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    Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!

    Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!!

    Matthew 8:11-12
    , "Many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven: but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into
    outer darkness
    : there shall be
    weeping and gnashing of teeth
    ."

    Matthew 13:41-42
    , "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a
    furnace of fire
    :
    there shall be wailing
    and gnashing of teeth."

    Matthew 13:49-50
    , "So shall it be at the end of the world
    : the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just
    ,
    and shallcast them intothe furnace of fire
    : there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

    Yes, hell is truly a place of eternal torment. Why choose to go there??

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    Re: Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gismys_18 View Post
    Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!!

    Matthew 8:11-12
    , "Many shall come from the east and the west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven: but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into
    outer darkness
    : there shall be
    weeping and gnashing of teeth
    ."

    Matthew 13:41-42
    , "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a
    furnace of fire
    :
    there shall be wailing
    and gnashing of teeth."

    Matthew 13:49-50
    , "So shall it be at the end of the world
    : the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just
    ,
    and shallcast them intothe furnace of fire
    : there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

    Yes, hell is truly a place of eternal torment. Why choose to go there??
    All the verses you quote seem to be referring to Hades, at the end of this age, at the beginning of the millennium. Hades is temporary according to Rev 20, and yes it's correct to warn people about temporary Hades. Luke 16 show us that right from this age the unsaved are thrown into Hades. Rev 20 states that Hades gives up it's dead and Hades is destroyed at the end of the millennium.

    The unsaved are only thrown into the eternal lake of fire at the end of the millennium, 1000 years after those verses you quoted.

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    Abaddon – Translated form Hebrew Abaddown derives from the root Abad meaning a Wonder away, Lose oneself, also implemented as Perishing and Destruction
    Sheol – Translated from Hebrew has a same meaning as a Greek word Hades that is the world of the dead. Sheol also could have other meanings such as Hell, Grave, and Pit
    Hades – Translated from Greek as Grave or Hell
    Gehenna - Greek word, often used in the Russian Bible, means Hell, Hades, Sheol, a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Information provided by Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary Concordance, and by Greek Dictionary of the New Testament, both by James Strong, Key Study Bible – KSB


    All these names above refer to the “World of Dead.” Hell on the other hand is not the “world” but just a part of the “World of Dead.” When Bible refers to one of these names, generally it means the “World of Dead.”

    Matthew 8.11-12
    11."I tell you, many will come from east and west, and will eat with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of Heaven,
    12.while the heirs of the Kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

    Luke 8.31
    Jesus healed the Gerasene demoniac, and demons begged Him not to send them (demons) into abyss.
    31.They begged Him not to order them to go back into the abyss.

    Luke 12.46
    46.the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him, and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers."

    2Peter 2.4
    4.If GOD did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of deepest darkness to be kept until the judgment,

    Jude 1.6-7
    6.And angels who did not kept their own domain, but abandoned their proper adobe, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness, for the judgment of the great Day.

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    Re: Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!

    How about love the lost enough to share with them the goodness of God?

    Romans 2:4 "Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    How about love the lost enough to share with them the goodness of God?

    Romans 2:4 "Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?"
    Because everybody knows that the line "or you'll go to hell and then you'll be sorry" is far more effective at persuading people than showing them we actually care about them. It works better still if shouted at them, especially if we never miss a chance to tell them that they are sinners. You know, just like Jesus did. Like the woman caught in adultery - "go and sin no more, or you'll go to hell and then you'll be sorry"? The Samaritan woman at the well - "get me some water or you'll go to hell and then you'll be sorry"?

    Oh, wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonajero View Post
    Because everybody knows that the line "or you'll go to hell and then you'll be sorry" is far more effective at persuading people than showing them we actually care about them. It works better still if shouted at them, especially if we never miss a chance to tell them that they are sinners. You know, just like Jesus did. Like the woman caught in adultery - "go and sin no more, or you'll go to hell and then you'll be sorry"? The Samaritan woman at the well - "get me some water or you'll go to hell and then you'll be sorry"?

    Oh, wait...
    Only if printed on a posterboard placard in at least 8 inch letters, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    Only if printed on a posterboard placard in at least 8 inch letters, right?
    A posterboard in letters three feet high works. Shouting it at someone as loudly as possible works. That has more impact because then everybody within earshot can see how righteous you are in calling out that horrible sinner for their misdeeds. Maybe others within earshot will realise that they, too, are horrible sinners and preemptively repent before you start shouting at them.

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    Re: Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!

    Quote Originally Posted by alex2165 View Post
    Abaddon – Translated form Hebrew Abaddown derives from the root Abad meaning a Wonder away, Lose oneself, also implemented as Perishing and Destruction
    Sheol – Translated from Hebrew has a same meaning as a Greek word Hades that is the world of the dead. Sheol also could have other meanings such as Hell, Grave, and Pit
    Hades – Translated from Greek as Grave or Hell
    Gehenna - Greek word, often used in the Russian Bible, means Hell, Hades, Sheol, a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Information provided by Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary Concordance, and by Greek Dictionary of the New Testament, both by James Strong, Key Study Bible – KSB


    All these names above refer to the “World of Dead.” Hell on the other hand is not the “world” but just a part of the “World of Dead.” When Bible refers to one of these names, generally it means the “World of Dead.”

