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    Re: AOC declares the end of the world is in 12 years

    "Oh WOW it's really weird" (her quote not mine)
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    Re: AOC declares the end of the world is in 12 years

    Quote Originally Posted by shepherdsword View Post
    I just think she need a diaper change, If people like this ever go mainstream then America will go broke. When you fact check this post teen aged 29 year old. you can see how stupid she really is. And yes... I said STUPID.
    CNN Interviewer: "How are you going to pay for all these expensive government programs?"

    AOC: "You just make up your mind, and you pay for it!"

    I'm willing to bet she's never even so much as balanced a checkbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    CNN Interviewer: "How are you going to pay for all these expensive government programs?"

    AOC: "You just make up your mind, and you pay for it!"
    Buckle up. This new generation likes socialism. I haven't figured out yet if they want something free, or if they want a lifestyle that they don't believe can be supported by hard work. What I mean by that is the ability to travel a good bit, or be self employed, and not have to worry about obligations such as health insurance, etc. The idea is that if your basic needs are taken care of, then you can live a fuller life. It's anathema to a lot of us, that government should provide such a thing. But many are pushing for it these days. Personally, I would rather be free from government than free from responsibility (or the costs of freedom that may come in other ways). Also, there's an attitude about what kind of work people are willing or unwilling to do.

    The democrats have leaned that way for a long time, but only since the previous president and those that have come after him has the party been willing to explore the possibility completely.

    Personally, I think moral decay and government provision often go together. IOW, there's a reason many are ready for socialism here. We see the moral decay occurring slowly over time, and then speeding up in the last 10 years... about the same pace as the march towards socialism.
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    Re: AOC declares the end of the world is in 12 years

    She was a bartender just before winning, go figure....

    https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/commen..._bartender_at/
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    While millennials in this country are cheering f how socialism is going to pay for their unearned greed, millennials in South America who actually experienced socialism are united in defeating socialism.

    I’m willing to support a one-for-one exchange

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepherdsword View Post
    I just think she need a diaper change, If people like this ever go mainstream then America will go broke. When you fact check this post teen aged 29 year old. you can see how stupid she really is. And yes... I said STUPID.
    Well don't take your hatred for AOC out on me, I still consider you a friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    Buckle up. This new generation likes socialism.
    This is not an American outlook. We were always the "lets get it done" type. We didn't envy the rich because we hoped to someday be rich ourselves. Now everyone has a grievance and it's not fair that my neighbor has more than me and why should I pay for it let someone rich do that. This will be the undoing of America.

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    It’s pathetic that just because someone has passion they are embraced.

    Stalin had passion.
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    Re: AOC declares the end of the world is in 12 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenris View Post
    This is not an American outlook. We were always the "lets get it done" type. We didn't envy the rich because we hoped to someday be rich ourselves. Now everyone has a grievance and it's not fair that my neighbor has more than me and why should I pay for it let someone rich do that. This will be the undoing of America.
    The country we grew up in is fading fast Fenris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    It’s pathetic that just because someone has passion they are embraced.

    Stalin had passion.
    You think it's only her passion? Her message is resonating with some and that is very troublesome. The values of the country are changing. Hard work is no longer admired as it once was. What Fenris posted above use to be true... I don't think it is anymore. I remember when successful businessmen such as Lee Iacocca were admired. Not so much anymore. BTW... I agree with your post above. Let's get some more folks over here that want to work and take advantage of what we are as a nation rather than taking advantage of our nations tax payer and government.
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    Re: AOC declares the end of the world is in 12 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Mark View Post
    You think it's only her passion? Her message is resonating with some and that is very troublesome.
    To inexperienced and ignorant millennials who hear “free stuff,” with her brand of passion, yes, it is very troublesome. You won’t find one person of that generation who actually grew up in socialism echo her message. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. We have an entire generation raised by moms and dads who were raised themselves under the parental guidance of Dr. Spock. With horrible effect. Add to that the destruction of the family and the institutionalization of rewarding bad behavior and demonizing/penalizing hard work, what should we expect? Everyone gets a participation award.

    And so we now have an entire political party descending to the root ungodliness calling good evil and evil good.

    And that’s our current condition.

    But at some point the entitlement culture will bear the consequences for their coveting, lust and greed. Free everything is unsustainable. Socialism and entitlement cultures have a 100% failure rate because eventually central command runs out of other people’s money to spend.

    The middle class in this country is sustaining all these things. But it comes at a cost. Free medical care is freely dished out even to non citizens while most middle class workers pay a second mortgage for insurance they can’t use because the deductibles are $7200.00/year for each person (out of pocket). Middle class can’t afford that so they defer any medical attention they need until it is too late. The bulk of people who sustain the “what’s the government gonna do for me” crowd are going to dwindle, get sick, or simply stop working and give up.

    The consequences will be unbearable - and they will fall like a lead hammer on the most vulnerable group of people - the very ones who’s sense of entitlement has caused them to depend on the government like piglets on a teat will lose their teat. And they will have no idea how to survive on their own.

    That will be a sad day. But eventually payment for irresponsibility does come due. And that bill collector has no heart, just a very dark soul.


    The values of the country are changing. Hard work is no longer admired as it once was. What Fenris posted above use to be true... I don't think it is anymore. I remember when successful businessmen such as Lee Iacocca were admired. Not so much anymore. BTW... I agree with your post above. Let's get some more folks over here that want to work and take advantage of what we are as a nation rather than taking advantage of our nations tax payer and government.[/QUOTE]
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    Anyway, if AOC gets her way, her prediction may come true for different reasons.
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    I'm sure that anyone that's paid attention to school curriculum's and outright indoctrination in the past ...oh I don't know how many years....aren't surprised in the least that younger voters love candidates like Bernie Sanders & AOC.

