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    Television is worst habit a Christian can participate in.

    TV-watching destroys us physically, mentally, and spiritually.

    Motion-picture also fulfills the prophecy of the end times "image of the beast" from the book of Revelation which leads the world astray. (This will be discussed in part 4)

    Modern Christianity has become lukewarm due to compromising with sinful and foolish TV-shows.

    PART 3 TELEVISION DESTROYS US 'SPIRITUALLY'

    Compromise of faith


    Television shows cause us to compromise the faith. As we grow older, it is normal to believe we are “mature” and can watch higher rated films. The truth is the opposite, as we grow more mature, God’s standard he expects from us increases correspondingly. It is common sense that we should be holding ourselves to a higher standard with greater age and maturity, rather than lowering our standards. This is the opposite of the modern day television “ratings” however, where the most debauched shows are rated “M” for “mature audiences.” This is a subtle challenge to our pride, implying immaturity or weakness if you do not wish to watch this category. Ever since youth, people will brag about which violent movie or horror show they were bold enough to watch. Instead, it is important to realize our inner spirit is sensitive. We should be trying to protect our spirit just as if it were a child....
    Matthew 18:2-4, And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, "Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven."
    We gradually pick up on the terrible social and family attitudes by being exposed to it so much. Becoming desensitized to filth like the frog that is slowly heated in the water, the frog gradually desensitizes to the heat and does not even feel the need to jump out of the pan when the boiling point is reached. One does not want to cut off a show that they have already invested many episodes in, once it begins to show terrible values and perversion.

    Early Safeguard: “The Hays Code”


    Early on the danger of the television was obvious. It showed amazing success when used in propaganda by both allied and axis powers during the second world war. It was generally believed that a guard of some sort would be necessary, a restraint on television, to prevent the nation from losing its moral foundation. The idea was, since television had been proven to have such a powerful ability to conform the mind in wartime propaganda, the same effects would work powerfully to corrupt the values of the general population.
    The “Hays code” was established as this guard. It banned sex related talk, successful revenge in the plot, crime succeeding, or dirty language. The was encoded as law in the United States until 1967, and all filmmakers were required to conform to it when designing films.
    What we can take away from this, is that a “normal” show today would have been considered pornographic when television was first invented. Perhaps the Hays code may have been extreme, but what we can learn from it is that our standards have been slipping to an unreal amount. We have lost the concern the original pioneers of television had for the possibility of mass shifting of cultural values by this mode of entertainment. It is obvious how television empowers lust. In addition, many young women are pressured to conform to a unrealistic body image and are shown as objects of lust. Men also gain unrealistic sexualized expectations for what a woman should have to look like to be considered beautiful.

    Conformed to whose image?


    The problem with television goes beyond simply the “bad” or “perverted” shows and scenes. Even without counting those, there is an overall “worldliness” pervasive throughout tv programming. This is most clear in regards to family values. Father’s are consistently portrayed to be passive and stupid, not at all interested in decision making, and leaving the wife to take the leadership role in the house. Children are always shown as having no respect to elders. Teenagers are always shown to be rebellious, as if it is a ‘given’ that they have to rebel… When we soak ourselves in the viewing of these attitudes, behaviours, and mindsets day in a day out for years and years, we find that we have as Christians, become unquestionable conformed to the image of the world, and do not see Christ reflected through us.
    Matthew 5:29-30, “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.”

