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    Are people (humans) ever to blame for anything? if so when? If not why?

  • #2
    I hope this helps you in your long search for Jesus Christ. It is good to see genuine seekers approaching the same issue from so many different angles.

    I am guilty/ to blame for my sin. Someone who hears the gospel and rejects it, is to blame for rejecting God's Son Jesus Christ. Luckily we all have the gift of God made flesh, Jesus Christ, to save us.

    May I soon be able to take the love I have for you as a genuine seeker and make that a love for another believer, bless you, SofTy.
    1 Corinthians 1:12-13 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos: and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

    Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptised in the name of Paul?

    KJV

    May the power of the Spirit of our God unite us. SofTy.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by oscarkipling View Post
      Are people (humans) ever to blame for anything? if so when? If not why?

      Absolutely!

      Anytime we make a willful choice, we are responsible for it... whether good, bad, or indifferent.

      However, to point out something humans are NOT to blame, nor are we responsible for..... "Global Warming".
      (Mainly because it's a false theory.)
      And.... in reality, the Earth is actually experiencing a COOLING trend.
      *go figure*

      Back in the 70's we were warned of an impending "Ice-Age" looming on the horizon....

      Hebrews 11:1 Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
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      There was a time when I used to think Macro-evolution might be a possibility..... but then I GREW UP!
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      Meike & I have the same birthday! Na-na na, na-na!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ServantofTruth View Post
        I hope this helps you in your long search for Jesus Christ. It is good to see genuine seekers approaching the same issue from so many different angles.

        I am guilty/ to blame for my sin. Someone who hears the gospel and rejects it, is to blame for rejecting God's Son Jesus Christ. Luckily we all have the gift of God made flesh, Jesus Christ, to save us.

        May I soon be able to take the love I have for you as a genuine seeker and make that a love for another believer, bless you, SofTy.

        thanks servant of truth

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        • #5
          Originally posted by markdrums View Post
          Absolutely!

          Anytime we make a willful choice, we are responsible for it... whether good, bad, or indifferent.

          However, to point out something humans are NOT to blame, nor are we responsible for..... "Global Warming".
          (Mainly because it's a false theory.)
          And.... in reality, the Earth is actually experiencing a COOLING trend.
          *go figure*

          Back in the 70's we were warned of an impending "Ice-Age" looming on the horizon....


          hahahagagaga now I have no idea what sort of vehicle you drive but when I read this post all I could imagine was some fictitious version of you stepping out of your rare amazonian hardwood door to go to work dressed in your finest endangered panda fur coat and only to have 4 hippies toss paint on it and chain themselves to your brand new SUV to lower your carbon footprint...promptly after you arrive to work at Exxon you insert this scathing rebuke of global warming into first thread you come across regardless of its relevance to show those petuli smelling tree huggers who'e boss.....cmon' its kinda a funny right. anyhow thanks

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          • #6
            Originally posted by oscarkipling View Post
            hahahagagaga now I have no idea what sort of vehicle you drive but when I read this post all I could imagine was some fictitious version of you stepping out of your rare amazonian hardwood door to go to work dressed in your finest endangered panda fur coat and only to have 4 hippies toss paint on it and chain themselves to your brand new SUV to lower your carbon footprint...promptly after you arrive to work at Exxon you insert this scathing rebuke of global warming into first thread you come across regardless of its relevance to show those petuli smelling tree huggers who'e boss.....cmon' its kinda a funny right. anyhow thanks

            You must have spies watching me!!! How'd you guess???
            LOL!!! But yeah, your reply was pretty darn good! I enjoyed it!!

            But it's the truth... we ARE responsible for our choices......
            and then there are things like the weather, that we have no control over.

            I could have used hurricanes or blizzards as an example... but it wouldn't have been as fun for either of us.
            Hebrews 11:1 Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
            _______________________________________________
            There was a time when I used to think Macro-evolution might be a possibility..... but then I GREW UP!
            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

            Meike & I have the same birthday! Na-na na, na-na!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by oscarkipling View Post
              Are people (humans) ever to blame for anything? if so when? If not why?
              It's a very modern malaise to assume nobody is responsible for anything - if something good happens we take the credit, if something bad happens we look for someone else to blame. It's actually a very immature life outlook, if we do something stupid we need to accept responsibility for what we have done.

              So on that basis I am responsible for every single sin I have committed in my life. That's not a great thought, but that's the way it is. I can't confess and repent of sin unless I acknowledge that I did it in the first place, and unless I accept that I did it and nobody made me do it then saying sorry for doing it is a bit of an empty exercise.

