN Judah can establish families among My people. But any nation that will not listen, I will destroy. Reference; REB. Some verses abridged.

        Lord, bring on Your judgement….. Many people profess to follow You, but true Christianity is far from their hearts. Isaiah 1:18-20, Romans 10:9-10, Isaiah 48:1-2.
        Your true Christian peoples are persecuted and oppressed… 1 John 3:13-14, 1 Peter 1:6
        Test my devotion to You…. Everyone will face trials and testing. Luke 21:35, 1 Peter 4:12 If we stand firm, the Lord promises protection. Psalm 23:4, Isaiah 41:13, Isaiah 43:2
        The ancient Israelites broke the Covenant and so were exiled out of the holy Land and dispersed. Jeremiah 7:15 Jeremiah 2:7, Ezekiel 36:16-19, Amos 9:9

        The atheistic, apostate and false religion followers
        …. who mostly inhabit the entire area of the holy Land at present, are an anathema to God. There will be no peace or prosperity like this. This is our situation today. Psalms 74:20, Ezekiel 36:3-7.

        All the evil neighbours will be removed from all of the holy Land. Judah, too will be uprooted. Obadiah 12-16, Amos 2:4-6, Ezekiel 21:4
        The condition for any Jews to come back again, is that they acknowledge the Messiah Jesus and follow the way of Christianity. Isaiah 26:8-9, Jeremiah 13:11, 1 John 2:22-23, Zephaniah 1:12

        Any people group that refuses to listen will be destroyed….. Isaiah 1:27-28, Isaiah 66:15-17, Hebrews 10:26-27, Isaiah 66:24
        The Land of Israel is the heritage of the Lord’s faithful Christian believers, now the righteous Israelites of God. Galatians 6:16 They will gather and settle there, Psalms 107:1-3, after the Lord clears and cleanses the Land, as He says He will in verse 14. Deuteronomy 32:43, Isaiah 35:1-10
        Why did God cleanse the world the only time before?

        Not because it was so evil the world has always been evil even one year of abortions alone would anger God enough if that was the reason for him to do it.

        God cleansed it because His faithful people stopped being faithful all of them except for Noah and there would be no faithful people left after Noah

        The Holy Spirit works in Gods people and when Gods people stop moving the church stops growing and when the church stops growing it will wither away when the faithful people pass on

        Jesus promised that the church will never die so God will act before it does but when the church starts to really conform that’s when it will happen. So we need keep pushing on and save all that we can and that starts in our homes our children and grandchildren souls are stake so we need to be so careful of conforming.

        It happens so subtlety that we hardly notice it I’m sure that we have all done it to some point I know I have and in this day and age with tv and the internet it’s easier than ever

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