    We can think of our television as an “eye” in the sense that it is the gateway of light and of our vision. “Light” has the power to transform what it contacts. Think of a laser etching stonework. Spiritually we are transformed into what we behold….
    2 Corinthians 3:18, “But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”

    We can be transformed into God’s image by beholding the Word and through worship. On the other hand, we are conformed to the world’s image by beholding the worldly attitudes, mindsets, and behaviours which are displayed on television. It is a battle of the Word vs. the World for whose image we will become. We cannot keep sitting on the fence of compromise, trying to serve both Christ and ‘self’ simultaneously. A sacrifice must be made.
    As a youngster I used to love the sport of bowling…. My bowling coach used to always say one thing: “keep your eye on the middle arrow.” By keeping one’s gaze on the middle arrow of the bowling lane, it would subconsciously affect the way a person releases the ball, so that it was more likely to land on top of that arrow and hit the middle section of bowling pins. The idea being that what we behold becomes our destination and aim. When training a new driver, they are taught not to keep looking off the side of the road in fear or at the lines at the edge…. rather, they are instructed to “keep your gaze where you intend to drive toward.” What we look at and what we behold becomes our destination. Spending so much time with our gaze toward the television will cause us to descend to its moral and spiritual level, and our behaviour will begin to conform to it. It will become our destination.
    This principle has been at the core of many powerful ministers of God.
    Smith Wigglesworth, who operated in a powerful healing anointing long before divine healing became a mainstream belief, said "If I read the newspaper I come out dirtier than I went in. If I read my Bible, I come out cleaner than I went in, and I like being clean!"
    Recently I was reading a book called “Rees Howells: Intercessor” about a powerful man of God in the early half of the 20th century. It mentions his lack of participation in worldly amusements:
    “Even the normal pleasures of the world had no attraction for him. He would walk miles to hear someone preach and bring him “under the influence of God,” but he “wouldn’t cross the road to hear a concert.” Only once did he even attend a football match. As the crowd were “shouting and bawling” around him, he felt it was not the place for him, and vowed that, when he got his feet out of it, he would never go to such a place again. He never did.”

    These people understood that to operate in the power of God, it is necessary to take care in the type of amusement that is allowed in one’s life. What we spend time looking at, we become conformed to in our nature.
    Romans 12:2, “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”

    Ephesians 5:11-12 “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.”

    1 John 2:15-16, “Do not love the world nor the things in the world If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world.”

    Christian television??


    Some will say that television can be “either a force for great good or for great evil.” I beg to disagree. It is a stretch to find even minor good from this technology. There is potential for mass evil however. It is proposed that Christian TV channels can be a great source of evangelism and preaching. This is dubious. Most people I have talked to, are turned off from TV evangelists and get a worse view of our faith. TV-evangelists claim to had led millions to Christ. It is equally true, however, that they have turned off millions. These people tend to preach a rose-colored-glasses get-rich-quick gospel of “how to get blessed” “God’s principles to help you become wealthy” “God is going to come through for you.” They rarely preach uncomfortable messages on repentance from sin and from what is displeasing to God. It is a human-centric soothsaying for itching ears, not the real God-centered anointed preaching that feeds a person’s spirit.
    Christian TV channels tend to worship the nation of Israel and the Jews. An unreal amount of programming time is spent on this. It is almost as if these channels are catered to the religion of Judaism. Christian TV preachers also always give a blank cheque of unquestioning support to the Republican Party, mainly because of their mutual political views regarding abortion and homosexual marriage. They fail to hold the republican’s feet to the fire however, or to preach against the greed, elitism, lack of concern for the poor and general stubborn mindset, the sins at the core of that party and its members. The republicans will never change if they know they will always get a blank cheque of support from Christians no matter what….
    The TV host always agrees with guest on Christian channels. You will never see a disagreement or dispute on these channels. They preplan everything where the host and guest take turns praising each other and exchanging positive compliments. It is painful to try to watch this for more than a few minutes…. Watching a secular interview is always more satisfying, where the host will actually challenge the guest with some hard or critical questions, questions of substance. Overall, watching Christian television is no better than secular programming, it is best to unsubscribe from cable altogether. Just like (1 Samual 15) Saul tried to spare king Agag and his favorites of the spoils of war, we all have a few favorite channels we would like to spare. In the end, it is better to get rid of the wasteful expense of cable entirely rather than let a few favorite channels hold you back.
    Meditation


