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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hewillcome2040 View Post
    The attach on Jericho is correlated to the Feast of Trumpets.
    How do you figure? They blew trumpets before every battle. Is every battle therefore related to the feast of trumpets?
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    That’s how I calculated his math was wrong the first time.

    Also, there is a miscalculation in the Gregorian calendar between -1 BC and + 1 AD that wasn’t counted in his calculation. But I re-calculated it his way and he was still off by about 100 years.
    Yup some muddled thinking, for sure.
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Yup some muddled thinking, for sure.
    Well he blamed it all on Maimonides....I guess Jesus used the Gregorian calendar after all.

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    71 posts in 24 hours. Impressive. What do you do for a living? Besides math.
    This Space For Rent

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hewillcome2040 View Post
    I just want to mention, that if I'm not replying to some of you then it may mean I missed your post or I don't get involved in contentiousness. I also, don't want to digress to deeply or divert.

    With that. Here are the Jubilee years of the 120:

    Jubilee 120 1991 AD
    Jubilee 119 1942 AD
    Jubilee 118 1893 AD
    Jubilee 117 1844 AD
    Jubilee 116 1795 AD
    Jubilee 115 1746 AD
    Jubilee 114 1697 AD
    Jubilee 113 1648 AD
    Jubilee 112 1599 AD
    Jubilee 111 1550 AD
    Jubilee 110 1501 AD
    Jubilee 109 1452 AD
    Jubilee 108 1403 AD
    Jubilee 107 1354 AD
    Jubilee 106 1305 AD
    Jubilee 105 1256 AD
    Jubilee 104 1207 AD
    Jubilee 103 1158 AD
    Jubilee 102 1109 AD
    Jubilee 101 1060 AD
    Jubilee 100 1011 AD
    Jubilee 99 962 AD
    Jubilee 98 913 AD
    Jubilee 97 864 AD
    Jubilee 96 815 AD
    Jubilee 95 766 AD
    Jubilee 94 717 AD
    Jubilee 93 668 AD
    Jubilee 92 619 AD
    Jubilee 91 570 AD
    Jubilee 90 521 AD
    Jubilee 89 472 AD
    Jubilee 88 423 AD
    Jubilee 87 374 AD
    Jubilee 86 325 AD
    Jubilee 85 276 AD
    Jubilee 84 227 AD
    Jubilee 83 178 AD
    Jubilee 82 129 AD
    Jubilee 81 80 AD
    Jubilee 80 31 AD
    Jubilee 79 19 BC
    Jubilee 78 68 BC
    Jubilee 77 117 BC
    Jubilee 76 166 BC
    Jubilee 75 215 BC
    Jubilee 74 264 BC
    Jubilee 73 313 BC
    Jubilee 72 362 BC
    Jubilee 71 411 BC
    Jubilee 70 460 BC
    Jubilee 69 509 BC
    Jubilee 68 558 BC
    Jubilee 67 607 BC
    Jubilee 66 656 BC
    Jubilee 65 705 BC
    Jubilee 64 754 BC
    Jubilee 63 803 BC
    Jubilee 62 852 BC
    Jubilee 61 901 BC
    Jubilee 60 950 BC
    Jubilee 59 999 BC
    Jubilee 58 1048 BC
    Jubilee 57 1097 BC
    Jubilee 56 1146 BC
    Jubilee 55 1195 BC
    Jubilee 54 1244 BC
    Jubilee 53 1293 BC
    Jubilee 52 1342 BC
    Jubilee 51 1391 BC
    Jubilee 50 1440 BC
    Jubilee 49 1489 BC
    Jubilee 48 1538 BC
    Jubilee 47 1587 BC
    Jubilee 46 1636 BC
    Jubilee 45 1685 BC
    Jubilee 44 1734 BC
    Jubilee 43 1783 BC
    Jubilee 42 1832 BC
    Jubilee 41 1881 BC
    Jubilee 40 1930 BC
    Jubilee 39 1979 BC
    Jubilee 38 2028 BC
    Jubilee 37 2077 BC
    Jubilee 36 2126 BC
    Jubilee 35 2175 BC
    Jubilee 34 2224 BC
    Jubilee 33 2273 BC
    Jubilee 32 2322 BC
    Jubilee 31 2371 BC
    Jubilee 30 2420 BC
    Jubilee 29 2469 BC
    Jubilee 28 2518 BC
    Jubilee 27 2567 BC
    Jubilee 26 2616 BC
    Jubilee 25 2665 BC
    Jubilee 24 2714 BC
    Jubilee 23 2763 BC
    Jubilee 22 2812 BC
    Jubilee 21 2861 BC
    Jubilee 20 2910 BC
    Jubilee 19 2959 BC
    Jubilee 18 3008 BC
    Jubilee 17 3057 BC
    Jubilee 16 3106 BC
    Jubilee 15 3155 BC
    Jubilee 14 3204 BC
    Jubilee 13 3253 BC
    Jubilee 12 3302 BC
    Jubilee 11 3351 BC
    Jubilee 10 3400 BC
    Jubilee 9 3449 BC
    Jubilee 8 3498 BC
    Jubilee 7 3547 BC
    Jubilee 6 3596 BC
    Jubilee 5 3645 BC
    Jubilee 4 3694 BC
    Jubilee 3 3743 BC
    Jubilee 2 3792 BC
    Jubilee 1 3841 BC
    Jubilee 0 3890 BC
    Why start in 3890 BC?

