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    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    Please stick to the OP of this thread.
    I regard diversions like this, as a covert attempt to derail the thread.
    I think you mean "cow-vert". Get it? COW-vert?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    First I think with all this cow talk it's high time we had a cow video!

    Well, there you go, partner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    Fenris, my friend, would you please be so kind as to give us poor Gentiles a your understanding and opinion of the Temple Institute?
    Um... so yeah. The third temple isn't being built anytime soon, unless the messiah comes. For one, according to Jewish law, Jews aren't even allowed on the holiest parts of the temple mount. A second problem is that nobody is really sure which the holiest parts even are, which means the temple couldn't be rebuilt because where would the holy of holies even be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John777 View Post
    the red heifer is significant as it is used to dedicate the new temple which is going up soon in Jerusalem.
    What new temple? How is it that posters on the internet know about it, but nobody else does?
    after that we will be in the Tribulation and the antichrist will rule from Jerusalem over the whole earth. Jewish people will see him as Messiah, the muzzies will see him as the Mahdi.
    Wow, Jews and Muslims are going to agree on a religious figure? Sounds like the messianic era is indeed at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    What new temple? How is it that posters on the internet know about it, but nobody else does?

    Wow, Jews and Muslims are going to agree on a religious figure? Sounds like the messianic era is indeed at hand.
    Well this puts the kibosh on the this thread's so called "peace plan:"

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ashington.html


    Trump administration closing PLO mission in Washington

    The Trump administration announced Monday that it is closing the Palestinian Liberation Organization's mission in Washington, following attempts by the group to get an international court to prosecute Israel for alleged war crimes.

    The announcement marks the latest blow by the United States against the Palestinians amid a stalled Mideast peace process.

    “The United States will use any means necessary to protect our citizens and those of our allies from unjust prosecution by this illegitimate court,” National Security Adviser John Bolton plans to say during a Monday afternoon speech to the Federalist Society. “The United States will always stand with our friend and ally, Israel.”

    Bolton is addressing the PLO decision in that speech, saying “The Trump administration will not keep the office open when the Palestinians refuse to take steps to start direct and meaningful negotiations with Israel.”

    He plans to say: “The United States supports a direct and robust peace process, and we will not allow the ICC, or any other organization, to constrain Israel’s right to self-defense.”

    The White House has reportedly mulled shutting down of the PLO mission in Washington since last November, unless the Palestinian leadership enters serious peace talks with Israel.

    Bolton’s announcement on closing the mission adheres to a provision in U.S. law saying the PLO mission must close if the Palestinians try to get the ICC to prosecute Israelis for crimes against Palestinians.

    “While the Court welcomes the membership of the so-called State of Palestine, it has threatened Israel—a liberal, democratic nation—with investigation into its actions to defend citizens from terrorist attacks in the West Bank and Gaza,” Bolton plans to say. “There has also been a suggestion that the ICC will investigate Israeli construction of housing projects on the West Bank.”

    The U.S. does not currently recognize the Palestinian territories as an independent state, though the United Nations General Assembly overwhelmingly voted in 2012 to recognize Palestine as a "non-member observer state."

    Heather Nauert, a spokeswoman for the U.S. State Department, said on Monday that the announcement does not change the U.S. stance that direct negotiations are the way to forge a peace deal, but warned the PLO against any rash actions.

    “The United States continues to believe that direct negotiations between the two parties are the only way forward,” Nauert said in a statement. “This action should not be exploited by those who seek to act as spoilers to distract from the imperative of reaching a peace agreement. We are not retreating from our efforts to achieve a lasting and comprehensive peace.”

    Closing the PLO mission in Washington almost certainly will stiffen the Palestinians' opposition to any peace plan now being worked on by Trump's Middle East point men, Jared Kushner and Jason Greenblatt.

    The Palestinian leadership has been openly hostile to any proposal from the administration, citing what it says is a pro-Israel bias.

    Senior Palestinian diplomat Saeb Erekat said the U.S. decision was designed "to protect Israeli crimes" and added that the move would not stop Palestinian legal action against Israel.

    "We reiterate that the rights of the Palestinian people are not for sale, that we will not succumb to US threats and bullying," Erekat said in a statement. "Accordingly, we continue to call upon the International Criminal Court to open its immediate investigation into Israeli crimes."

    One issue the U.S. has had with the Palestinian Authority had been its stipends paid to the families of Palestinians killed, injured or jailed for attacks on Israel. Israel and the Trump administration have repeatedly demanded that those payments from a so-called "martyrs' fund" be halted because they encourage terrorism. PA President Mahmoud Abbas has refused to do so.

    The State Department announced earlier this month that the United States is ending its decades of funding for the U.N. agency that helps Palestinian refugees. A week earlier, the administration slashed bilateral U.S. aid for projects in the West Bank and Gaza.

    The U.S. supplies nearly 30 percent of the total budget of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, or UNRWA, and had been demanding reforms in the way it is run. The department said in a written statement the U.S. "will no longer commit further funding to this irredeemably flawed operation." The decision cuts nearly $300 million of planned support.

    Besides Monday’s announcement and the previous withdrawal of aid, the Trump administration dealt another blow to the Palestinians back in May when the U.S. moved its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to contested Jerusalem.

    On the day the embassy, opened Israel killed more than 60 Palestinians, including a 14-year-old girl, during protests that followed. It was the bloodiest day since a war between Hamas and Israel ended in 2014.