    In times of old when night fell and man was no longer able to perform work in the darkness, there was a certain amount of leisure time even in the most hardworking societies. The time of peace in the evening could be spent daydreaming, meditating, thinking, and wondering about the true questions in the universe. There is a certain beauty in “doing nothing” because we are actually doing something when spending time apart from the stress and distraction of our world.
    In place of this, with our modern invention of artificial lighting, we always feel pressured to do something. We work late into the night, and then entertain ourselves with the television. In place of communion with our own thought, with God’s thoughts, and conversation with others around us, we have replaced these by our colorful and flashy box of entertainment. There is always a movie to watch, especially with streaming services now. We always have something good we want to see at the click of a button. This has removed the time for one’s thoughts with one’s own self. We don’t step out of our trap in the cycle of life long enough to wonder why we do the things we do, why we spend time on the activities we do. We are like the biblical Martha who was so focused on all the things we have to distract us, she did not see the importance of stepping away and spending time with the One of true value.

    PART 3 OF SERIES "THROW AWAY YOUR TV" REPOSTED FROM MY WEBSITE
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    Re: Image of the Beast: Throw Away Your TV

    Quote Originally Posted by studentoftruth111 View Post
    Television is worst habit a Christian can participate in.

    TV-watching destroys us physically, mentally, and spiritually.

    Motion-picture also fulfills the prophecy of the end times "image of the beast" from the book of Revelation which leads the world astray. (This will be discussed in part 4)

    Modern Christianity has become lukewarm due to compromising with sinful and foolish TV-shows.



    Part 1: Television Destroys us Physically
    Part 2: Television Destroys us Mentally
    Part 3: Television Destroys us Spiritually
    Part 4: Image of the Beast: Motion Picture
    Part 5: What I Saw I Cannot Unsee: the spirit of abomination
    Hi, and welcome to the Forum. I hope it profits you much.

    It is everyone's right to publish their opinions, but the idea and name of this Forum is "Let's Talk Bible". So why not just publish say, three scriptures, within their contexts, that condemn TV.

    The prevailing world philosophy is called "Gnosticism". Gnosticism maintains that man is essentially good, but that his environment makes him sin. The solution to this is the "Knowledgeable Ones" (hence "Gnosis" from the Greek) making restrictions on man. This can be banning alcohol, banning weapons right through to getting women to wear the Burqa because women uncovered cause good men to lust. The Bible, on the other hand, maintains that men are intrinsically evil, that the environment is good, or at least inanimate, and that men need a change of nature.

    So, the question is; should we ban TV because it makes good men bad, or do bad men watch TV? If so, on what basis. And then, seeing that in 2010 there were 5.4 million car crashes which inflicted over 30,000 deaths (not counting injuries) in the USA alone, what shall be done about cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walls View Post
    Hi, and welcome to the Forum. I hope it profits you much.

    So, the question is; should we ban TV because it makes good men bad, or do bad men watch TV? If so, on what basis. And then, seeing that in 2010 there were 5.4 million car crashes which inflicted over 30,000 deaths (not counting injuries) in the USA alone, what shall be done about cars?
    It is not about 'banning' TV. That would be relying on the government to make choices for us like a nanny state. Rather, it is up to everyone's personal conviction to decide what to do. Nonetheless, I have provided scriptural and rational arguments for why it is better to live without TV rather than with. My friend, I will have to disagree with you about the environment being good and us simply being 'evil.' According to scripture, we are of God and the environment is full of evil. 1 John 5:19, "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness."

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    Re: Image of the Beast: Throw Away Your TV

    Quote Originally Posted by studentoftruth111 View Post
    Television is worst habit a Christian can participate in.

    TV-watching destroys us physically, mentally, and spiritually.

    Motion-picture also fulfills the prophecy of the end times "image of the beast" from the book of Revelation which leads the world astray. (This will be discussed in part 4)

    Modern Christianity has become lukewarm due to compromising with sinful and foolish TV-shows.



