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    I went to see a pain management specialist after being diagnosed with DDD (Degenerate Disk Disease) in my lower back and neck. I was told I had 2 options: Change my lifestyle (no more weight lifting) and do yoga and Pilates OR pain management. Of course I had NO desire to change my lifestyle. I've been lifting weights since junior high school. I took the pain management route.

    Having had NO experience with pain pills I figured I could handle it. I've been taken my Clonazepam for the last 7 years as prescribed so why would opiates be any different? I'm a drunk, but I can handle prescription drugs. That was the lie I told myself. Boy was I wrong. At first, it was great. It killed the pain and I was more productive at work, etc. etc. Then the same dose wasn't enough. They said it's normal to quickly build a tolerance. They kept increasing and increasing the dose as my tolerance kept building. Pretty soon I was taking them just to get out of bed to feel "normal", whatever normal is. Fast forward 5-6 months and I was completely and hopelessly hooked on these meds. I was taking Opana 40mgs and OxyCodone 30s. I didn't realize it at the time but the Opana is like OxyContin on steroids. It's the strongest pain med made.

    About 2 months ago I starting looking into treatment options and they all pretty much sucked. There was the slow weaning approach which is like Chinese water torture, suboxone and methadone. After researching Suboxone and Methadone I soon discovered it was just replacing one drug with a more addictive drug that is even harder to get off than the opiate itself. Not knowing what opiate withdrawal was like I started researching that since I was considering the cold turkey approach. Based on the meds I was taking and the amount, it was like 10 days of literal hell on earth so that wasn't appealing.

    Finally I stumbled on this "miracle cure" treatment called Ibogaine, which is not available in the US for safety issues. It sounded too good to be true. The punchline was no withdrawal and it resets your brain and body to a pre-addictive state. I called some clinics in Mexico, talked to several people who went through this treatment and they all claimed that it worked. I figured at that point I had nothing to lose. I paid the $6k, went down to Mexico last month, got treated and it worked. I was amazed. I had no opiate withdrawal at all or any mental desire to use them. Of course the pain came back but at least I'm off that stuff.

    For those of you considering pain management, please count the cost, and do your research. There will come a time when you want to get off of them and find out you can't. I was naive. I didn't think it through. Opiates had a paralyzing death grip on my life and I didn't see any way off them once I was hooked. Christ pulled through and delivered me from my affliction one more time (there have been many).

    After completely destroying my body over the last year I'm back in the gym, church, AA, etc. at ground zero. I'm also moving Texas at the end of the month. I'm tired of California and it's 13% state income tax. As of August, I'll be a Texan. Hopefully I can find a good bible based church that preaches the truth.

    In service today this one verse from Luke stood out to me: But he answered them, “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it." Luke 8:21. Jesus is referring to his mother Mary and his brothers. He was de-prioritizing his family in favor of those who hear the Word and do it​ (works).
    I know what I know
    I know what I don't know
    I don't know what I don't know.

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    Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

    I agree, Nick. Simply talking the talk is never sufficient. Gotta walk the walk too. Or as some say, run the race.

    Sounds like you've had a rough time, finding your way! Its good to see you on here again. May God continue to heal, help, strengthen you and lead you.
    My favorite scripture: Malachi 3:16

    "Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name!" (Every time we speak of the Lord, or even THINK of him--its written down in a book of remembrance!)

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    • #3
      Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

      Praise The Lord brother! I'm happy to hear the good report of what The Lord is doing in your life. Your willingness to be open and transparent is a blessing to this community.
      Some people don't mind contradicting themselves as long as they can keep disagreeing with you...

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        Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

        Originally posted by Nick View Post
        I went to see a pain management specialist after being diagnosed with DDD (Degenerate Disk Disease) in my lower back and neck. I was told I had 2 options: Change my lifestyle (no more weight lifting) and do yoga and Pilates OR pain management. Of course I had NO desire to change my lifestyle. I've been lifting weights since junior high school. I took the pain management route.

