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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    How was I derogatory toward God? It was toward you and your comment that was totally unscriptural.
    You said ForHisGlory is Foot in Gob. That is derogatory towards God, claiming His glory is nothing but that.
    Nothing I stated was unscriptural.

    You now say what I posted does not tie into the 3 Feasts. Your error here is that those Feasts do not happen at the same year, or maybe not even in sequence.
    What you posted still doesn't tie into the 3 Feasts. I can accept that they won't be fulfilled in the same year, but the timing of 1290 and 1335 means you have 45 days between them. So your tying of one thing to another is incorrect.
    Hanukkah is NOT one of the 3 Feasts.

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post

    What you posted still doesn't tie into the 3 Feasts. I can accept that they won't be fulfilled in the same year, but the timing of 1290 and 1335 means you have 45 days between them. So your tying of one thing to another is incorrect.
    Hanukkah is NOT one of the 3 Feasts.
    The timing is from the 1260 days; when Jesus will Return. There is exactly 75 days from the Day of Atonement until the Feast of Hanukkah - the 1335 day period from the Return to the rededication of the Temple. Please stop your attempts to discredit me.

    Hanukkah is an additional Feast, celebrated since 164 BC on the 25 day of Kislev, 1 Maccabees 4:52-53 It will be once again, the Day of re-dedication.

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    The Holocaust was BEFORE 1967 and BEFORE 1948.
    Therefore the end of the subjection is when there is no more stranglehold on Isarel and the Jews, and IMO on Jerusalem.
    So EITHER we look at the END which is CONTEXTUALLY that of the Greek kingdoms - Alexander, Ptolemaic and Seleucid - OR we look at the modern time, which most would agree happened by 1967 if not 1948. Some were even counting the Jubilee from 1948 and then 70 years, and then the Jubilee from 1967 which was last year.
    Since we can't tell the future, I see the *end* of Israel's trouble only when the Messiah returns and I sincerely believe it is the appropriate interpretation of the text. The end will not be the end if we limit it to their past oppressions.

    RevMan does NOT have a logical or even plausible explanation for the 1290 and 1335 days. I read it and it doesn't work by miles.
    The best I know of is that the 1290 days starts BEFORE the 1260 days. Then the 1335 days somehow is 45 days AFTER Jesus returns. Yet this is nonsense even when you consider it. How can you be more blessed than when Jesus returns?
    It is the same issue as those who try to put the 7 vials AFTER Jesus returns.
    The way you presented it is not the way that RevMan explained it. But I must confess that I'm out of my depth on this one. I will contact RevMan privately to help out.

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Trivalee View Post
    The way you presented it is not the way that RevMan explained it. But I must confess that I'm out of my depth on this one. I will contact RevMan privately to help out.
    Does the fact of there being exactly 75 days between the Day of Atonement and the ordained Feast of Hanukkah, have no significance for anyone here?
    1260 + 75 = 1335

    Jesus Returns on day 1260, destroys the Anti-Christs army and chains him up. Revelation 19:17-21 & 20:1-2
    He then sends out His angels to gather all the people who kept faithful right until His Return. Matthew 24:30-31
    They celebrate the Marriage Feast over the next 30 days. [day 1290]
    Then the Temple is cleansed and re-dedicated on day 1335.

    Simple, logical and no need to try silly notions like putting the extra days first. A Tim McHyde teaching, that has no foundation.

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    Does the fact of there being exactly 75 days between the Day of Atonement and the ordained Feast of Hanukkah, have no significance for anyone here?
    1260 + 75 = 1335

    Jesus Returns on day 1260, destroys the Anti-Christs army and chains him up. Revelation 19:17-21 & 20:1-2
    He then sends out His angels to gather all the people who kept faithful right until His Return. Matthew 24:30-31
    They celebrate the Marriage Feast over the next 30 days. [day 1290]
    Then the Temple is cleansed and re-dedicated on day 1335.

    Simple, logical and no need to try silly notions like putting the extra days first. A Tim McHyde teaching, that has no foundation.
    Brother, I can't say anything for certain without relying on speculation. But for what it's worth...

    1. If you accept that Dan 12: 11-12 is end times as I do, then I don't believe that the Day of Atonement and Hanukkah is what the angel had in mind when he told Daniel " v-12 blessed is he that waits and comes to the 1335 days". My reason is that we have just been told in v-11 that the daily sacrifice has been taking away and the AoD set up. I figure this will be a difficult time for devout Jews who probably will resist the AC and consequently die for trying.

    2. RevMan posits that the "75 days" is the window for the faithful in Jerusalem at the time to escape to the desert. It is hardly a time to celebrate as the AC appropriates the temple to show himself off as God.

    3. The 1260 days is actually the number of days the faithful will remain in their protective enclave in the desert (Rev 12:6 & 14) And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

    4. The way I see it, the lesser numbers 1260 and 1335 has to be deducted from the greater 1290 days. But as I said, I don't have all the answers, so you may yet to be right...

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    The timing is from the 1260 days; when Jesus will Return. There is exactly 75 days from the Day of Atonement until the Feast of Hanukkah - the 1335 day period from the Return to the rededication of the Temple. Please stop your attempts to discredit me.

    Hanukkah is an additional Feast, celebrated since 164 BC on the 25 day of Kislev, 1 Maccabees 4:52-53 It will be once again, the Day of re-dedication.
    Sorry but Hanukkah is NOT one off the 3 Fall Feasts.
    I recognise it as an event of importance, but God did NOT state it as something to be kept. Neither is Purim, which was also instigated by Man.
    Nothing wrong with them but they are NOT part of God's redemptive plan in terms of Him fulfilling them in the future.
    The 3 Fall Feasts are that of Trumpets, Atonement and Booths.