    Part 1: Television Destroys us Physically
    Part 2: Television Destroys us Mentally
    Part 3: Television Destroys us Spiritually
    Part 4: Image of the Beast: Motion Picture
    Part 5: What I Saw I Cannot Unsee: the spirit of abomination
    maybe, the idiot box is what it is, but media is the tool tv or not. in Europe back in the day the catholic church had the ear and trust of the peasantry "public" kings had to deal with that all the time hence deal with church propaganda that had serious consequences. once things began to change printing presses and the like. propaganda was falling into the public's hands now corporate conglomerates. word of mouth in the days of the prophets in the days of Jesus and today is for the truth. media or manipulated information in a agenda's interest, and the like is for propaganda.

    as long as you don't trust a thing they say about, you're ok, they can report an event but don't trust in what light they show it.

    its simple you have to live in the world but the world doesn't have to live in you. let the Kingdom of God live in you.




    also if my memory serves, the Lord states somewhere in prophecy that the whole world will see His coming, so everyone with a tv and or a cell phone or whatever will be in common use, will see.
    Let there be Light

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    Re: Image of the Beast: Throw Away Your TV

    Quote Originally Posted by studentoftruth111 View Post
    Television is worst habit a Christian can participate in.

    TV-watching destroys us physically, mentally, and spiritually.

    Motion-picture also fulfills the prophecy of the end times "image of the beast" from the book of Revelation which leads the world astray. (This will be discussed in part 4)

    Modern Christianity has become lukewarm due to compromising with sinful and foolish TV-shows.


    Part 1: Television Destroys us Physically
    Part 2: Television Destroys us Mentally
    Part 3: Television Destroys us Spiritually
    Part 4: Image of the Beast: Motion Picture
    Part 5: What I Saw I Cannot Unsee: the spirit of abomination
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    *** MOD NOTE ***

    As was mentioned by someone already studentoftruth111; it is by far, preferable to have a discussion with an actual person rather than a web site. Please present your argument here rather than sending us off to your site to read your position. Promoting your own site to generate traffic is not looked favorably here since we are not an advertising board.
    OK, I will keep those rules in mind. Is it possible to delete this thread then for now and I will make separate threads later about the aspects of TV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by studentoftruth111 View Post
    It is not about 'banning' TV. That would be relying on the government to make choices for us like a nanny state. Rather, it is up to everyone's personal conviction to decide what to do. Nonetheless, I have provided scriptural and rational arguments for why it is better to live without TV rather than with. My friend, I will have to disagree with you about the environment being good and us simply being 'evil.' According to scripture, we are of God and the environment is full of evil. 1 John 5:19, "And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness."
    Thanks for your prompt reply. We all have a view of the matter, and I will leave you with yours. But you have advanced a scripture to show Christians good and the rest of the world evil. This, I will answer:
    1. In Genesis 2:7 and 1st Thessalonians 5:23 we see that man is made of three parts, body, soul and spirit. At rebirth, ONLY the spirit of man is born OF God (Jn.3:6).
    2. The body "in which no good thing lives", and which is a "vile" body, is the mortal enemy of the spirit of man (Rom.7:18; Phil.3:21; Gal.5:17). The flesh of OF Adam is destined for the grave. There can be no talk of it not being evil through and through, as Romans Chapter 7 establishes.
    3. And the soul, after a lifetime of pandering to the flesh, is required by the Lord to "die". Matthew 16:24-26 interchanges the "soul-life" (psuché - Gk.) in verse 25 and "soul" in verse 26.

    24 "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
    25 For whosoever will save his (soul)-life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his (soul)-life for my sake shall find it.
    26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"

    So your proffered verse in 1st John 5:19 addresses ONLY the spirit of man. There can be no talk of the soul of man being intrinsically good. Genesis 6:5 shows its true nature. "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

    In the second half of 1st John 5:19, a short examination of the words will clear up any misunderstanding.