              NKJV Bible text in bold, my own words in regular text in parentheses:

              1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin (i.e. we deny we sinned, or deny responsibility for it), we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
              1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins
              (i.e. we accept we are sinners, and accept responsibility for our sins), He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
              24 August 2013 - I've decided to take a break from a number of internet forums, including this one, for my own reasons.
              I expect to be back at some time in the future, although at present don't know when that will be.
              I've been here just a few days shy of six years, and those six years have been greatly blessed.

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              1Jn 4:1 NKJV Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
              1Th 5:21-22 NKJV Test all things; hold fast what is good. (22) Abstain from every form of evil.



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              • #8
                Originally posted by tango View Post
                It's a very modern malaise to assume nobody is responsible for anything - if something good happens we take the credit, if something bad happens we look for someone else to blame. It's actually a very immature life outlook, if we do something stupid we need to accept responsibility for what we have done.

                So on that basis I am responsible for every single sin I have committed in my life. That's not a great thought, but that's the way it is. I can't confess and repent of sin unless I acknowledge that I did it in the first place, and unless I accept that I did it and nobody made me do it then saying sorry for doing it is a bit of an empty exercise.

                NKJV Bible text in bold, my own words in regular text in parentheses:

                1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin (i.e. we deny we sinned, or deny responsibility for it), we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
                1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins
                (i.e. we accept we are sinners, and accept responsibility for our sins), He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

                thank you tango for your answer

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                • #9
                  You can only ever be fully held accountable for something you a) knaw better and b) have control over.

                  So if you're 30 years old and you understand how basic bowel functions work and how toilets work and what is expected, and you have a toilet nearby and you choose instead to leave your pile on my kitchen floor for whatever reason short of a medical issue such as a seizure or other physical breakdown, then yes, I am going to hold you responsible and make you clean it up and then swiftly show you to the door, never to return again.

                  Which is why those who know better and choose to disobey anyway, will be dealt with accordingly. If you're ignorant, then you're ignorant. If you have the ability and opportunity to educate yourself, then a claim of ignorance no longer holds water because now there is a choice that comes into the mix, which you have full control over.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DaniHansen View Post
                    You can only ever be fully held accountable for something you a) knaw better and b) have control over.

                    So if you're 30 years old and you understand how basic bowel functions work and how toilets work and what is expected, and you have a toilet nearby and you choose instead to leave your pile on my kitchen floor for whatever reason short of a medical issue such as a seizure or other physical breakdown, then yes, I am going to hold you responsible and make you clean it up and then swiftly show you to the door, never to return again.

                    Which is why those who know better and choose to disobey anyway, will be dealt with accordingly. If you're ignorant, then you're ignorant. If you have the ability and opportunity to educate yourself, then a claim of ignorance no longer holds water because now there is a choice that comes into the mix, which you have full control over.

                    thanks for your answer Danihansen

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                    • #11
                      If it was pretty, loud, shiney, or made me feel good I wanted it. I was the poster boy for sneaky sin. Does satan come into play, sure. Do I place all blame on him, no. He has footprints on his back where I ran him over trying to get to the feel good. I am so grateful that God has forgiven me and is changing me. I am sinful and need a Savior, I got one and am forgiven. Praise the Lord. I like my life so much better walking in the Lord.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by oscarkipling View Post
                        Are people (humans) ever to blame for anything? if so when? If not why?
                        yes. always. people make thier own choices. they are responsible for the consequences.
                        Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.
                        Proverbs 3:5

                        My soul yearns for you in the night; in the morning my spirit longs for you. When your judgements come upon the earth, the people of the world learn righteousness.
                        Isaiah 26:9

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                          If it was pretty, loud, shiney, or made me feel good I wanted it. I was the poster boy for sneaky sin. Does satan come into play, sure. Do I place all blame on him, no. He has footprints on his back where I ran him over trying to get to the feel good. I am so grateful that God has forgiven me and is changing me. I am sinful and need a Savior, I got one and am forgiven. Praise the Lord. I like my life so much better walking in the Lord.
                          thanks for that Gregg

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tayariswife View Post
                            yes. always. people make thier own choices. they are responsible for the consequences.
                            thank you very much tayariswif

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by oscarkipling View Post
                              Are people (humans) ever to blame for anything? if so when? If not why?
                              Sure they are, from devestating wars that kill millions of people down to their own personal and moral decisions.

                              By the way, I love your avaitars. I recognize the man in your current one, Edgar Allen Poe, but not the two men you had pictures of before him. Keep them coming!
                              Philipians 4:13- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

                              Isaiah 41:13 For I the Lord your God will hold your right hand, saying to you, "fear not I will help you."

                              Psalm 150:5
                              Praise Him with loud cymbals!
                              Praise Him with clashing cymbals!

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