    So you have Jesus return and then take 75 days for a rededication? Wow! So you are more blessed after those 75 days than on the Day Jesus returns.
    Also note Dan 11 and 12 make NO reference to 1260 days.
    It also does NOT take Jesus 75 days to rapture the church.

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    The timing is from the 1260 days; when Jesus will Return. There is exactly 75 days from the Day of Atonement until the Feast of Hanukkah - the 1335 day period from the Return to the rededication of the Temple. Please stop your attempts to discredit me.
    Who told you that the Day of Atonement and Hanukkah are related to the 1335 days?

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Trivalee View Post
    Who told you that the Day of Atonement and Hanukkah are related to the 1335 days?
    I can do maths!
    Refer to my post #19, the fact is; 1335 days is 75 days more than 1260 days and exactly the same number of days between Atonement and Hanukkah.

    Jesus will fulfil the Fall Feasts, but Hanukkah too, will have a final fulfillment in the Millennium.

    FHG; The Church of faithful believers will be gathered by the angels to where He is. Matthew 24:30-31
    As Jesus has left heaven - destination earth, the place where His people will be with Him, is Jerusalem, the holy Land

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    FHG; The Church of faithful believers will be gathered by the angels to where He is. Matthew 24:30-31
    As Jesus has left heaven - destination earth, the place where His people will be with Him, is Jerusalem, the holy Land
    Not sure what you are attempting to address to me?
    I clearly showed that Hanukkah is NOT a Festival as mandated by God, but one made by Man.
    I also questioned why it takes 75 days for the rapture to be completed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    Not sure what you are attempting to address to me?
    I clearly showed that Hanukkah is NOT a Festival as mandated by God, but one made by Man.
    I also questioned why it takes 75 days for the rapture to be completed.
    Yes, as we see in 1 Maccabees 4:59, that they decreed Kislev 25 to be annually celebrated. It was, and continues to be celebrated today.

    Bible prophecy informs us that there will be a new Temple and again it will be desecrated. 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Revelation 11:1-2
    The feast of Hanukkah will have a final fulfilment 75 days after Jesus Returns.

    The 'rapture', as described in 1 Thess 4:17, will happen at the Return, confirmed by Matthew 24:30-31. It will be a gathering of those faithful Christians who remain alive then. To where He is; on earth for His Millennium reign.

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    Yes, as we see in 1 Maccabees 4:59, that they decreed Kislev 25 to be annually celebrated. It was, and continues to be celebrated today.
    Yes, so NOT a festival command by God.

    Bible prophecy informs us that there will be a new Temple and again it will be desecrated. 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Revelation 11:1-2
    The feast of Hanukkah will have a final fulfilment 75 days after Jesus Returns.
    Hanukkah will be irrelevant AFTER Jesus returns.

    The 'rapture', as described in 1 Thess 4:17, will happen at the Return, confirmed by Matthew 24:30-31. It will be a gathering of those faithful Christians who remain alive then. To where He is; on earth for His Millennium reign.
    Yes, and?

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    Yes, so NOT a festival command by God.


    Hanukkah will be irrelevant AFTER Jesus returns.


    Yes, and?
    When Jesus Returns, it will be to a Temple that the Anti-Christ sat in and declared himself to be god. Jesus will destroy the Ac's army and chain him up, Revelation 19:19-21
    The Temple will need to be cleansed and re-dedicated, so why do you think Hanukkah is irrelevant?

    Re a 'rapture'. You say in #21, that it won't take 75 days to rapture the Church. A comment designed to confuse the issue.
    All those faithful Christians who remain, as per 1 Thess 4:17, will be gathered to Jesus at His Return. Matthew 24:30-31 proves this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keraz View Post
    When Jesus Returns, it will be to a Temple that the Anti-Christ sat in and declared himself to be god. Jesus will destroy the Ac's army and chain him up, Revelation 19:19-21
    The Temple will need to be cleansed and re-dedicated, so why do you think Hanukkah is irrelevant?
    The Temple will NOT be cleansed and rededicated, for when Jesus returns is when the NJ comes out of heaven to earth.
    There is NO temple made by Man in the NJ, but ONLY the throne room of God, of which the earthly temple was but a shadow.

    Re a 'rapture'. You say in #21, that it won't take 75 days to rapture the Church. A comment designed to confuse the issue.
    All those faithful Christians who remain, as per 1 Thess 4:17, will be gathered to Jesus at His Return. Matthew 24:30-31 proves this.
    No it doesn't confuse the issue. The Rapture happens very quickly. Notice that they are gathered to Jesus and meet Him in the clouds, so it is WITHIN the period of time of Him leaving heaven to come to the earth and BEFORE He gets to the earth.
    Therefore clearly NOT taking 75 days.

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    Re: Time periods of Daniel and Revelation

    Quote Originally Posted by ForHisglory View Post
    The Temple will NOT be cleansed and rededicated, for when Jesus returns is when the NJ comes out of heaven to earth.
    There is NO temple made by Man in the NJ, but ONLY the throne room of God, of which the earthly temple was but a shadow.


    No it doesn't confuse the issue. The Rapture happens very quickly. Notice that they are gathered to Jesus and meet Him in the clouds, so it is WITHIN the period of time of Him leaving heaven to come to the earth and BEFORE He gets to the earth.
    Therefore clearly NOT taking 75 days.
    I see a cleansed temple in Ezekiel, in a new age when a holy river flows out of Jerusalem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DurbanDude View Post
    I see a cleansed temple in Ezekiel, in a new age when a holy river flows out of Jerusalem.
    Not a cleansed temple, but a new temple. It is the Temple which is in the NJ - the throne room of God.

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