    Also, was it a jubilee? If so, wouldn’t it be Jubilee 1? The first Jubilee would be......well, the first, not the zeroeth Jubilee.

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    Your list is wrong. Jubilee years are 50 years apart, not 49. You already concede this. above.
    Jubilees are 50 years but not 50 years apart. They are 49 Years apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrustGzus View Post
    Why start in 3890 BC?

    Also, was it a jubilee? If so, wouldn’t it be Jubilee 1? The first Jubilee would be......well, the first, not the zeroeth Jubilee.

    Great question. I didn't start with 3890. I actually knew that 31AD was a Jubilee year. I knew from other prophecies that in the numbering it would be the 80th. So I went backwards from there by the Jubilee cycles and knew from the Book of Jubilees that the 50th would be the time of the Exodus. My counted landed the 50th on 1440BC. I then checked for evidence that there could be evidence related to the Exodus occurring in 1440BC and found it (I posted a link in an earlier post).

    I knew that there had to be 40 Jubilees since 31 AD because other prophecies again show this. As for why I show a 0 Jubilee, it simply because the output I provide was done by programming the information to get the numbers. I didn't write all those by hand but had it outputted from my programming code.

    Another thing that was interesting, was that I learned about the Jubilee on my 50th Birthday. Ironic?

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Please list all the prophecies you used to arrive at 3890BC. And how you know 31 AD is a jubilee year. etc.

    And why you are using a calendar the Bible doesn’t even reference

    Please

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hewillcome2040 View Post
    Anyone still in disbelief?
    You have not taken into account the Lo-Ammi periods, first I'll show you how I got at 1491:

    4004 Adam created A. lives 930 y.
    3874 Seth born Adam 130 y. S. lives 912 y.
    3769 Enos born Seth 105 y. E. lives 905 y.
    3679 Cainan born Enos 90 y. C. lives 910 y.
    3609 Mahalaleel b. Cainan 70 y. M. lives 895 y.
    3544 Jared born Mahalaleel 65 y. J. lives 962 y.
    3382 Henoch born Jared 162 y. H. lives 365 y.
    3317 Methuselah b. Henoch 65 y. M. lives 969 y.
    3130 Lamech born Methuselah 187 y. L. lives 777 y.
    2948 Noah born Lamech 182 y. N. lives 950 y.
    2348 Noah 600 y. Year of the flood.

