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  • Public, Private, or Homeschool?

    And why?

    We need to get some activity in the Educating our Children forum!
    Come unto me all that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

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    If you can afford it private is excellent. We did it while we were able to. But now they go to a public school. Though it's a charter school and it runs more like a private school.
    This IGNORE button is by far one of the most useful tools I've used to keep my peace while navigating through some of the madness.

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    • #3
      Re: Public, Private, or Homeschool?

      I only have one left that is school age. We had a very difficult time with him behavior-wise last year...and the principal and counselor actually said he was in a "destructive environment" - public school! We homeschooled from March until May and he returned to public school this month for three days and we decided homeschool was his best option. Our state guarantees the right of parents to homeschool, we do not have to report to any school board and we get to learn on our schedule as long as he is getting a comparable education to the public school.

      I would have to say it is richer since we are incorporating life skills and non-revisionist history.
      Come unto me all that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28

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      • #4
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        I tried homeschooling my son for a year..it didn't go well at all. I have a learning disability and he did too at that time and it just doesn't work when I am unable to even read many words out loud due to the type of LD I have. That is just one problem among many..

        So the next year I enrolled him in public school and he got the help he needed and now here years later is no longer considered LD. (of course I credit God also with this success..answered prayers) Last year in fact he made the honor roll through the whole school year. Yes I am very proud parent.

        On the down side...he does have to deal daily with very worldly behavior in middle school. He knows what is wrong and what is right on this though. At times other kids behavior are very difficult to deal with. Very. But frankly what I hear about private Christian schools its not any better.

        I have looked through our Christian school requirements and its very intimidating...very. I have talked it over with him because I could get him a grant to go but he doesn't want too. At least not yet. Things aren't so unbearable at school for him to want to go to a strict dress code, have lots of homework, and meet all their other requirements. Its alot of pressure actually..something he doesn't need. He has an anxiety disorder and I am afraid the demands from this school would be too much for him.

        The school he is in now has been good at dealing with bullying or other issues too...much better then when he was in grade school.. Its not perfect..but he is learning and thriving there.

        God bless
        "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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        • #5
          Re: Public, Private, or Homeschool?

          Wow, a new thread in this forum?

          Our kids are still too young yet, but in time we will send them to a Christian school. My wife is a teacher and could probably homeschool if we wanted, but that would be a resort only if there are any unforeseen issues.

          I have no particular beef against public as I did both Christian elementary and public high school. In hindsight, the public education was far superior than my Christian school education. That has changed a lot though since then as there are excellent teachers in the Christian schools (not so much back then). Most Christian schools out here generally outrank the public schools as far as educational outcomes.

          We are quite fortunate out this way as the provincial government partially funds the independent schools for operating costs (not capital) so our costs are probably less than a lot of other jurisdictions.
          Do not say, “Why were the old days better than these?” For it is not wise to ask such questions.
          Ecc 7:10

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          • #6
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            I think that there's no simple answer, ultimately a parent has to educate themselves about what's available and what will be a good fit for their child, and be prepared to be involved as much as possible.

            I went the public school route with our kids, luckily we have open enrollment - which means as long as you can provide transportation you can apply for them to get in any school in the district (I think now it's even cross-districts).

            Our district is not great overall, but I was able to navigate my kids through the bright spots. My daughter even got into the district's version of a college prep school... it's one of only 2 High School's in Arizona ranked in the top 25 in the US (by US News and World Report).

            It was a great school for academics but tended to have a liberal lean and was somewhat anti-religion. Ironically I felt she thrived and actually learned how to be an individual, able to go against the flow of common opinion. My daughter just started college this week (all paid for) and she's pretty comfortable and familiar with being her own person, and for that I'm so thankful!

            My son is in the nearby district HS, and he's also doing well. He's very involved in the high school group at our church which includes a lot of his classmates, and seems to also have a good sense of self and be enjoying his experience.

            I've heard mixed reviews of our local private and religious schools from various people. My sister had a ton of problems with the catholic school she started her kids in. After a change they did OK at what was the most expensive private (non-religious) school in town. Then they moved to Montana where the all the public schools were better than the private school they had been going to here ! Her kids finally thrived in school!

            Then there's my cousin who lives in a small town, the local school district is small and poorly run, on top of that they live about 30-40 minutes out of town... so homeschooling seemed the best option, and that's worked well for her.

            It's all about investigating the options and finding the right path for your children.
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            • #7
              Re: Public, Private, or Homeschool?

              Homeschool for us. My husband and I were both homeschooled, and we've both known even since before we got married that that's what we want to do for our kids. I also attended private Christian school for one year and it was a good school but I was miserable, and I went to public school for three years and it wasn't as hard on me in a lot of ways as the Christian school was, but despite being one of the best districts in our state it was dismal academically and very demotivating.

              Our older child is 2, and on Monday I'll be starting preschool at home with him. I'm really excited to get started, and I think he's going to love it. I don't really believe preschool is necessary, but a friend of mine passed down a preschool curriculum for 2-year-olds that she never used and I thought, "why not?"

