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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    I’ll say it

    He wanted to chicken out
    He was horrified at the thought of becoming sin
    He was terrified of being separated from God

    He was asking for plan b the gen though he knew there wasn’t one and he was willing to go to the cross despite his terror
    Courageous of you, but knowing the Lord, knowing Him to be God in the Flesh, I don't think so.

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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    Courageous of you, but knowing the Lord, knowing Him to be God in the Flesh, I don't think so.

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    Knowing the Lord, knowing Him to be God in the Flesh, this exactly what I think and believe

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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

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    Knowing the Lord, knowing Him to be God in the Flesh, this exactly what I think and believe
    What you believe is what counts, I believe something else, thank the Lord we can.

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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    There's a first for everything Slug, no matter how you put it, no matter how you try to sugarcoat you words. He knew He had to die on the Cross, He knew it was the Fathers will, He would never ask to have that cup removed from Him, so « this cup » isn't about the Cross. That's how I see it.

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    Has anyone else you ever met, see it the same for the reason you just expressed? (edit to add a link to a exposition of Luke 22:42 - https://www.theologyofwork.org/the-h...ther-take-away

    Here is Exposition and Exegetical, from Biblehub - https://biblehub.com/commentaries/luke/22-42.htm

    end of edit)


    I'm not sugarcoating anything. Jesus experienced ALL the same emotions we have... fear being one too. It's because He expressed fear in the garden, I have another reason to love and believe in Him.

    He can relate to all my problems.

    The words, "not my will"... in that prayer? So, Jesus expresses that He would have it done differently, BUT knowing it would not be done any differently, He remains in submission (resigns too) too His Father by saying, ... but yours be done."


    Courage overcomes the fear, so if "I" ever fail in courage and would have remained in fear, I can call on Jesus who can provide me the courage to overcome true fear. Not many know true fear... were they are facing death. But Jesus does and can help because He's been there/done that.
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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    Courageous of you, but knowing the Lord, knowing Him to be God in the Flesh, I don't think so.

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    What does Phillippian's 2 / 7 mean to you ?

    He was in the likeness of man. He suffered in all ways like a man. He was the 2nd Adam.

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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

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    And Hematidrosis is the only thing you can come up with?
    When something is new to you it isn't necessarily wrong.

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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug1 View Post
    Has anyone else you ever met, see it the same for the reason you just expressed? I'm not sugarcoating anything. Jesus experienced ALL the same emotions we have... fear being one too. It's because He expressed fear in the garden, I have another reason to love and believe in Him.
    That !

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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RabbiKnife View Post
    I’ll say it

    He wanted to chicken out
    He was horrified at the thought of becoming sin
    He was terrified of being separated from God

    He was asking for plan b the gen though he knew there wasn’t one and he was willing to go to the cross despite his terror
    Courageous of you, but knowing the Lord, knowing Him to be God in the Flesh, I don't think so.

    Aristarkos
    How so?

    My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.

    not as I will......

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    Re: Mental Prayer vs Spoken Prayer

    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    Exactly and why did He not give in to these temptations? Because He was not a child of Adam. Because He was God in the flesh.

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    Obviously. All God, all man.

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