    Israel said it is defending its border and accuses Hamas, the Islamic militant group that rules Gaza, of trying to carry out attacks under the cover of the protests.
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    [QUOTE=keck553;3465976]Well this puts the kibosh on the this thread's so called "peace plan:"


    That's a little premature.
    Things will get very warm, when Trump delivers his speech at the UN. Just about all the world will support his proposals, they have all had enough of the Palestinians nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    What new temple? How is it that posters on the internet know about it, but nobody else does?

    Wow, Jews and Muslims are going to agree on a religious figure? Sounds like the messianic era is indeed at hand.
    Negotiations are already underway..

    Shimon Peres The Pope And A Plan For World Peace...

    https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Peres-...d-peace-374893

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Po...Vatican-374526


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    Gee....I hate to be the one to burst your bubble and break the news to you Jude.....but....ummmm......well....Shimon Peres is...well.....





    He’s dead.

    And Francis? He’s lost all his credibility and influence protecting child molesters. But I heard he does pray to the dead. Are those the negotiations you are referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    Gee....I hate to be the one to burst your bubble and break the news to you Jude.....but....ummmm......well....Shimon Peres is...well.....





    He’s dead.

    And Francis? He’s lost all his credibility and influence protecting child molesters. But I heard he does pray to the dead. Are those the negotiations you are referring to?

    Room temp........

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    Well this puts the kibosh on the this thread's so called "peace plan:"

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...ashington.html
    Freaking finally. They badmouth us every chance they get, make demands, give nothing...Why has their embassy been open all this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jude View Post
    Negotiations are already underway..

    Shimon Peres The Pope And A Plan For World Peace...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Freaking finally. They badmouth us every chance they get, make demands, give nothing...Why has their embassy been open all this time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Haha

    I like the one: “He’s worse than dead...”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProDeo View Post
    Or never.

    Since Pentecost God doesn't want to live in a temple any longer, but in Christians by the Holy Spirit. God gave Israel ±40 years to tear down the temple themselves. They did not. God used the Romans for that. Would He allow it to be rebuild?
    Exactly ProDeo, nicely said.

    I can’t even fathom attempting to rebuild the destroyed temple and reinstitute temple sacrifices after the finality of 70AD.

    The Jews are in the same boat as all of us now.

    The Messiah has come; the veil was torn in two,

    “It is finished”

    What moved Moshe Dayan in 1967? Maybe not what but WHO.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...t-1967/529365/

    Interesting article Pro!
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    I hope those who have posted on this thread will re-read their efforts and be very embarrassed.

    Hezbollah chief warns US-Iran war would also hit Israel
    by Reuters, Israel Hayom Staff June 2, 2019

    "Entire region will burn" if U.S. goes to war against Iran, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah says. Trump's forthcoming Middle East peace plan a "historic crime" that must be stopped, he states.

    It is very interesting that the enemy quotes prophecy of his own demise.
    The Bible has quite a few prophesies that say the Lord will do just that; burn the entire Middle East region.
    The Lord’s judgement/punishment of the nations, by fire from God’s storehouse: Deuteronomy 32:22,34-43, will be an explosion on the suns surface, Isaiah 30:26a, Isaiah 66:15-16, Malachi 4:1, Hebrews 10:27, 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17

    Joel 2:1-11 Sound the alarm! For the Day of the Lord’s wrath is coming. As the sun rises, a vast host [mass] will appear, the like has never been known.
    It advances in a devouring fire, behind is a leaping flame that leaves a desolate wasteland. Nothing can escape it, nothing can stop it and as it strikes, the earth quakes and the heavens thunder. Who can survive that dark and terrible Day?


    Isaiah 29:5-8 But, your enemies will become like dust, those ruthless hordes, like blown chaff. Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord Almighty, with earthquakes, thunder, storms and a blaze of devouring fire. All the nations warring against Mt Zion, will vanish, as a dream, like one who is hungry or thirsty; then wakes to find himself empty, so it will be with all those nations attacking Israel. Malachi 4:3

    Isaiah 66:16 The Lord will judge with fire and many will be slain by Him.
    Psalms 37:9-10 & 20 For evildoers will be no more, their place will be empty. Evil people will die, they will be incinerated and will go up in smoke.
    Malachi 4:1 & 3 The Day comes, burning like a furnace...on the Day the Lord takes action, all wicked peoples will be as ashes under your feet.
    Zephaniah 1:3 & 11 I shall destroy humans and animals. Dire distress will come upon all the godless peoples, their blood and guts will spill over the ground. Hosea 4:3
    Psalms 97:3-5 For My sword is ready and it descends upon those doomed for death. Fire goes ahead of the Lord and consumes His enemies on every side.

    The fire judgement on the Middle East, striking ‘in an instant’, will be a Coronal Mass Ejection: a sunstrike of unprecedented magnitude, the like has never been known.....paralleled by Matthew 24:21, and is the next prophesied event we can expect. It will be the Day that ‘comes as a thief’, sudden and unexpectedly. Zechariah 3:9, Isaiah 10:17, Psalms 83:13-18, Isaiah 34:5, Isaiah 30:25-28 & 30, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Revelation 6:12-17 - The Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

    It is quite a different event to what is described about the attack and destruction of Gog/Magog or of Armageddon, both to come later, in that order.

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