              Conveniently, both of our moms live nearby so I'll have them for help, support and advice as needed. I figure it'll be pretty hard to go wrong.
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              Give me one magnificent obsession
              Give me one glorious ambition for my life:
              To know and follow hard after You.

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              • #8
                Re: Public, Private, or Homeschool?

                Our children went to public school and carried Jesus along with them!! We could not afford private school and I was not confident enough to homeschool. I personally felt like homeschooling would shelter them too much from the reality of the "battleground" we live in. All in all, I feel public school did help my children to become aware of the realities in the world and to better deal with real life situations at hand. They both graduated and have been successful in their pursuits thus far. Thank you God!!!!
                I'm Sara
                "Jesus wept." John 11:35
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by canvasjockey View Post
                  I think that there's no simple answer, ultimately a parent has to educate themselves about what's available and what will be a good fit for their child, and be prepared to be involved as much as possible.

                  I went the public school route with our kids, luckily we have open enrollment - which means as long as you can provide transportation you can apply for them to get in any school in the district (I think now it's even cross-districts).

                  Our district is not great overall, but I was able to navigate my kids through the bright spots. My daughter even got into the district's version of a college prep school... it's one of only 2 High School's in Arizona ranked in the top 25 in the US (by US News and World Report).

                  It was a great school for academics but tended to have a liberal lean and was somewhat anti-religion. Ironically I felt she thrived and actually learned how to be an individual, able to go against the flow of common opinion. My daughter just started college this week (all paid for) and she's pretty comfortable and familiar with being her own person, and for that I'm so thankful!

                  My son is in the nearby district HS, and he's also doing well. He's very involved in the high school group at our church which includes a lot of his classmates, and seems to also have a good sense of self and be enjoying his experience.

                  I've heard mixed reviews of our local private and religious schools from various people. My sister had a ton of problems with the catholic school she started her kids in. After a change they did OK at what was the most expensive private (non-religious) school in town. Then they moved to Montana where the all the public schools were better than the private school they had been going to here ! Her kids finally thrived in school!

                  Then there's my cousin who lives in a small town, the local school district is small and poorly run, on top of that they live about 30-40 minutes out of town... so homeschooling seemed the best option, and that's worked well for her.

                  It's all about investigating the options and finding the right path for your children.
                  That was an excellent post and I totally agree. Not everyone can or wants to home school...nor does that fit for every child. Not every child can handle public school either and needs something else..private or home school. Its what fits for that child.

                  I got upset when in the past on here anyway, the home schoolers would badger us that didn't home school and really lay on the guilt trips.. I had some bad arguments with some of them I am afraid. Really lost my temper with them over the lack of understanding why it didn't work for us. There is a down side to being home schooled, just as their is a down side to private or public schools. Nothing is going to be perfect all the time because we live in a fallen world.

                  canvasjockey made me remember a few things I forgot to mention before. Down side to the school my son is at now is they really push after school activities (though alot actually takes place before school..lol) Band, choir, sports..and the kids are awarded at the end of the year for all this other stuff..not for good grades or excelling in certain classes (though their names are listed each nine weeks who made the honor roll) but that is it. I am very discouraged by that actually in a time when education is slipping...it seems it should be the other way around. (used to be when I was in school anyway). I don't see any of these activities helping my son get a job/career later in life let alone prepare him to college which I am really hoping he goes too.

                  He excels in science and I think has a real talent for that and I would like his goals to be set toward something in the science field but the school needs to encourage that too..not just the parents. Last year was the first year they did state testing in science and his score was very high...but they didn't break it down as much as they did with reading and math where they showed the strengths and weakness as if its not quite as important as those two other subjects.

                  I know many parents feel their kids need to be involved in after school activities for all sorts of reasons and if he wants to do something he can...but frankly I don't push it. I want him to have time to get his homework done and not be stressed and having to stay up late to do it because he was at some game. I feel the actual education is much, much more important then these other things.

                  On the up side though I went to the parent meeting the other evening where we follow our kids class schedules and go to each of their classes. The teachers though have a limited amount of time to explain what they are teaching, their grading system and so forth. I have to say I was excited! "I" wanted to do all this stuff the kids were going to be doing! I was impressed and very enthused. I can't say I ever felt that way about school either... Here I am almost 50 and wishing I could take some of these classes..lol. (and no one suggest college to me! Been there done that! lol).

                  The teachers are relaxed and content and very open and caring about the kids. Totally the opposite of the teachers in grade school... They just made everything sound so great! Oh and many of them are Christians. Alot of them have been all through his school years and they talk openingly about their faith..especially to any of the kids that say they are Christians too.

                  God bless
                  "People do not drift toward holiness. Apart from grace-driven effort, people do not gravitate toward godliness, prayer, obedience to Scripture, faith, and delight in the Lord. We drift toward compromise and call it tolerance; We drift toward disobedience and call it freedom; We drift toward superstition and call it faith. We cherish the indiscipline of lost self-control and call it relaxation; we slouch toward prayerlessness and delude ourselves into thinking we have escaped legalism; we slide toward godlessness and convince ourselves we have been liberated?" - D A Carson

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                  • #10
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                    I went to a private Christian School with an outstanding reputation and an outrageous tuition to go with it. All students were required to sign a pledge agreeing not to listen to rock and roll music, use tobacco in any form, use drugs in any form, etc. It had a very strict dress code.

