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    The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    In the current time of August 3, 2018 AD in the Gregorian calendar, we are in Av 22, 5991 YB and it will be 5992 YB in Tishrei 10 of the current year in 2018 AD, based on the lunar months and days of Jewish Calendar that God intended man to base our months on, new moon to new moon, yet to avoid confusion with other calendars with their own counted years, this year is designated differently from the Anno Mundi designation of “AM”, since YB represents the actual true year since the beginning, where “YB” means “Year since the Beginning” in English, where approximately 5,992 years have passed since the beginning of creation, where this number can be calculated with precision counting the known genealogies from Adam to Terah, which is around 1,878 years, then the known timelines from Terah to King Jehoiakim, which is around 1,495 years to around 600 BC, which was also around the start of the Babylonian captivity, and then from King Jehoiakim to the anointing of Christ around 26 AD, which is around 627 years, which sums to exactly 4,000 years, and since almost 1,992 years have passed since the anointing of Christ in the Year 4000 YB, then in Tishrei 10 of this current year in 2018 AD will be the Year 5992 YB. It is believed and officially said we are in the Year 5778 AM, but this is not the true year since creation.

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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    In China it's currently the year of the Dog.

    Well, according to the math anyway....

    An ordinary year has 12 months, a leap year has 13 months.

    An ordinary year has 353, 354, or 355 days, a leap year has 383, 384, or 385 days.

    When determining what a Chinese year looks like, one must make a number of astronomical calculations:
    First, determine the dates for the new moons. Here, a new moon is the completely "black" moon (that is, when the moon is in conjunction with the sun), not the first visible crescent used in the Islamic and Hebrew calendars. The date of a new moon is the first day of a new month.

    Second, determine the dates when the sun’s longitude is a multiple of 30 degrees. (The sun’s longitude is 0 at Vernal Equinox, 90 at Summer Solstice, 180 at Autumnal Equinox, and 270 at Winter Solstice.) These dates are called the Principal Terms and are used to determine the number of each month:


    • Principal Term 1 occurs when the sun’s longitude is 330 degrees.
    • Principal Term 2 occurs when the sun’s longitude is 0 degrees.
    • Principal Term 3 occurs when the sun’s longitude is 30 degrees. (etc.)
    • Principal Term 11 occurs when the sun’s longitude is 270 degrees.
    • Principal Term 12 occurs when the sun’s longitude is 300 degrees.

    Each month carries the number of the Principal Term that occurs in that month.
    In rare cases, a month may contain two Principal Terms; in this case the months numbers may have to be shifted. Principal Term 11 (Winter Solstice) must always fall in the 11th month.

    All the astronomical calculations are carried out for the meridian 120 degrees east of Greenwich. This roughly corresponds to the east coast of China.
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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    Quote Originally Posted by alchristfollower View Post
    In the current time of August 3, 2018 AD in the Gregorian calendar, we are in Av 22, 5991 YB and it will be 5992 YB in Tishrei 10 of the current year in 2018 AD, based on the lunar months and days of Jewish Calendar that God intended man to base our months on, new moon to new moon, yet to avoid confusion with other calendars with their own counted years, this year is designated differently from the Anno Mundi designation of “AM”, since YB represents the actual true year since the beginning, where “YB” means “Year since the Beginning” in English, where approximately 5,992 years have passed since the beginning of creation, where this number can be calculated with precision counting the known genealogies from Adam to Terah, which is around 1,878 years, then the known timelines from Terah to King Jehoiakim, which is around 1,495 years to around 600 BC, which was also around the start of the Babylonian captivity, and then from King Jehoiakim to the anointing of Christ around 26 AD, which is around 627 years, which sums to exactly 4,000 years, and since almost 1,992 years have passed since the anointing of Christ in the Year 4000 YB, then in Tishrei 10 of this current year in 2018 AD will be the Year 5992 YB. It is believed and officially said we are in the Year 5778 AM, but this is not the true year since creation.