    The Greek word for "world" is "kosmos". Strong and Vine tells us that "kosmos" can mean the earth and even the creation. But its base meaning is "the adornment" or "the orderly arrangement of things". So, in Romans 4:13 the seed of Abraham are going to inherit the world, and the Chiefest Seed - our Lord Jesus, is not only Heir but Maker of the world. And, "God so loved the world (kosmos), that he gave his only begotten Son, ... ." (John 3:16). BUT ... we are admonished in 1st John 2:15; "Love not the world (kosmos), neither the things that are in the world (kosmos). If any man love the world (kosmos), the love of the Father is not in him." Added to this, our Lord Jesus said to Pilate in John 18:36, "... My kingdom is not of this world (kosmos): if my kingdom were of this world (kosmos), then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." How shall we reconcile these inspired statements?

    The answer is that the word "world", if taken at its base meaning, which is "the orderly arrangement of things", shows that the present earth is subject to "an arrangement of things" that is wicked. The "arrangement" of things presently is corrupt government by corrupt men, who love money and fame and abhor righteousness. Who make war and promote sexual deviancy and conspire to thwart God at every turn. THIS ... is the "arrangement" of things. It is not the soil, or the meat we eat, or guns, or cars, or whiskey, or, in our case, TV, that are inherently evil. It is the men who use and ABUSE them for their perverse plans who are evil. But so do the drug companies seek to undermine people and promote sales of more drugs. Shall we ban aspirin? Car makers rejoice when cars are stolen so that they can sell more. Shall we ban cars? The Lord PROMOTES weapons for their intended purpose (Rom.13:4). Shall we ban them because evil men abuse them? Shall we ban marriage because there is a 50% divorce rate, and ban pets because a certain percentage of people treat their pets miserably?

    I worked and lived in a Middle Eastern country for six years. Their Islamic religion is very Gnostic. Alcohol and women's exposed flesh are top of the list of banned things. But what do you find? Less alcoholism? Less lust among the men? By no means. The drunkenness and fornication is not a matter of a woman in a bathing costume with a glass of champagne. It is the MEN who are totally given over to sensual things.

    There is a reference to this in scripture. In 1 Timothy 4:1-5 it reads;

    1 "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of demons;
    2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
    3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
    5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."


    Any attempt to restrict "any creation" of God can be called a "doctrine of demons". Radio waves, antenna and cathode ray tubes are not evil. These belong to God's CREATION. But evil men use and abuse them. It is toward them that we should point.

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    I guess so.

    Watching the Dodgers capitulate to the Red Sox resulted in some mental anguish for me.

    But Charles Stanley was pretty uplifting last week....

    As far as prophecy and "image of the beast" is concerned, that is pure speculation and not a very good speculation IMO.
    Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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    "Blow up your TV throw away your paper
    Go to the country, build you a home
    Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
    Try an find Jesus on your own"

    John Prine - Spanish Pipedream

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    Re: Image of the Beast: Throw Away Your TV

    Quote Originally Posted by hawkman View Post
    "Blow up your TV throw away your paper
    Go to the country, build you a home
    Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
    Try an find Jesus on your own"

    John Prine - Spanish Pipedream
    It's amazing how inanimate objects can be "bad." TV's don't sin. Guns don't sin. Cars don't sin. Knives don't sin. Forks don't sin. Trees don't sin. Shoes don't sin. Socks don't sin. Bacon doesn't sin.

