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    End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    There's a debate in the Arena this week between WPM and The Beginner and they will be discussing the nature and timing of the resurrection and judgement from their respective Amillennial and Premillennial perspectives. The title of the debate is "One or Two Resurrections/Judgments?"

    You can find the debate here.

    Check it out if you'd like, and comment on the proceedings in the Peanut Gallery, found here. Look forward to seeing you!
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    Twelve is the number of government. Thus, it is quite apropos that I am on my way towards wielding the power of twelve bars - each bar like, say, a tribe.....or a star.....or, maybe an apostle. A blue apostle. Like apostle smurfs. Does anyone remember smurfs? And all the controversy about them being from the devil? It's probably bad that I juxtaposed "apostle" and "smurf" in the same sentence. But then, I probably lost you at "blue apostle". Yes, my friends, this is what "rare jewel of a person" is actually implying. "Rare Jewel of a Person" really means, "Potentially Insane".

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    Hi I knew here how do you start a thread on this site?
    thanks

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    Quote Originally Posted by marty fox View Post
    Hi I knew here how do you start a thread on this site?
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    Marty, go to whatever 'forum' where you'd like to start a thread, and click on it. For example, if its about 'End Times', go to that forum. There it will list all the ongoing conversations. At the top left, you'll see 'Post New Thread'.

    Here's the Forums Index page (or just click on FORUM at the top of any page): http://bibleforums.org/forum.php
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    "Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name!" (Every time we speak of the Lord, or even THINK of him--its written down in a book of remembrance!)

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    Thanks
    How about sending message to someone?

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    Quote Originally Posted by marty fox View Post
    Thanks
    How about sending message to someone?
    Marty, your Private Messaging is turned off. Go to 'SETTINGS' at the top of the page. Then scroll down to PRIVATE MESSAGING and click it to turn it on. Then you can send private messages and receive them.

    I hope this helps.
    My favorite scripture: Malachi 3:16

    "Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name!" (Every time we speak of the Lord, or even THINK of him--its written down in a book of remembrance!)

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Diggindeeper View Post
    Marty, your Private Messaging is turned off. Go to 'SETTINGS' at the top of the page. Then scroll down to PRIVATE MESSAGING and click it to turn it on. Then you can send private messages and receive them.

    I hope this helps.
    Thanks again you are very helpful and thanks for the support.

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Diggindeeper View Post
    Marty, your Private Messaging is turned off. Go to 'SETTINGS' at the top of the page. Then scroll down to PRIVATE MESSAGING and click it to turn it on. Then you can send private messages and receive them.

    I hope this helps.
    Sorry I clicked settings and scrolled down but couldn't find private messaging are you sure that is what it says? I tried to send messages but it says that it is turned off and turn it on by editing your profile but I can't find anything that says that

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    For those interested, I have made my response to the Beginner.
    "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

    http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/

    WPM

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    For those interested, the Beginner has just response to submission.
    "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

    http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/

    WPM

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    For those interested, I have just submitted my submission on the general resurrection.
    "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

    http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/

    WPM

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    For those following, I have just posted my rebuttal to WPM on the General Resurrection

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    I have given my final reply to the discussion on the Resurrection. I aim to write my overall conclusion in this next few days. The debate concludes on Easter Friday.
    "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

    http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/

    WPM

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    My last response was just posted... Were about to submit conclusions

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    I have just made my Concluding Statement. For those interested, I feel it is my most important post yet since I come to this Forum. I hope it helps you!
    "ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

    http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/

    WPM

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    Re: End-Times Debate: "One or Two Resurrections / Judgments?"

    I am late to the party, but..... Since WPM opens up the debate with this:

    Romans 14:10-12 says, we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

    It is clear this is referring to a general judgment of all mankind.
    I quit reading the debate right there, I detected a serious error. It is NOT clear at all that Paul means "all mankind" as WPM states. When Paul says "all men" he means all men, and when he says "us" he means believers (the many who shall be saved). WPM rather conveniently left off the first bit of verse 10 which says:

    10Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God;

    The Beginner points out this error in more detail. Such a serious mistake is a ship sinker so early on in the debate. All are judged, but that fact is not at all to support the idea that all are judged in the same single occasion. Hard not to party for a slam dunk for the pre-mil side.

    (will try to read through more of the debate later, see if there are any other nuggets in there from either side)

    All the best

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    As the "thief" in the night, Christ is going to suddenly appear on the throne of Israel - not the antichrist.

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