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    What God Thinks Of Abortion..

    It is good to see the genuine outrage over New Yorkís approval of late term abortions. But it was heartbreaking that we learned that several other states are on track to do the same. However, the push-back seems to be working. In Virginia, a bill in their state legislature was tabled in committee instead of proceeding to a vote.

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    This is real easy. No explainations or long videos are necessary. Just read Exodus 20:13
    Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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    And no need to get sucked into some KJVO site either.
    Those who seek God with all their heart will find Him and be given sight. Those who seek their own agenda will remain blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    And no need to get sucked into some KJVO site either.
    Kind of shows his real motives.
    This IGNORE button is by far one of the most useful tools I've used to keep my peace while navigating through some of the madness.

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    The US has had to kind of concede territory to the Pro Choice people. And so the Pro Life people are arguing against abortion in the 3rd trimester.

    The fact the Pro Choice people are doubling down on abortion *at any time* indicates that they have no scruples about ending a viable human life in the womb. The mother's body is the exclusive concern of these people.

    Can you imagine if I said that the only life that matters is mine, and then proceed to murder everybody? That is what the Pro Choice people are in effect doing. They are denying the right to life of every viable unborn baby, and perhaps even defective born babies!

    Obviously, abortion is not what God ever had in mind. I think it is wrong at all times, except perhaps in the case of rape. Even then, I'm not sure there is a biblical answer in the case of rape.

    It is only questionable to me because in OT times Israel was sometimes called upon to destroy *all the Canaanites,* ie all family members, including babies, who were part of a complete apostate culture. Aborting the child of a rape may fall into this category perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyk View Post
    It is only questionable to me because in OT times Israel was sometimes called upon to destroy *all the Canaanites,* ie all family members, including babies, who were part of a complete apostate culture. Aborting the child of a rape may fall into this category perhaps?
    Then what's the difference in killing toddler because of rape? Toddlers were killed in Canaan.
    여러분은 주님 안에서 항상 기뻐하십시오. 내가 다시 말합니다. 기뻐하십시오.
    모든 사람을 너그럽게 대하십시오. 주님께서 오실 날이 가까웠습니다. Philippians 4


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviyah View Post
    Then what's the difference in killing toddler because of rape? Toddlers were killed in Canaan.
    God ordered that Aviyah, for HIS purposes. God has ownership and soveighty over ALL life, therefore it is His right.

    We donít have that right. We are not God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keck553 View Post
    God ordered that Aviyah, for HIS purposes. God has ownership and soveighty over ALL life, therefore it is His right.

    We don’t have that right. We are not God.
    Right, that's why I don't think it can be used to justify abortion.
    여러분은 주님 안에서 항상 기뻐하십시오. 내가 다시 말합니다. 기뻐하십시오.
    모든 사람을 너그럽게 대하십시오. 주님께서 오실 날이 가까웠습니다. Philippians 4


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviyah View Post
    Right, that's why I don't think it can be used to justify abortion.
    Itís a difficult read for me (and I think most everyone). I think thatís because Ďdo not murderí is written on the hearts of humanity and the thought is repulsive to most. I canít and will not judge any woman who makes this choice; what I disdain and recoil from is the principalities of the darkness that supports the institutionalization of murder.

    Women have always been the victims of institutionalized abuse, and this is a big one. The Bible says depravity will harden the hearts and minds of people, and one of the gifts I most cherish in women are the force of their maternal instincts and the balance that they give to culture, families and nations. Men are incapable en mass of creating this necessary tension.

    I get angry when a man turns from his responsibilities, but when women turn from their nature it just makes me sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviyah View Post
    Then what's the difference in killing toddler because of rape? Toddlers were killed in Canaan.
    The difference is we don't have theocracies anymore, and so don't have the moral authority to decide, by the word of God, who should live and who should die, what culture is too far gone and what culture may change by acts of grace. But when someone is raped, she has been victimized, and being the victim she may have the right to decide. It is possible God may give her that moral authority--I can't say myself. Some things I just don't feel I know enough to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyk View Post
    The difference is we don't have theocracies anymore, and so don't have the moral authority to decide, by the word of God, who should live and who should die, what culture is too far gone and what culture may change by acts of grace. But when someone is raped, she has been victimized, and being the victim she may have the right to decide. It is possible God may give her that moral authority--I can't say myself. Some things I just don't feel I know enough to say.
    Well said. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyk View Post
    The difference is we don't have theocracies anymore, and so don't have the moral authority to decide, by the word of God, who should live and who should die, what culture is too far gone and what culture may change by acts of grace. But when someone is raped, she has been victimized, and being the victim she may have the right to decide. It is possible God may give her that moral authority--I can't say myself. Some things I just don't feel I know enough to say.
    IMO the circumstances where it's okay to end a life apply equally to children as adults. The mother doesn't stop being a victim of circumstance just because she's given birth. Whether the situation is trivial or not, you're still killing a baby for reasons that have nothing to do with him/her.
    여러분은 주님 안에서 항상 기뻐하십시오. 내가 다시 말합니다. 기뻐하십시오.
    모든 사람을 너그럽게 대하십시오. 주님께서 오실 날이 가까웠습니다. Philippians 4


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    Re: What God Thinks Of Abortion..

    Quote Originally Posted by Aviyah View Post
    IMO the circumstances where it's okay to end a life apply equally to children as adults. The mother doesn't stop being a victim of circumstance just because she's given birth. Whether the situation is trivial or not, you're still killing a baby for reasons that have nothing to do with him/her.
    Explain how it's ever ok to end a child's life ? Ever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pbminimum View Post
    Explain how it's ever ok to end a child's life ? Ever....
    When the decision is a matter of choosing one life over another, in which both cannot be saved and both die if no action is taken.
    여러분은 주님 안에서 항상 기뻐하십시오. 내가 다시 말합니다. 기뻐하십시오.
    모든 사람을 너그럽게 대하십시오. 주님께서 오실 날이 가까웠습니다. Philippians 4


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pbminimum View Post
    Explain how it's ever ok to end a child's life ? Ever....
    There are the occasional and rare few times that I, as a Christian, would be very sad, but understand the need to terminate a pregnancy.

    Here's just a few that I was made aware of in the past 30 years:
    • Twice, I've been made aware of the fact that an unborn baby had no head. Just a stump of the base of the brain. In one of those cases, the doctor was a Christian man who suffered emotionally as to how to tell the mother. One of his nurses was my friend and she told me. I never asked her how that turned out. I was too shocked and saddened.
    • An ectopic pregnancy [what we used to call back in the day a "tubal" pregnancy.] Yes a fetus can live and thrive outside the womb [I read of one baby born healthy attached outside the womb, not inside. But a tubal pregnancy will kill mother. A baby cannot develop inside the Fallopian tube without bursting the tube, obviously, and halting it's growth and development [dying] and causing the mother to bleed internally.


    I do not believe in terminating a pregnancy because of rape or incest.

    However, when I read of the case of the 9-year-old girl who was raped by her father and became pregnant in South America, my beliefs were shaken to the core . I still don't know what I would do in that case.

    Adult women who have become pregnancy via rape and/or incest should have lots of counseling, lots of love, and lots of medial care if they choose to have the baby.

    In those cases, the church and Christians should think of the mother just the same as they think of the baby.
    ".....it's your nickel"

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