    Matthew 8.11-12
    11."I tell you, many will come from east and west, and will eat with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the Kingdom of Heaven,
    12.while the heirs of the Kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

    Luke 8.31
    Jesus healed the Gerasene demoniac, and demons begged Him not to send them (demons) into abyss.
    31.They begged Him not to order them to go back into the abyss.

    Luke 12.46
    46.the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him, and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers."

    2Peter 2.4
    4.If GOD did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of deepest darkness to be kept until the judgment,

    Jude 1.6-7
    6.And angels who did not kept their own domain, but abandoned their proper adobe, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness, for the judgment of the great Day.
    Just to add to what you say, Hades is a temporary place. This is a hot uncomfortable place. There is no burning flesh there, because it is only for souls, even though they can feel the heat. Then Hades is thrown into the lake of fire, proving that Hades is a temporary place:

    The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

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    Re: Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!

    Here's an example of one guy that wanted desperately to warn others about hell..

    Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

    20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

    21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

    22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

    23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

    25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

    26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

    27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

    28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.


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    Re: Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jude View Post
    Here's an example of one guy that wanted desperately to warn others about hell..

    Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

    20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

    21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

    22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

    23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

    25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

    26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

    27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

    28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.


    Jude
    You are aware « hell » is just a translated word, the original Hebrew word is « sheol » which means grave, the common grave where everybody is buried and the Greek word « hades » which means the same.

    In Luke 16 the Lord is rebuking the Pharisee for their false teaching brought back to Israel from Babylon, this is what the Pharisee believed, not a Jew, nor a Christian. Why?

    Ecc. 9:5 « For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten ».

    Aristarkos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    You are aware « hell » is just a translated word, the original Hebrew word is « sheol » which means grave, the common grave where everybody is buried and the Greek word « hades » which means the same.

    In Luke 16 the Lord is rebuking the Pharisee for their false teaching brought back to Israel from Babylon, this is what the Pharisee believed, not a Jew, nor a Christian. Why?

    Ecc. 9:5 « For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten ».

    Aristarkos
    Is that translation promoting sympathy for the devil?

    Hell was created for the devil and his angels..

    Here we see Jesus giving us a description of that place..

    Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.


    God doesn't want any of us to go to that place why do you think he sent us his Son so that all who believe on him won't have to..


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    Re: Love the lost enough to warn them about the all to REAL HELL==Jesus does!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jude View Post
    Is that translation promoting sympathy for the devil?
    Seriously?

    Hell was created for the devil and his angels..
    Maybe you can show us where this is written?

    Here we see Jesus giving us a description of that place..

    Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.


    God doesn't want any of us to go to that place why do you think he sent us his Son so that all who believe on him won't have to..
    You can quote this all day long, all you do is believe what the Pharisee believe, which you are free to do.

    Aristarkos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    Seriously?



    Maybe you can show us where this is written?



    You can quote this all day long, all you do is believe what the Pharisee believe, which you are free to do.

    Aristarkos
    Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


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    Preachers didn't always preach the way some preachers preach today..

    Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God by

    Jonathan Edwards
    (1703-1758)

    The use of this awful subject may be for awakening unconverted persons in this congregation. This you have heard is the case of every one of you that are without Christ. That world of misery, that lake of burning fire, is stretched out wide under you. There is the dreadful pit of the glowing flames of the wrath of God; there is hell's wide gaping mouth open; and you have nothing to stand upon, nor anything to take hold of; there is nothing between you and hell but the air; it is only the power and mere pleasure of God that holds you up.

    You probably are not cognizant of this; you find that you are kept out of hell, but do not see the hand of God in it; but look at other things, like your good health, your care of your own life, and the means you use for your own preservation. But indeed these things are nothing; if God should withdraw His hand, they would no more keep you from falling, than thin air would hold a person up that is suspended in it.

    Your wickedness makes you as heavy as lead, and adds a downwards tendency with great weight and pressure towards hell; and if God should let you go, you would immediately sink and swiftly descend and plunge into the bottomless gulf; and your good health, and your own care and prudence, and best plans for salvation, and all your righteousness, would have no more influence to uphold you and keep you out of hell, than a spider's web would have to stop a falling rock. Were it not for the sovereign pleasure of God, the earth would not bear you for one moment; for you are a burden to it: the creation groans with you; the animal is made subject to the bondage of your corruption, not willingly; the sun does not willingly shine upon you to give you light to serve sin and Satan; the earth does not willingly yield her fruits to satisfy your lusts; nor is it willingly a stage for your wickedness to be acted upon; the air does not willingly serve you for breath to maintain the flame of life in your vitals, while you spend your life in the service of God's enemies.

    http://www.biblebb.com/files/edwards/je-sinners.htm


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    Constantinople and Istanbul sound different, but they're not.
    Jesus, the Word made flesh, Christ, the Holy Spirit, is one God.
    That old serpent, the Devil, who is Satan and Lucifer.

    Hell, Hades, Gehenna, grave, pit, outer darkness... Whatever you want to call it, you do not want to end up there.
    Descriptions and names of the same place.
    John 10 (KJV)
    27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
    28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
    29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

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