        Having had NO experience with pain pills I figured I could handle it. I've been taken my Clonazepam for the last 7 years as prescribed so why would opiates be any different? I'm a drunk, but I can handle prescription drugs. That was the lie I told myself. Boy was I wrong. At first, it was great. It killed the pain and I was more productive at work, etc. etc. Then the same dose wasn't enough. They said it's normal to quickly build a tolerance. They kept increasing and increasing the dose as my tolerance kept building. Pretty soon I was taking them just to get out of bed to feel "normal", whatever normal is. Fast forward 5-6 months and I was completely and hopelessly hooked on these meds. I was taking Opana 40mgs and OxyCodone 30s. I didn't realize it at the time but the Opana is like OxyContin on steroids. It's the strongest pain med made.

        About 2 months ago I starting looking into treatment options and they all pretty much sucked. There was the slow weaning approach which is like Chinese water torture, suboxone and methadone. After researching Suboxone and Methadone I soon discovered it was just replacing one drug with a more addictive drug that is even harder to get off than the opiate itself. Not knowing what opiate withdrawal was like I started researching that since I was considering the cold turkey approach. Based on the meds I was taking and the amount, it was like 10 days of literal hell on earth so that wasn't appealing.

        Finally I stumbled on this "miracle cure" treatment called Ibogaine, which is not available in the US for safety issues. It sounded too good to be true. The punchline was no withdrawal and it resets your brain and body to a pre-addictive state. I called some clinics in Mexico, talked to several people who went through this treatment and they all claimed that it worked. I figured at that point I had nothing to lose. I paid the $6k, went down to Mexico last month, got treated and it worked. I was amazed. I had no opiate withdrawal at all or any mental desire to use them. Of course the pain came back but at least I'm off that stuff.

        For those of you considering pain management, please count the cost, and do your research. There will come a time when you want to get off of them and find out you can't. I was naive. I didn't think it through. Opiates had a paralyzing death grip on my life and I didn't see any way off them once I was hooked. Christ pulled through and delivered me from my affliction one more time (there have been many).

        After completely destroying my body over the last year I'm back in the gym, church, AA, etc. at ground zero. I'm also moving Texas at the end of the month. I'm tired of California and it's 13% state income tax. As of August, I'll be a Texan. Hopefully I can find a good bible based church that preaches the truth.

        In service today this one verse from Luke stood out to me: But he answered them, “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it." Luke 8:21. Jesus is referring to his mother Mary and his brothers. He was de-prioritizing his family in favor of those who hear the Word and do it​ (works).
        Glad you are off the opiates. If I remember correctly we had an interesting discussion about Anabolic steroids a while back. Hope you are off them as well.

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          Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

          Originally posted by Reynolds357 View Post
          Glad you are off the opiates. If I remember correctly we had an interesting discussion about Anabolic steroids a while back. Hope you are off them as well.
          Not much of an option there unless I never want to have sex with my wife. My body is shut down. At age 35 I had the testosterone levels of an 80 year old man. When you abuse steroids like I have since high school that's the price you pay. I'll be on medical TRT for life.
          I know what I know
          I know what I don't know
          I don't know what I don't know.

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            Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

            Originally posted by Nick View Post
            Not much of an option there unless I never want to have sex with my wife. My body is shut down. At age 35 I had the testosterone levels of an 80 year old man. When you abuse steroids like I have since high school that's the price you pay. I'll be on medical TRT for life.
            Know what you mean there. I was never into body building, but I was into power lifting for years. The ironic thing is that the guys I lifted with who were on the juice never were much stronger than I was. They had something new coming in from Germany every couple of weeks. They blew up like balloons, but they did not really get any stronger than I did lifting natural. They lifted 2 1/2 to 3 hours per session. I had to break up my workouts into 4 or 5 30 minute sessions per day. They did not take days off and I took Sunday and Wednesday off. To me, the reward seemed totally over rated. They stayed hurt a lot more than the natural lifters. They had muscle tears and tendon problems almost constantly.

