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    Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    "And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?

    Just asking.
    Shama - A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.): - X attentively, call (gather) together, X carefully, X certainly, consent, consider, be content, declare, X diligently, discern, give ear, (cause to, let, make to) hear (-ken, tell), X indeed, listen, make (a) noise, (be) obedient, obey, perceive, (make a) proclaim (-ation), publish, regard, report, shew (forth), (make a) sound, X surely, tell, understand, whosoever [heareth], witness

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louwrens Erasmus View Post
    "And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?

    Just asking.
    Not INSIDE the New Jerusalem, but OUTSIDE.
    The NHNE starts with the Millennium Kingdom.

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    The New Jerusalem is the church now.
    "MISSION: To rescue Christians enslaved by manmade religion and to bring them to the freedom of Jesus."

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    The New Jerusalem is the church now.
    It is the place Jesus is preparing for us.

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louwrens Erasmus View Post
    "And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?

    Just asking.
    I believe it means people who believed in Jesus during their lives on earth were made well by him. I think the tree of life symbolizes the Son of God and the waters flowing from his throne is the holy spirit. By him, believers are made one people of God.

    the leaf thereof for medicine....and to the strangers that sojourn among you...they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.
    Eze.47:12,22

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    Not INSIDE the New Jerusalem, but OUTSIDE.
    The NHNE starts with the Millennium Kingdom.
    It does not make sense as then the fruit will also only be available outside the New Jerusalem.
    Shama - A primitive root; to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.): - X attentively, call (gather) together, X carefully, X certainly, consent, consider, be content, declare, X diligently, discern, give ear, (cause to, let, make to) hear (-ken, tell), X indeed, listen, make (a) noise, (be) obedient, obey, perceive, (make a) proclaim (-ation), publish, regard, report, shew (forth), (make a) sound, X surely, tell, understand, whosoever [heareth], witness

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louwrens Erasmus View Post
    It does not make sense as then the fruit will also only be available outside the New Jerusalem.
    No the fruit are ONLY available INSIDE the New Jerusalem.
    However the PURPOSE of the fruit is for healing of the nations.
    The nations are OUTSIDE the NJ.
    So who is INSIDE?
    Those who have overcome - Rev 21:7
    Those who have been washed - Rev 22:14

    This picture is from Ezekiel 47.
    This shows a period of time when we are healed and are WITH God on earth. However there are still nations who need healing.
    I believe this is DURING the MK period of time.
    So we will take the fruit out of the city and to the nations. Some will receive and be healed and others will reject and remain cursed until the end.

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louwrens Erasmus View Post
    "And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?

    Just asking.
    When God made man he set before him FOUR things. (i) To be in His image and likeness, (ii) to subdue and rule the earth and its environs of sea and sky, (iii) to "fence about" and "bring to order" (lit. Heb.) a Garden of Pleasurable Fellowship where God would meet with man, and (iv) to be a Bride for the Man Jesus*. Man fell, so God, never one to tolerate chaos in His domain, and Almighty to see His Councils come to pass, in due time, started His recovery work with man. The Promises made to Abraham, among others, was that (i) Abraham's seed would possess the earth (Rom.4:13), that (ii) Abraham's seed would possess the Gates of his enemies (who were God's enemies then too), and that (iii) ALL families of the earth would be blessed by Abraham's seed. So we could expect the Bible to end somewhat like this;
    1. Abraham's Seed (Singular and Capital 'S'), Christ, and seed (plural and small 's') by birth of the Holy Spirit, possessing the earth, and Abraham's seed by birth of the flesh possessing the Land of Canaan (for it is promised as an "everlasting possession")
    2. Abraham's Seed, (i) Christ, having subdued and taken dominion of the earth from all imposters, (ii) Abraham's seed by rebirth joining Christ to rule the earth (for it is a matter of the Kingdom - Jn.3:3-5), and (iii) Abraham's seed by birth to the flesh hosting and serving Emmanuel (God with us on earth).
    3. The sum of these two consummated Promises would bring righteous rule on the earth. This in turn avoids God's curses, for the earth was cursed because of innocent blood shed, sexual offense and idol worship. With righteous rule and no curses, all remaining people, except those consigned to the Lake of Fire, will be blessed. In Proverbs 29:2 we learn the grand truth of Christ and the Church ruling the whole earth. "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn."

    BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM!

    Very few of the earth's population will accept Christ's Work and very few will believe and confess Him. Let's say 3% of all men who ever lived will embrace Christ. That means that only 3% have ETERNAL LIFE. How then will the other 97% continue to live after the White Throne? How will a man without Eternal Life live, say, ten million years? This is a valid question for, on the New Earth there is no more DEATH (Rev.21:4)! The answer is that the WORKS of Christ were enough for God to apply healing to any one of the NATIONS who starts to succumb. A "Garment" in Parable is one's works (Rev.19:8, etc.), and the Leaves of a Tree is its "covering" - its garment. In Matthew 21:19 and Mark 11:13, our Lord Jesus likens Judah to a Fig Tree - a Fig Tree which ONLY had leaves but NO fruit. The Jews were keeping the Law. Their Works were Lawful, but it had brought NO FRUIT, so it meets an untimely end. So also Luke 13:6-7). But Christ's Works are ACCEPTED by the Father. He is the VINE that has FRUIT AND LEAVES! The FRUIT is for those in the City - the Garden of Fellowship - the Church. They may benefit from the enjoyment of the FRUIT. They have no need of the Leaves for they have ETERNAL LIFE intrinsically.

    But the NATIONS (and Israel is one of the Nations - Deut.9:1), in order to live on for ever, need God to sustain them. And God will only do this on the basis of Christ's WORKS. In Romans 11:15 Paul speaks of Israel cast out, and then Israel grafted in again. It reads; "For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?" We can see the truth of the matter here. If Israel was to be "saved" by faith like we are, then the verse should read, "For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but ETERNAL LIFE?" Eternal Life is the promised result of FAITH. But Israel remain in unbelief and are restored by GRACE. There is no talk of faith. The restoration of Israel is based on them TURNING TO THE LAW. Moses says in Deuteronomy 30:1-5 that God would restore Israel if they TURNED TO WHAT MOSES WAS PREACHING THAT DAY - THE LAW. They only accept our Lord Jesus when He is SEEN. Hebrews 11:1 defines FAITH as the substance and evidence of things NOT SEEN. So Israel, when they are restored - receive NOT "Eternal Life" but RESURRECTION LIFE from the dead (Dan.12:2; Ezek.37; 1st Cor.15:23).

    It is not a question of whether there be sickness or not. That there is is confirmed in Isaiah 66:24 and Mark 9. Those who are in the Lake of Fire have "worms" and "fire" IN them. But if ONE of them dies then DEATH has not been conquered. Death will still rule. If ONE SINGLE member of the nations dies, Christ, "the LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT" (1st Cor.15:45) is NOT RULING. Death, the "last enemy" (1st Cor.15:26) will rule forever if there is ONE SINGLE DEAD MAN. So God, based on the Works of Christ, who was "MADE the Life-Giving Spirit" (1st Cor.15:45) allows men of the NATIONS who would normally die - to live. He heals them.


    *. I do not wish to enter the full discussion for time's sake, but it is clear from Ephesians 5:32 that Adam and Eve, man and wife, are but a picture of the real and mysterious issue of the universe - Christ and the Church.

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    Not INSIDE the New Jerusalem, but OUTSIDE.
    The NHNE starts with the Millennium Kingdom.
    FALSE!

    Rev 22:1-2 And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?


    The NHNE starts after the millennium, not with it. To understand this, we must look back at what is stated earlier.

    Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
    3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
    4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


    From the above, we understand the following:

    a-1. After the holy city (NJ) came down from heaven, the tabernacle of God (His Throne) also comes down to earth and behold, God the Father too comes to earth to dwell with us.
    a-2. I challenge you to prove that God the Father will be on earth during the millennium.

    b-1. According to Isaiah 65:20 death will still occur during the millennium.
    b-2. But after the MK is over and death and hell are judged and cast into hellfire (Rev 20:14). There will be no more death (Rev 21:4).

    The gross misinterpretation for many is their assumption that the nations in Rev 22:2 denotes ungodly nations. But this assumption is nonsensical if we consider the rest of the passage.

    3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

    4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

    5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.