    Something similar to that timeline can be seen in this video by Donald W. Patten: Cataclysm From Space 2800BC..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oor7Cl0rN7I


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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    Quote Originally Posted by Jude View Post
    Something similar to that timeline can be seen in this video by Donald W. Patten: Cataclysm From Space 2800BC..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oor7Cl0rN7I


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    Another excellent scene where the moon breaks away from the earth, hurling out of the solar system, can be seen in this video by Martin Laundau: Explostion From Space 1999AD..


    https://youtu.be/YAt60HrSkzI

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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    Quote Originally Posted by David Taylor View Post
    Another excellent scene where the moon breaks away from the earth, hurling out of the solar system, can be seen in this video by Martin Laundau: Explostion From Space 1999AD..


    https://youtu.be/YAt60HrSkzI
    What does that have to do with the timeline alchristfollower presented?


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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    Quote Originally Posted by alchristfollower View Post
    In the current time of August 3, 2018 AD in the Gregorian calendar, we are in Av 22, 5991 YB and it will be 5992 YB in Tishrei 10 of the current year in 2018 AD, based on the lunar months and days of Jewish Calendar that God intended man to base our months on, new moon to new moon, yet to avoid confusion with other calendars with their own counted years, this year is designated differently from the Anno Mundi designation of “AM”, since YB represents the actual true year since the beginning, where “YB” means “Year since the Beginning” in English, where approximately 5,992 years have passed since the beginning of creation, where this number can be calculated with precision counting the known genealogies from Adam to Terah, which is around 1,878 years, then the known timelines from Terah to King Jehoiakim, which is around 1,495 years to around 600 BC, which was also around the start of the Babylonian captivity, and then from King Jehoiakim to the anointing of Christ around 26 AD, which is around 627 years, which sums to exactly 4,000 years, and since almost 1,992 years have passed since the anointing of Christ in the Year 4000 YB, then in Tishrei 10 of this current year in 2018 AD will be the Year 5992 YB. It is believed and officially said we are in the Year 5778 AM, but this is not the true year since creation.

    We are given a riddle by the Lord to solve. Many Christians secretly would like to pinpoint the various events set before us in prophecy, especially the coming of the Lord. So not only does the Lord advise us Christians not to look to such things, but to be ever "watchful" with our eyes turned to heaven on an hourly basis, but He throws a spanner in the works for those who would calculate. Here it is;

    In 1 Kings 6:1 we learn, "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel had come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD" That is, from the day they left Egypt to the beginning of building of Solomon's Temple is 480 years.

    But Paul, under inspiration, gives the following calculation in Acts 13:16-22:

    16 "Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.
    17 The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.
    18 And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness.
    19 And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.
    20 And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.
    21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.
    22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will."


    The years of the Wilderness (about) ......... 40
    The years of the Judges ........................ 450
    The years of Saul' reign .......................... 40
    The years of David's reign ....................... 40
    The years till Solomon started the Temple ... 3*
    TOTAL years ....................................... 573

    Now, what say the calculators?


    * If the worked started in the fourth year of Solomon's reign then this year cannot be counted as a complete year.

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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    Quote Originally Posted by Walls View Post
    We are given a riddle by the Lord to solve. Many Christians secretly would like to pinpoint the various events set before us in prophecy, especially the coming of the Lord. So not only does the Lord advise us Christians not to look to such things, but to be ever "watchful" with our eyes turned to heaven on an hourly basis, but He throws a spanner in the works for those who would calculate. Here it is;

    In 1 Kings 6:1 we learn, "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel had come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD" That is, from the day they left Egypt to the beginning of building of Solomon's Temple is 480 years.

    But Paul, under inspiration, gives the following calculation in Acts 13:16-22:

    16 "Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience.
    17 The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.
    18 And about the time of forty years suffered he their manners in the wilderness.
    19 And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.
    20 And after that he gave unto them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet.
    21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years.
    22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will."


    The years of the Wilderness (about) ......... 40
    The years of the Judges ........................ 450
    The years of Saul' reign .......................... 40
    The years of David's reign ....................... 40
    The years till Solomon started the Temple ... 3*
    TOTAL years ....................................... 573

    Now, what say the calculators?