    And just look at the Dem party itself. Progressive is just another name for Socialist. They just aren't bold enough to fully embrace it...yet...for fear of turning away older, uninformed voters who they still need to win elections.

    And just look at the outright hatred and fear they have all have of Trump and those who voted him into office. If Trump is somehow able to fulfill more of his conservative campaign promises and then somehow wins reelection and succeeds even more people just might realize how badly the Dems ( and a whole lot of RINO's) have lied to them and mislead them.
    Because by then it's easily possible that even young people with useless English Lit degrees ( for example ) will be able to get good jobs paying a decent wage. And just maybe if enough of them are doing much better they'll be willing to throw their Che Guevara shirts in the trash and start wearing MAGA hats.

    But if they do somehow,someway manage to defeat Trump either politically or through impeachment or whatever it just might be the beginning of the end of America.
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    Re: AOC declares the end of the world is in 12 years

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    I'm sure that anyone that's paid attention to school curriculum's and outright indoctrination in the past ...oh I don't know how many years....aren't surprised in the least that younger voters love candidates like Bernie Sanders & AOC.
    I think on social issues this is definitely true, except for abortion which overall my generation is more pro-life than previous. Part of the reason socialist economic ideas are more popular could be because accumulating wealth is not as motivating to mill/Z's as boom/X-ers. So a system which has less profit potential for individuals, but greater benefit to society as a whole, is viewed as the better option to us (I'm being very general).

    Where the other side loses communication is in explaining how capitalism is better at solving community issues such as the environment, education, healthcare, etc. - especially when these things are being visibly neglected. Capitalism begs on the charity of individuals, but this philosophy seems to be failing with the opioid epidemic and life-ending college expenses. Typically the conservative response falls along the lines of "these aren't important issues", so voluntarily push us away to be naturally swept up by the likes of DemSoc.

    But when not dismissive, the conservative response is, "the market will solve it." This is a valid position even though poorly explained, I think. When con. politicians propose "tax cuts on the wealthy", this is misconstrued as pandering to greedy individuals over the wellbeing of the country. Instead the messaging should be something like, "better paying jobs allow for greater activism." As it is, younger generations are fine with living simpler than our parents did - as long as the air is clean, so to speak. Personal wealth would not be an effective motivator, even if it was believable.

    These are my thoughts anyway... I'm only giving it because I know at least you read them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    I'm sure that anyone that's paid attention to school curriculum's and outright indoctrination in the past ...oh I don't know how many years....aren't surprised in the least that younger voters love candidates like Bernie Sanders & AOC.
    This is a true story. My uncle (my dad’s parents abandoned him in Bremerhaven) sympathized with the communist party in Germany. He couldn’t join them after 1933 because it was banned and went underground. He was later conscripted to the equivalent of the merchant marines. They did a lot of shipping in the Mediterranean and with S. America. In 1941 he jumped ship and snaked his way across the border and wound up as an illegal alien in New Jersey. He went underground and joined the communist party and lived in a commune. He married a Jewish girl there who also was a communist. My family had no idea he was in America until 1997. My dad thought he had defected to East Germany after the war or was killed. I did some research and discovered he was caught in 1951 and was forced to serve in the Army for citizenship. They should have deported him...but oh well....

    After his release from service, he became a democrat. No surprise, right? He lived long enough to campaign for Obama - he actually said Obama was the closest candidate to a true communist than even the American communist party candidates.

    Anyway, I just wanted to give a little background to give some credibility to something he told my dad during his visit here in 1997. They were talking politics (my dad was republican), and the conversation came around to the term “progressives.” My dad was a bit confused about the term, but my uncle set him straight with this:

    “you need to understand that “communist” or “socialist” would never catch on in this country, so we decided to call ourselves “progressives.”

    It’s the same ideology under a more seductive label. As with communism, it gives a false narrative of entitlement. After all, the end justifies the means, even if it’s deceptive. The end is no less that slavery of the masses by the elite. And the tools are the people who are indoctrinated to beleive they are disenfranchised but will be embraced no matter what their condition is or their aberrations are. But they are just the means to a goal. Tools. Once the goal is set and the elites sit at the top of the mountain, the tools are no longer useful and are expendable. If people really think progressives like AOC care about them, they are fooling themselves.

    My uncle didn’t live to see the end of the Obama administration, but he would be so proud of the leftists that infest the democrat party these days. He hung out with college students pretty much all his life and he saw the days we are living in coming a long, long time ago.

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    And just look at the Dem party itself. Progressive is just another name for Socialist. They just aren't bold enough to fully embrace it...yet...for fear of turning away older, uninformed voters who they still need to win elections.
    Per my uncle, that isn’t just a colloquialism. The term “progressive” was hand picked to replace less popular terms of the same ideology.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    And just look at the outright hatred and fear they have all have of Trump and those who voted him into office. If Trump is somehow able to fulfill more of his conservative campaign promises and then somehow wins reelection and succeeds even more people just might realize how badly the Dems ( and a whole lot of RINO's) have lied to them and mislead them.
    Because by then it's easily possible that even young people with useless English Lit degrees ( for example ) will be able to get good jobs paying a decent wage. And just maybe if enough of them are doing much better they'll be willing to throw their Che Guevara shirts in the trash and start wearing MAGA hats.
    I see a lot of blindness in this country. It is astounding.
    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    But if they do somehow,someway manage to defeat Trump either politically or through impeachment or whatever it just might be the beginning of the end of America.
    Trump is an existential threat to them. The media had the republicans afraid of their own shadows before Trump. Just look at how Orwellian the media was with those high schoolers. Even after they were caught in their false narrative they doubled down and accused a high school kid of “facecrime.” Literally. I read an article in the WP about it, I thought I was reading an extract from 1984.

    It’s horrifying.
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