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    Walking in the Spirit

    I was listening to a preacher this morning talking about walking in the Spirit, and he referenced his opposition to something which is prevalent in many churches' teachings. He stated that the common thought is that in order to "walk in the Spirit" a believer must stop walking in the flesh. In other words, the order most commonly taught is:
    1. Stop walking in the flesh
    2. Start walking in the Spirit
    However, the order of scripture is:
    1. Start walking in the Spirit
    2. Stop walking in the flesh
    His point was that we do not stop sinning in order to walk in the Spirit, but rather we must walk in the Spirit in order to stop sinning. He was making reference to the common deception that "walking in the Spirit" is a matter of working sin out of our lives in order to get to another destination that we are currently not in. The truth is that we must recognize that we are already in the destination we need to be in, and by abiding in the knowledge of such a destination we will not identify with or fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

    Put differently, if we say we have to get this, that or the other out of our lives in order to "walk in the Spirit" then we deny the fact that God has already given us everything we need to live a life of godliness. The truth is that God has already given us all things pertaining to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3), and He has already created us in true righteousness and holiness (Ephesians 4:24). We are holy and righteous already, and if we do not abide in that knowledge then we are not "walking in the Spirit" and we will inevitably fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

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    "What you do does not define who you are; it's who you are that defines what you do."

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    I think we were watching the same person on TV this morning! He is exactly right! We cannot clean up the fleshiness of our lives if we are not living according to the Spirit. When we train our minds to be conscious of the Lord Jesus Christ and all He has blessed us with in our spirits--His perfect standing in God, we are able to train our minds---renew them---to override that which is see, heard, tasted, smelled and felt and make it conform to what the word of God says.

    That is overcoming!

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    Read correctly with an eastern mind set, Ecclesiastes is a complete guide to walking in the Spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalReality View Post
    I was listening to a preacher this morning talking about walking in the Spirit, and he referenced his opposition to something which is prevalent in many churches' teachings. He stated that the common thought is that in order to "walk in the Spirit" a believer must stop walking in the flesh. In other words, the order most commonly taught is:
    1. Stop walking in the flesh
    2. Start walking in the Spirit
    However, the order of scripture is:
    1. Start walking in the Spirit
    2. Stop walking in the flesh
    His point was that we do not stop sinning in order to walk in the Spirit, but rather we must walk in the Spirit in order to stop sinning. He was making reference to the common deception that "walking in the Spirit" is a matter of working sin out of our lives in order to get to another destination that we are currently not in. The truth is that we must recognize that we are already in the destination we need to be in, and by abiding in the knowledge of such a destination we will not identify with or fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

    Put differently, if we say we have to get this, that or the other out of our lives in order to "walk in the Spirit" then we deny the fact that God has already given us everything we need to live a life of godliness. The truth is that God has already given us all things pertaining to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3), and He has already created us in true righteousness and holiness (Ephesians 4:24). We are holy and righteous already, and if we do not abide in that knowledge then we are not "walking in the Spirit" and we will inevitably fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

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    I agree with him X 10000. I've been yelling this exact thing to anybody who would listen for 2 years. LOL.

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    Here's another Scriptural example of what he is talking about:

    James 4:

    7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

    1. Submit yourselves to God
    2. Resist the devil

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    The correct order is:

    1. Get in right relationship with God

    2. Walk in the Spirit

    3. Cease from sin.

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    Ga 5:16 This I (Paul)say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
    2 Ti 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepherdsword View Post
    Ga 5:16 This I (Paul)say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
    Yes, that was the passage of scripture he was referencing.

    Walking in the Spirit is possible through recognizing who we are in Christ and believing that He has set us free from all bondages of the enemy. When we recognize and believe the fact that God has already created us in true righteousness and holiness and there is nothing of this world that we are enslaved to, it is then that we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. We must recognize that those old lusts aren't who we are anymore. We died to that, and any temptations or thoughts otherwise are just a tactic of the devil to try and draw us back into the old man.
    "What you do does not define who you are; it's who you are that defines what you do."