    * If the worked started in the fourth year of Solomon's reign then this year cannot be counted as a complete year.
    The 93 years difference is easily explained if we acknowledge there are two time calculations in Scripture, one human and one Divine. They are Lo-Ammi periods where God's clock doesn't tick:

    8 y. under Chushan-Rishathaim, Judges 3:8
    18 y. under Moab, Judges 3:14
    20 y. under the Canaanites, Judges 4:3
    7 y. under the Medianites, Judges 6:1
    40 y. under the Philistines, 1 Sam. 4:18
    ———
    93 years

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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    The 93 years difference is easily explained if we acknowledge there are two time calculations in Scripture, one human and one Divine. They are Lo-Ammi periods where God's clock doesn't tick:

    8 y. under Chushan-Rishathaim, Judges 3:8
    18 y. under Moab, Judges 3:14
    20 y. under the Canaanites, Judges 4:3
    7 y. under the Medianites, Judges 6:1
    40 y. under the Philistines, 1 Sam. 4:18
    ———
    93 years

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    Marvelous! Well done. The 93 years are accounted for. But that still leaves the "Calculators" with a dilemma. Which years do we take? Actual, or Prophetic? This difference of 93 years is plumb in the middle of any calculation like the OP has. And then, if God's "clock stops ticking" when Israel is under chastisement, what then of the years between the the 69th and 70th "seven" of Daniel Chapter 9. Should we leave out 30 AD till now? See the problem?

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    Re: The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

    Quote Originally Posted by Walls View Post
    Marvelous! Well done. The 93 years are accounted for. But that still leaves the "Calculators" with a dilemma. Which years do we take? Actual, or Prophetic? This difference of 93 years is plumb in the middle of any calculation like the OP has. And then, if God's "clock stops ticking" when Israel is under chastisement, what then of the years between the the 69th and 70th "seven" of Daniel Chapter 9. Should we leave out 30 AD till now? See the problem?
    It is really as simple as I said. The Holy Spirit learns us through Paul that the years on earth just go on — which only makes sense — however the years of the Lord do not. So according to this from approximately when the dispensation of the mystery (Greek text) started — ± 62 years AD when this was revealed to Paul —, Israel went 8 years later into it's longest Lo-Ammi period to date and ever will be. So, yes of course God's clock doesn't tick right now, God isn't counting the years now. That's why the 69th and 70th yearweek of Daniel are way separated for us, but not for Scripture, Scripture sees them almost right after each other.

    I know you will not agree with me, but it solves all problems and I do not have to spiritualize a single word from Scripture, not even the New Jerusalem. If you see the purpose of the aions and the dispensations, Scripture fits like a glove. But it doesn't make you popular though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    It is really as simple as I said. The Holy Spirit learns us through Paul that the years on earth just go on — which only makes sense — however the years of the Lord do not. So according to this from approximately when the dispensation of the mystery (Greek text) started — ± 62 years AD when this was revealed to Paul —, Israel went 8 years later into it's longest Lo-Ammi period to date and ever will be. So, yes of course God's clock doesn't tick right now, God isn't counting the years now. That's why the 69th and 70th yearweek of Daniel are way separated for us, but not for Scripture, Scripture sees them almost right after each other.

    I know you will not agree with me, but it solves all problems and I do not have to spiritualize a single word from Scripture, not even the New Jerusalem. If you see the purpose of the aions and the dispensations, Scripture fits like a glove. But it doesn't make you popular though.

    Aristarkos
    Interesting. You make the "Lo-ammi" period from 70 AD, but Daniel makes it from Messiah cut off - that is, about 30 AD. I wonder when Hosea 6:2 starts from? Be that as it may, what is difficult is that in the scheme of things, no New Testament years can be reckoned, for Israel is under foreign kings and under chastisement - just like your calculation of the 93 years. But now it is the years since the Messiah is cut off - 2,000 years. That is a huge gap.

    Just thinking ...

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