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              Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

              Originally posted by Reynolds357 View Post
              Know what you mean there. I was never into body building, but I was into power lifting for years. The ironic thing is that the guys I lifted with who were on the juice never were much stronger than I was. They had something new coming in from Germany every couple of weeks. They blew up like balloons, but they did not really get any stronger than I did lifting natural. They lifted 2 1/2 to 3 hours per session. I had to break up my workouts into 4 or 5 30 minute sessions per day. They did not take days off and I took Sunday and Wednesday off. To me, the reward seemed totally over rated. They stayed hurt a lot more than the natural lifters. They had muscle tears and tendon problems almost constantly.
              Story of my life. The steroids made me bigger, stronger, faster, but at a huge price. Injuries were commonplace and I think they had a lot to do with my DDD in my back and neck. Maybe one day I'll share my story with high school athletes to hopefully deter them from taking the same path. Never met a professional or competing powerlifter who didn't give in to steroids. Good for you. I'm sure you were tempted, but unlike me, you probably thought it through. That's rare for a powerlifter.
              I know what I know
              I know what I don't know
              I don't know what I don't know.

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                Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

                Hi Nick,
                quote: Finally I stumbled on this "miracle cure" treatment called Ibogaine, which is not available in the US for safety issues. It sounded too good to be true. The punchline was no withdrawal and it resets your brain and body to a pre-addictive state. I called some clinics in Mexico, talked to several people who went through this treatment and they all claimed that it worked. I figured at that point I had nothing to lose. I paid the $6k, went down to Mexico last month, got treated and it worked. I was amazed. I had no opiate withdrawal at all or any mental desire to use them. Of course the pain came back but at least I'm off that stuff.

                Why don't they have this in the states? Why would you have to go all the way to Mexico? Heroin has become big with the kids where I live, and we live far from the city.

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                  Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

                  Originally posted by bunnymuldare View Post
                  Hi Nick,
                  quote: Finally I stumbled on this "miracle cure" treatment called Ibogaine, which is not available in the US for safety issues. It sounded too good to be true. The punchline was no withdrawal and it resets your brain and body to a pre-addictive state. I called some clinics in Mexico, talked to several people who went through this treatment and they all claimed that it worked. I figured at that point I had nothing to lose. I paid the $6k, went down to Mexico last month, got treated and it worked. I was amazed. I had no opiate withdrawal at all or any mental desire to use them. Of course the pain came back but at least I'm off that stuff.

                  Why don't they have this in the states? Why would you have to go all the way to Mexico? Heroin has become big with the kids where I live, and we live far from the city.
                  The obvious answer is that the FDA takes its sweet time is why it is still not legal here. Probably the more correct answer is that rehab is a big business. If you can rehab in a couple of weeks, a lot of money will be lost by the ongoing model of rehab here in the states. Heroin is making a huge comeback. Cheaper than Oxy. Kids get hooked on Oxy and then find they can use Heroin cheaper.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

                    Originally posted by Reynolds357 View Post
                    The obvious answer is that the FDA takes its sweet time is why it is still not legal here. Probably the more correct answer is that rehab is a big business. If you can rehab in a couple of weeks, a lot of money will be lost by the ongoing model of rehab here in the states. Heroin is making a huge comeback. Cheaper than Oxy. Kids get hooked on Oxy and then find they can use Heroin cheaper.
                    I heard years ago that there was something like this that could get you off heroin without the withdrawal, but the excuse the doctor used for not giving it to everybody was that it made it too easy, and so the patient would be back over and over again. I think that's nonsense.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Opiate addiction over - Thank God

                      Glad to hear, Nick. Thanks for the report.
                      As the "thief" in the night, Christ is going to suddenly appear on the throne of Israel - not the antichrist.

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