                    I saw more drugs, parties, smoking, rock and roll, etc. in that school than I ever did in public school. I was persecuted more for following Christ than I ever was in public school. It was the most miserable time in my academic life.

                    My son will go to public school.
                    For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived? ~ Deuteronomy 5:26

                    If you're not prepared to risk your very life for your "enemy" you have no right to speak to him of love. ~ Daughter

                    Many say they are called... but I am pretty convinced that with many of them it was the wrong number. ~ Project Peter

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                    • #11
                      Re: Public, Private, or Homeschool?

                      Originally posted by Urban Missionary View Post
                      I went to a private Christian School with an outstanding reputation and an outrageous tuition to go with it. All students were required to sign a pledge agreeing not to listen to rock and roll music, use tobacco in any form, use drugs in any form, etc. It had a very strict dress code.

                      I saw more drugs, parties, smoking, rock and roll, etc. in that school than I ever did in public school. I was persecuted more for following Christ than I ever was in public school. It was the most miserable time in my academic life.

                      My son will go to public school.
                      I had the option to go to the Christian high school (which was a significant bus ride away) or public high school. All my sisters went to public, so I did the same. From the stories of my friends who went to the Christian high school, there were definitely more behaviour issues there than I ever encountered during my public shool experience (although definitely not to the extent of your story). It may be simply that the public high schools were much larger and therefore it's harder to witness everything going on and you tend to get into you little segment of high school society.
                      Do not say, “Why were the old days better than these?” For it is not wise to ask such questions.
                      Ecc 7:10

                      John777 exists to me only in quoted form.


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                      • #12
                        Re: Public, Private, or Homeschool?

                        Originally posted by Urban Missionary View Post
                        I went to a private Christian School with an outstanding reputation and an outrageous tuition to go with it. All students were required to sign a pledge agreeing not to listen to rock and roll music, use tobacco in any form, use drugs in any form, etc. It had a very strict dress code.

                        I saw more drugs, parties, smoking, rock and roll, etc. in that school than I ever did in public school. I was persecuted more for following Christ than I ever was in public school. It was the most miserable time in my academic life.

                        My son will go to public school.
                        I went to a public school, the only miserable time I had there was middle school. Elementary school I was teased a lot but the teachers were nice and high school was jus cliquey but had good teachers. Middle school was awful, change in everything (consolidated with anoher school and had new classmates, was at a new school in a different town, new teachers). Ad I was harrassed constantly by a girl and cliques started to form. The teachers there had no patience on helping me with my learning problem, they either put me back a level behind my classmates, or got mad at me and told me to go back to my desk. I had 2 teachers there who cared. High school ahd good teacehrs who were patient and willing to help so besides middle school, I had a good experience for the most part.

                        My brohter played a catholic school and funny thing is you'd never know they were a christian school from what was coming out of the parents, coaches and players mouths. I think that really threw some of the parents on my brother's team off seeing that. Cliques, parties, bulying and all that is everywhere.
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                          Originally posted by Momof5 View Post
                          And why?

                          We need to get some activity in the Educating our Children forum!
                          If you can afford it Christian School is the way to go. Each public school is different, but around here there are many teachers who are athiests. The text books are most definitely anti-God. The Word of God is quite plain that one who does not believe in God is a fool. I really would have a hard time telling my child "go to school and listen to the fool." "Respect the fool." "Learn from the fool." "Sit under the teaching of the fool and he will make you wise."

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                          • #14
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                            We just started preschool at home, and are having fun! It will be at home for us.
                            In Christ,
                            Katie



                            Romans 15:13 ~ May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Public, Private, or Homeschool?

                              Hello,

                              This is a good question. All three schools for my children! Natasha is my public school middle school daughter. Ilya is my public elementary school son. However, all the children, "Home School"!

                              My 3 little girls are named Ava, Tahira, Matryona. They are 5, 3 and 2. I teach them during the day. We read books. I read aloud, and you can read out loud with Ava. We sound out words. We have to learn English and other languages and we learn them with the alphabet songs to sing. We are studying the numbers. Maybe we can use apples. I cut up apples into slices. How many slices? What are the numbers? If we eat some apple slices! Now what? Count again.

                              We have to go outside so we have science. This is "home school" science. This was the insect. How many legs? What names for those flowers? Poems about the nature of myth, and I tell them. God has made the beauty we see. They learn behavior. Sharing. Turns. They learn responsibility. After lunch and breakfast Ava is washing cups. Tahira puts on the table spoons. Matryona cleans up some of the toys selected. Good skills.

                              For the weekend "home school" for all. This is done away from home. We go to the museum. Study of art. Go fishing on the lake and bookstore for more information. Children to help cook dinner and snacks all the time. They learn the art. We read the Bible. My husband will be able to read the Qur'an to them. They learn the words of books in my Bible and his Qur'an. We play flashcards. Homework time, everyone at the table to help children get the education.

                              Sunday morning is a special school. Sunday school. They learn of God and study Bible. That is the private school. They get Christian education.

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