    2348 Sem born S. lives 600 y.
    2346 Arphaxad born Sem 100 y. A. lives 438 y.
    2311 Selah born Arphaxad 35 y. S. lives 433 y.
    2281 Heber born Selah 30 y. H. lives 464 y.
    2247 Peleg born Heber 34 y. P. lives 320 y.
    2217 Reu born Peleg 30 y. R. lives 239 y.
    2185 Serug born Reu 32 y. S. lives 230 y.
    2155 Nahor born Serug 30 y. N. lives 148 y.
    2126 Terah born Nahor 29 y. T. lives 205 y.
    2056 Nahor born Terah 70 y. See Gen.11:10-32
    1996 Abram born Terah 130 y.
    1921 To Canaan

    From here the 430 years of the stay in Canaan and Egypt begin:

    Israel pulled out of Egypt in 1491, arrived in Canaan in 1451. The first jubilee year is now not 50 years later, so in 1401, but 58 years later, so in 1393, because we have to take into account the 8 years of oppression by Cushan, in which Israel had a Lo-Ammi time. Where God's years stood still, the jubilee year is that much later. The world years went on. The second jubilee year does not fall in 1343, but again 18 years later, in 1325; the 18 years of Moabite domination fall outside. The third was in 1255, because here is 20 years of Canaanite domination. The fourth is 1197 (7 years Midianitic domination), the fifth 1147, the sixth 1057 (40 years, Philistine domination), the seventh 1007, then 957, 907, 857, 807, 751 (6 years Athalia) 688 (13 years open time space) 637 (1 year after Uzziah's death), 587, 537. In 496 came Nebuchadnezzar. Then Israel's independent existence ended completely. So we have 16 jubilee years from 1491 — 496 = 995 years while you have 19 in the same period, this is beside the fact the first Jubilee started in 1393 BC and not 3890 BC as you seem to assume. With this your whole theory collapses in on itself.

    Aristarkos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristarkos View Post
    You have not taken into account the Lo-Ammi periods, first I'll show you how I got at 1491:

    4004 Adam created A. lives 930 y.
    3874 Seth born Adam 130 y. S. lives 912 y.
    3769 Enos born Seth 105 y. E. lives 905 y.
    3679 Cainan born Enos 90 y. C. lives 910 y.
    3609 Mahalaleel b. Cainan 70 y. M. lives 895 y.
    3544 Jared born Mahalaleel 65 y. J. lives 962 y.
    3382 Henoch born Jared 162 y. H. lives 365 y.
    3317 Methuselah b. Henoch 65 y. M. lives 969 y.
    3130 Lamech born Methuselah 187 y. L. lives 777 y.
    2948 Noah born Lamech 182 y. N. lives 950 y.
    2348 Noah 600 y. Year of the flood.

    2348 Sem born S. lives 600 y.
    2346 Arphaxad born Sem 100 y. A. lives 438 y.
    2311 Selah born Arphaxad 35 y. S. lives 433 y.
    2281 Heber born Selah 30 y. H. lives 464 y.
    2247 Peleg born Heber 34 y. P. lives 320 y.
    2217 Reu born Peleg 30 y. R. lives 239 y.
    2185 Serug born Reu 32 y. S. lives 230 y.
    2155 Nahor born Serug 30 y. N. lives 148 y.
    2126 Terah born Nahor 29 y. T. lives 205 y.
    2056 Nahor born Terah 70 y. See Gen.11:10-32
    1996 Abram born Terah 130 y.
    1921 To Canaan

    From here the 430 years of the stay in Canaan and Egypt begin:

    Israel pulled out of Egypt in 1491, arrived in Canaan in 1451. The first jubilee year is now not 50 years later, so in 1401, but 58 years later, so in 1393, because we have to take into account the 8 years of oppression by Cushan, in which Israel had a Lo-Ammi time. Where God's years stood still, the jubilee year is that much later. The world years went on. The second jubilee year does not fall in 1343, but again 18 years later, in 1325; the 18 years of Moabite domination fall outside. The third was in 1255, because here is 20 years of Canaanite domination. The fourth is 1197 (7 years Midianitic domination), the fifth 1147, the sixth 1057 (40 years, Philistine domination), the seventh 1007, then 957, 907, 857, 807, 751 (6 years Athalia) 688 (13 years open time space) 637 (1 year after Uzziah's death), 587, 537. In 496 came Nebuchadnezzar. Then Israel's independent existence ended completely. So we have 16 jubilee years from 1491 — 496 = 995 years while you have 19 in the same period, this is beside the fact the first Jubilee started in 1393 BC and not 3890 BC as you seem to assume. With this your whole theory collapses in on itself.