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    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalReality View Post
    I was listening to a preacher this morning talking about walking in the Spirit, and he referenced his opposition to something which is prevalent in many churches' teachings. He stated that the common thought is that in order to "walk in the Spirit" a believer must stop walking in the flesh. In other words, the order most commonly taught is:
    1. Stop walking in the flesh
    2. Start walking in the Spirit
    However, the order of scripture is:
    1. Start walking in the Spirit
    2. Stop walking in the flesh
    His point was that we do not stop sinning in order to walk in the Spirit, but rather we must walk in the Spirit in order to stop sinning. He was making reference to the common deception that "walking in the Spirit" is a matter of working sin out of our lives in order to get to another destination that we are currently not in. The truth is that we must recognize that we are already in the destination we need to be in, and by abiding in the knowledge of such a destination we will not identify with or fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

    Put differently, if we say we have to get this, that or the other out of our lives in order to "walk in the Spirit" then we deny the fact that God has already given us everything we need to live a life of godliness. The truth is that God has already given us all things pertaining to life and godliness (2 Peter 1:3), and He has already created us in true righteousness and holiness (Ephesians 4:24). We are holy and righteous already, and if we do not abide in that knowledge then we are not "walking in the Spirit" and we will inevitably fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

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    So, you equate walking in the flesh as sinning? When Paul talked about walking in the flesh and walking in the spirit I don't think he was talking about sinning or not sinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroRog View Post
    So, you equate walking in the flesh as sinning? When Paul talked about walking in the flesh and walking in the spirit I don't think he was talking about sinning or not sinning.
    That's exactly what Paul meant! All that is not of faith is sin. We are unable to stop sinning in our own strength. Jesus Christ provides a way out. When we walk in the Spirit we do NOT fulfill the desires of the flesh. We are content in the Lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by episkopos View Post
    That's exactly what Paul meant! All that is not of faith is sin. We are unable to stop sinning in our own strength. Jesus Christ provides a way out. When we walk in the Spirit we do NOT fulfill the desires of the flesh. We are content in the Lord.
    Really? Can you show me from the passage of scripture that sin, and not something else was the main topic of his discourse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalReality View Post
    I was listening to a preacher this morning talking about walking in the Spirit, and he referenced his opposition to something which is prevalent in many churches' teachings. He stated that the common thought is that in order to "walk in the Spirit" a believer must stop walking in the flesh. In other words, the order most commonly taught is:
    1. Stop walking in the flesh
    2. Start walking in the Spirit
    However, the order of scripture is:
    1. Start walking in the Spirit
    2. Stop walking in the flesh
    ...
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    A man cannot walk two paths simultaneously. As we depart from one path, we will begin walking the other. I do not believe this is a 'do one first and then the other will follow later'. I believe that as we begin walking more to the east, we will at the very same instance begin walking less to the west. One cannot say that they can do the one before and without doing the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroRog View Post
    Really? Can you show me from the passage of scripture that sin, and not something else was the main topic of his discourse?
    Romans 8

    The wages of sin is death. If we walk according to the flesh we will die. So walking according to the flesh is sin. If there was sin in the Spirit then the wages of the sin in Spirit would be death as well. But there is no sin in Christ. He is without blemish; just as they are who put on Christ.

    Walking in the Spirit is to walk in the new nature in Christ. Otherwise we are walking as carnal men in the old Adamic nature.

    So a Christian isn't trying to get sins under control...the issue is with sin as in the nature of sin...a life alienated from God. Once a living link is made with God in Christ, the link with the flesh can be disregarded as it is superceded by a greater power. That is as long as one abides in Christ and denies the flesh.

    So Paul is not concerned with sins...but sin as a nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by episkopos View Post
    Romans 8

    The wages of sin is death. If we walk according to the flesh we will die. So walking according to the flesh is sin. If there was sin in the Spirit then the wages of the sin in Spirit would be death as well. But there is no sin in Christ. He is without blemish; just as they are who put on Christ.

    Walking in the Spirit is to walk in the new nature in Christ. Otherwise we are walking as carnal men in the old Adamic nature.

    So a Christian isn't trying to get sins under control...the issue is with sin as in the nature of sin...a life alienated from God. Once a living link is made with God in Christ, the link with the flesh can be disregarded as it is superceded by a greater power. That is as long as one abides in Christ and denies the flesh.

    So Paul is not concerned with sins...but sin as a nature.
    But can you show me from the scriptures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by episkopos View Post
    The correct order is:

    1. Get in right relationship with God

    2. Walk in the Spirit

    3. Cease from sin.
    Amen.

    Love the Lord your God with ALL your heart, and with ALL your soul, and with ALL your strength, and with ALL your MIND.
    Don't seek too much knowledge. You just may be putting more weight on your shoulders than you're able to bare. Let God be the one to decide how quickly you grow.

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