    1. Is there any Christian who believes that unbelievers will still remian when God the Father and his throne comes down to earth?
    2. Why would God provide healing to nations that are ungodly and disobedient?
    3. If the ungodly nations have access to the tree of life and are able to see God's face (verse 4), then it upends everything we know about God and eschatology!

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louwrens Erasmus View Post
    "And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?

    Just asking.
    The fruit of healing is only inside the NJ; and only provided to the saved of the nations; not the unsaved.

    We are told this just 3 verses earlier....

    Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

    The only ones described as being outside of the NJ; are those who are cast into the Lake of Fire.

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and they may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    These are the same wicked first introduced earlier in chapter 21.

    Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone

    In the New Heavens and New Earth; within the New Jerusalem, John tells us: "and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be no more pain: for the former things are passed away."

    The curse upon Creation that started in Genesis; that Romans promised was groaning, but would end at the Revelation (Apokalypto); when we receive our eternal resurrected bodies; has arrived with the presentation of the NHNE.

    Romans 8:17 "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation (Greek: Apokalypto) of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. "

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trivalee View Post
    FALSE!
    Actually the TRUTH.

    Rev 22:1-2 And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?


    The NHNE starts after the millennium, not with it. To understand this, we must look back at what is stated earlier.
    I agree no sick people in the NJ, but the leaves ARE for healing of the nations which means there ARE people who need healing.
    So the FACT of the leaves (and the River of Life) states the opposite to your claim.

    Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
    3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
    4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.


    From the above, we understand the following:

    a-1. After the holy city (NJ) came down from heaven, the tabernacle of God (His Throne) also comes down to earth and behold, God the Father too comes to earth to dwell with us.
    a-2. I challenge you to prove that God the Father will be on earth during the millennium.
    Sorry, but the Throne of God comes down WITH the NJ, not after.
    As the NJ is the dwelling Jesus has prepared for His people, then this is where we will dwell DURING the Millennium.
    Scripture states we will be WITH Jesus. Where will Jesus be? In the NJ.
    Isaiah 65 & 66 speaks of the NHNE and it is from that passage which John quotes.
    That picture given in Isaiah 65 & 66 has people who are born, people who die and sinners.

    b-1. According to Isaiah 65:20 death will still occur during the millennium.
    b-2. But after the MK is over and death and hell are judged and cast into hellfire (Rev 20:14). There will be no more death (Rev 21:4).
    You confuse no more death in the ENTIRE world, with the no more death in the NJ which Rev 21:4 refers to.
    The GWToJ occurs AFTER the MK, we agree.
    However, you have TWO NHNE's as if the first NHNE spoken of in Isaiah 65 & 66 was insufficient.

    The gross misinterpretation for many is their assumption that the nations in Rev 22:2 denotes ungodly nations. But this assumption is nonsensical if we consider the rest of the passage.
    3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
    4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
    5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
    Scripturally "nations" refers to those who are NOT the people of God. This is true THROUGHOUT scripture.
    So the reason to assume this makes sense.
    Further BOTH Rev 21 and 22 speak of those who are OUTSIDE. This is where sinners are.
    In the OT the prophets ALSO speak of this time.

    1. Is there any Christian who believes that unbelievers will still remian when God the Father and his throne comes down to earth?
    2. Why would God provide healing to nations that are ungodly and disobedient?
    3. If the ungodly nations have access to the tree of life and are able to see God's face (verse 4), then it upends everything we know about God and eschatology!
    1. Yes as that is what scripture clearly states.
    2. What is the purpose? Judgement has occurred already, the wrath of God out poured. Yet there is a need for healing for the nations DURING the MK, or do you think the ENTIRE world is left to rot?
    Ezekiel 47 and Zech 14 and Isaiah 65 & 66 paint a different picture
    3. No the ungodly nations don't have access, because the Tree of Life is IN the NJ. They have no access into the NJ. We are told the gate is open but there is an angel on each gate. We are told ONLY those who wash their robes have access. The ONLY way for the people of the nations to receive healing is because those who live in the NJ (Believers) take it to them.

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Taylor View Post
    The fruit of healing is only inside the NJ; and only provided to the saved of the nations; not the unsaved.

    We are told this just 3 verses earlier....

    Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.

    The only ones described as being outside of the NJ; are those who are cast into the Lake of Fire.
    We are told that there are nations OUTSIDE who have kings who bring the GLORY of those nations into it. So clearly there are those outside who are NOT dogs/sinners. However the dogs and sinners are ONLY outside and never in.

    Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and they may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    These are the same wicked first introduced earlier in chapter 21.
    Again this shows that we will go in and out of the NJ, which means at times there will be those who are saved outside, mixing with those who are not allowed entry.

    Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone
    Indeed this is the final state, unless they wash their robes.

    In the New Heavens and New Earth; within the New Jerusalem, John tells us: "and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be no more pain: for the former things are passed away."

    The curse upon Creation that started in Genesis; that Romans promised was groaning, but would end at the Revelation (Apokalypto); when we receive our eternal resurrected bodies; has arrived with the presentation of the NHNE.
    Sorry, but not completely accurate, for Isaiah notes that the snake will continue to eat the dust - IOW the curse which is lifted for creation yet still has an impact.

    Romans 8:17 "And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation (Greek: Apokalypto) of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. "
    Yes through us creation is released from bondage and part of our role will be bringing restoration and healing to the world.

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trivalee View Post
    FALSE!

    b-1. According to Isaiah 65:20 death will still occur during the millennium.
    b-2. But after the MK is over and death and hell are judged and cast into hellfire (Rev 20:14). There will be no more death (Rev 21:4).
    Many people attempt to literally understand Isaiah 65:20 and it causes them to create all kinds of conflicted doctrines between Isaiah's depiction of the NHNE and John's Revelation depiction.

    They are both describing the future sinless, deathless, wonderful NHNE. Albeit John gives much more focused details.

    The troubling verse about a child dying at 100; is not a literal expectation; because it is an absurdity. A child cannot be 100 years old; if so; he would be an adult; a senior adult.

    Isaiah didn't intend for folks to attempt to think the absurd idea of a 100 year old child would occur.

    Isaiah was using the literary technique of 'verbal irony' which uses an absurdity to make a point.

    Similar to the literary technique of 'personification', which too never meant to be understood wooden literally.

    John in his account of the NHNE, clarifies and replaces the confusing 'no more infant of days/a child will die 100 years old', with the more simplistic and clear phrase, 'and there shall be no more death'.

    Looking at the key attributes of both passages; and realizing Isaiah was using the 100 year child as an absurdity of verbal irony being replaced with John's phrase; one can see they are both describing the 1 NHNE. (as did Peter)

    Piecing all three accounts of the NHNE togther; we find beautiful harmony and consistency of our future, eternal home.

    "the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth 2P 3:7,13 the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes. For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered Is 65:16 the former things are passed away. Rev 21:4 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away Rev 21:0-1 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people Isa 65:28 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people Rev 21:2 and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying. Isa 65:19 neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain. Rev 21:4 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old Isaiah 65:20 and there shall be no more death Rev 21:4 but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed. Isa 65:20 And there shall be no more curse. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone Rev 22:3/21:8 and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them. Isa 65:21 and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. Rev 22:2 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them. Isa 65:23 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. Rev 21:24 wherein dwelleth righteousness 2P:313 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock Isa 65:25 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him And they shall see his face Rev 2 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Rev 22:3/11 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD. Isa 65:25 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 2P3:14 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 22:17


    One future perfect NHNE wherein dwelleth righteousness.
    Don't get tripped up into trying to create 2 or 3 NHNE.....common sense can prevail; when you understand the difficult passages correctly; in light of the more clear passages.

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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louwrens Erasmus View Post
    "And he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street. And on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve [kinds of] fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev 22:1-2)
    Does this mean that we will find sick people in the New Jerusalem?

    Just asking.
    John sees the river of life (The Holy Spirit) flowing from the throne of God and of Jesus. He also sees the tree of life (eternal life) bearing fruit each month, corresponding to the Church’s growing numbers over time. He states that the tree’s leaves are “for the healing of the nations”, corresponding to how the gospel of Jesus Christ brings healing to mankind.
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    Re: Revelation 22 verse 1 and 2 -How is it interpreted?

    Ezekiel also mentions this

    Ezekiel 47:12
    Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing."

    This agrees with my view also. The water from the sanctuary is the living water the Holy Spirit which brings us life and spiritual food as Jesus also states below

    John 7:37-39
    37 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38 Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.”[c] 39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.

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