    Aristarkos
    Can you show me the verse that shows that Adam was created in 4004BC? ;-) I know there is none. So, my answer is why I'm not using those dates is because I need a place to start. The Book of Jubilees will give you better understanding of where the timelines are. Hope that helps you.

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hewillcome2040 View Post
    Can you show me the verse that shows that Adam was created in 4004BC? ;-) I know there is none. So, my answer is why I'm not using those dates is because I need a place to start. The Book of Jubilees will give you better understanding of where the timelines are. Hope that helps you.
    No, because I only deal with inspired Scripture and the numbers of Scripture are just as inspired. You however can believe whatever you desire.

    Aristarkos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hewillcome2040 View Post
    Jubilees are 50 years but not 50 years apart. They are 49 Years apart.
    Just to help you with showing this:
    Year
    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
    7 this year is a Sabbath year
    8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 is a Sabbath year
    21 Sabbath
    28 Sabbath
    35 Sabbath
    42 Sabbath
    49 Sabbath
    50 Jubilee Year and Year 1 of a new Sabbath cycle
    51 is year 2
    52 is 3
    53 is 4
    54 is 5
    55 is 6
    56 is year 7 and a Sabbath year. It is the first in the new cycle.
    57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63 is a Sabbath Year. It is the second Sabbath in the cycle of Jubilee
    70 Sabbath (3rd)
    77 Sabbath (4th)
    84 Sabbath (5th)
    91 Sabbath (6th)
    98 Sabbath (7th)
    99 Jubilee which is 49 years after the previous Jubilee or 50 years from the last Sabbath of the previous cycle. It is also the 1st year of a new cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    50 Jubilee Year and Year 1 of a new Sabbath cycle
    I'm pretty sure this is wrong. The jubilee year requires that the lands lie fallow and are not planted on. The following year one can plant again, and that's the first year of the new cycle.
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    Just to help you with showing this:
    Year
    1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,
    7 this year is a Sabbath year
    8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 is a Sabbath year
    21 Sabbath
    28 Sabbath
    35 Sabbath
    42 Sabbath
    49 Sabbath
    50 Jubilee Year and Year 1 of a new Sabbath cycle
    51 is year 2
    52 is 3
    53 is 4
    54 is 5
    55 is 6
    56 is year 7 and a Sabbath year. It is the first in the new cycle.
    57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63 is a Sabbath Year. It is the second Sabbath in the cycle of Jubilee
    70 Sabbath (3rd)
    77 Sabbath (4th)
    84 Sabbath (5th)
    91 Sabbath (6th)
    98 Sabbath (7th)
    99 Jubilee which is 49 years after the previous Jubilee or 50 years from the last Sabbath of the previous cycle. It is also the 1st year of a new cycle.
    Yes, I posted that earlier in the thread but I appreciate your pointing that out again. It seems that it may be needed to say several times before many here are going to understand.

    So for all those that still don't understand what myself and ForHisGlory posted, the Jubilee is 50 years but the cycle to count between them in 49 years.

    This is because (IMPORTANT) - The 50th year is ALSO the FIRST year in the next cycle your counting.

    1 2....49,50 Then start counting 2,3...50 then start counting 2, 3...50 Because the 50th year already includes the first year of the next cycle?

    God is showing that the Jubilee would extend to a point where there be no cycle after. Meaning a longing for THE JUBILEE.

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    Re: Genesis 6:3 - Jubilees

    Quote Originally Posted by Hewillcome2040 View Post
    This is because (IMPORTANT) - The 50th year is ALSO the FIRST year in the next cycle your counting.
    How do you conclude this?
    "For a small moment have I forsaken you, and with great mercy will I gather you.With a little wrath did I hide My countenance for a moment from you, and with everlasting kindness will I have compassion on you," said your Redeemer, the Lord."..."For the mountains shall depart and the hills totter, but My kindness shall not depart from you, neither shall the covenant of My peace totter," says the Lord, Who has compassion on you.

    Isaiah 54

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