    People sin.
    Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walls View Post
    Thanks for your prompt reply. We all have a view of the matter, and I will leave you with yours. But you have advanced a scripture to show Christians good and the rest of the world evil. This, I will answer:
    1. In Genesis 2:7 and 1st Thessalonians 5:23 we see that man is made of three parts, body, soul and spirit. At rebirth, ONLY the spirit of man is born OF God (Jn.3:6).
    2. The body "in which no good thing lives", and which is a "vile" body, is the mortal enemy of the spirit of man (Rom.7:18; Phil.3:21; Gal.5:17). The flesh of OF Adam is destined for the grave. There can be no talk of it not being evil through and through, as Romans Chapter 7 establishes.
    3. And the soul, after a lifetime of pandering to the flesh, is required by the Lord to "die". Matthew 16:24-26 interchanges the "soul-life" (psuché - Gk.) in verse 25 and "soul" in verse 26.

    24 "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
    25 For whosoever will save his (soul)-life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his (soul)-life for my sake shall find it.
    26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"

    So your proffered verse in 1st John 5:19 addresses ONLY the spirit of man. There can be no talk of the soul of man being intrinsically good. Genesis 6:5 shows its true nature. "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

    In the second half of 1st John 5:19, a short examination of the words will clear up any misunderstanding.

    The Greek word for "world" is "kosmos". Strong and Vine tells us that "kosmos" can mean the earth and even the creation. But its base meaning is "the adornment" or "the orderly arrangement of things". So, in Romans 4:13 the seed of Abraham are going to inherit the world, and the Chiefest Seed - our Lord Jesus, is not only Heir but Maker of the world. And, "God so loved the world (kosmos), that he gave his only begotten Son, ... ." (John 3:16). BUT ... we are admonished in 1st John 2:15; "Love not the world (kosmos), neither the things that are in the world (kosmos). If any man love the world (kosmos), the love of the Father is not in him." Added to this, our Lord Jesus said to Pilate in John 18:36, "... My kingdom is not of this world (kosmos): if my kingdom were of this world (kosmos), then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." How shall we reconcile these inspired statements?

    The answer is that the word "world", if taken at its base meaning, which is "the orderly arrangement of things", shows that the present earth is subject to "an arrangement of things" that is wicked. The "arrangement" of things presently is corrupt government by corrupt men, who love money and fame and abhor righteousness. Who make war and promote sexual deviancy and conspire to thwart God at every turn. THIS ... is the "arrangement" of things. It is not the soil, or the meat we eat, or guns, or cars, or whiskey, or, in our case, TV, that are inherently evil. It is the men who use and ABUSE them for their perverse plans who are evil. But so do the drug companies seek to undermine people and promote sales of more drugs. Shall we ban aspirin? Car makers rejoice when cars are stolen so that they can sell more. Shall we ban cars? The Lord PROMOTES weapons for their intended purpose (Rom.13:4). Shall we ban them because evil men abuse them? Shall we ban marriage because there is a 50% divorce rate, and ban pets because a certain percentage of people treat their pets miserably?

    I worked and lived in a Middle Eastern country for six years. Their Islamic religion is very Gnostic. Alcohol and women's exposed flesh are top of the list of banned things. But what do you find? Less alcoholism? Less lust among the men? By no means. The drunkenness and fornication is not a matter of a woman in a bathing costume with a glass of champagne. It is the MEN who are totally given over to sensual things.

    There is a reference to this in scripture. In 1 Timothy 4:1-5 it reads;

    1 "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of demons;
    2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
    3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
    5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer."


    Any attempt to restrict "any creation" of God can be called a "doctrine of demons". Radio waves, antenna and cathode ray tubes are not evil. These belong to God's CREATION. But evil men use and abuse them. It is toward them that we should point.
    So are you saying and I know I have only picked out a small section.
    That it's ok for young or old girls to parade there bodies in front of any man with the intention to catch his eye to build her power her vanity and think that's right.
    And as a man I should be in control and turn away.
    A girl in this world who does such a thing is playing with fire.

    Thankfully I am able to control my eyes and mind but the rest of the world may not be able to do this.

    In a perfect world I would agree with you that it's man's lust that causes the end result, but if the girls were to behave and act in a Christian way there is a good chance she would not come to any harm.

    By acting and behaving as Christ wishes us too we should not be apart of this world.

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    Re: Image of the Beast: Throw Away Your TV

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin633 View Post
    So are you saying and I know I have only picked out a small section.
    That it's ok for young or old girls to parade there bodies in front of any man with the intention to catch his eye to build her power her vanity and think that's right.
    And as a man I should be in control and turn away.
    A girl in this world who does such a thing is playing with fire.

    Thankfully I am able to control my eyes and mind but the rest of the world may not be able to do this.

    In a perfect world I would agree with you that it's man's lust that causes the end result, but if the girls were to behave and act in a Christian way there is a good chance she would not come to any harm.

    By acting and behaving as Christ wishes us too we should not be apart of this world.
    Right. Choose to behave as a Christian, that you have control of - and leave what you can't control to God.
    Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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    Re: Image of the Beast: Throw Away Your TV

    Quote Originally Posted by studentoftruth111 View Post
    Television is worst habit a Christian can participate in.

    TV-watching destroys us physically, mentally, and spiritually.

    Motion-picture also fulfills the prophecy of the end times "image of the beast" from the book of Revelation which leads the world astray. (This will be discussed in part 4)

    Modern Christianity has become lukewarm due to compromising with sinful and foolish TV-shows.


    Part 1: Television Destroys us Physically
    Part 2: Television Destroys us Mentally
    Part 3: Television Destroys us Spiritually
    Part 4: Image of the Beast: Motion Picture
    Part 5: What I Saw I Cannot Unsee: the spirit of abomination
    I say this not with sarcasm or being snarky as some are prone to do.

    But what about the computer? Did you type this on a computer?

    The computer is infinitely more dangerous in terms of images and filth than the television is. And children and young people have access to those things in their homes with little parental supervision.


    I guess my question is why target the TV and not the computer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayne View Post
    I say this not with sarcasm or being snarky as some are prone to do.

    But what about the computer? Did you type this on a computer?

    The computer is infinitely more dangerous in terms of images and filth than the television is. And children and young people have access to those things in their homes with little parental supervision.


    I guess my question is why target the TV and not the computer.
    I agree it is all good but also bad,
    It's what you watch and what you want to see.
    So many think it's fine to watch horror film, they like to be scared.
    In times of old the church saw the invention of tv as satanic.
    But it's mellowed it's opinion because man will not be told what they can and can't watch as well as bending to marry same sex couples.
    The true word of God has been so watered down, we don't seem to want to offend anyone anymore. The worse thing we can say to another is that they have sinned before God, all hell breaks lose.
    All entertainment is or should I say entertainment is good for those who choose to watch informative programs even if nowadays we don't know truth from fiction.
    Turn it all off and see how the mind changes, deny yourself to find out if it's true

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    Re: Image of the Beast: Throw Away Your TV

    Quote Originally Posted by studentoftruth111 View Post
    Television is worst habit a Christian can participate in.

    TV-watching destroys us physically, mentally, and spiritually.

    Motion-picture also fulfills the prophecy of the end times "image of the beast" from the book of Revelation which leads the world astray. (This will be discussed in part 4)

    Modern Christianity has become lukewarm due to compromising with sinful and foolish TV-shows.


    Part 1: Television Destroys us Physically
    Part 2: Television Destroys us Mentally
    Part 3: Television Destroys us Spiritually
    Part 4: Image of the Beast: Motion Picture
    Part 5: What I Saw I Cannot Unsee: the spirit of abomination
    Computer internet use is worst habit a Christian can participate in.

    Using a computer on the internet destroys us physically, mentally, and spiritually.

    Internet use also fulfills the prophecy of the end times "image of the beast" from the book of Revelation which leads the world astray. (This will be discussed in part 4)

    Modern Christianity has become lukewarm due to compromising with sinful and foolish internet use.
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