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    Greetings from Utah

    I have been a bi-vocational pastor/evangelist here since 1982. Married 38 years, 4 children, 5 grand children... and 2 goats used for packing.

    The last 20 years I have been doing inductive research on primitive Hebrew, Hebrew puns and riddles, and accidentally... sensus plenior.

    I am nearly finished with my 40 years in the wilderness, so perhaps I will be useful soon.

    I currently teach students and mentor pastors in Utah and remotely. I am told when I teach I use a fire hose, so I am hoping this forum will help me communicate in smaller portions.

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    Hello and welcome to BibleForums!
    Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

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    Thanks. It looks like the forum is being spammed with porn ads. Is there anyone online who can deal with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goatherd View Post
    Thanks. It looks like the forum is being spammed with porn ads. Is there anyone online who can deal with it?
    Yes, I have notified the mods and they have been dealing with it. It's a real shame that someone would do that.
    Galatians 6:14 - But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

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    Glad you could join us at bibleforums !

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    Hello goatherd, welcome to BibleForums. I hope you'll enjoy your stay here. Sometimes a fire hose may be needed but surely, not always.

    John 15:17 "These things I command you, that ye love one another."

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    Re: Greetings from Utah

    Thank you for the greetings.

    I'm putting this note here so that I can refer to it from time to time in anticipated discussions. Like a global Static value, I may refer to it from anywhere. If we wish to discuss it, I suppose we should do it in a normal thread. When I refer to it, I may say something like "That's Greek".


    Many of the discussions demonstrate a fault of Greek thinking when applied to a Hebrew text. I include the NT in that statement knowing full well it was written in Greek, but it was written by men who thought in Hebrew.

    The fault is that we cannot accept apparent contradiction, whereas in Hebrew, contradictions are intentional, different views of the same thing. Examples:
    The triune nature pitted against the unity of God.
    Holiness and grace
    Free-will and determinism
    Long hair the righteousness of the Nazarite but said to be a shame
    works vs. grace
    He is:
    the Only Begotten Son, the Un-begotten Only Son, the First Son, and the Usurping Second Son
    the murderer (laid down his own life) and the one murdered.
    the leper but never had leprosy
    the thief who never stole
    forsaken but not forsaken
    unwilling to die but willing to die
    God yet man
    love incarnate who says we should hate our parents.
    broke the law without breaking the law
    the adulterer who never committed adultery (divorced Israel, but took her back as his bride)
    dead but never died
    the humble who ran riot in the temple

    Some of these we have uncomfortably gotten used to, or gotten so weary in debate that we have lost interest.
    The answer to these discussions comes when we ask "In what way is it both" rather than forcing it to be one or the other.

    Thank you for the greetings.

    I'm putting this note here so that I can refer to it from time to time in anticipated discussions. Like a global Static value, I may refer to it from anywhere. If we wish to discuss it, I suppose we should do it in a normal thread. When I refer to it, I may say something like "That's Greek".


    Many of the discussions demonstrate a fault of Greek thinking when applied to a Hebrew text. I include the NT in that statement knowing full well it was written in Greek, but it was written by men who thought in Hebrew.

    The fault is that we cannot accept apparent contradiction, whereas in Hebrew, contradictions are intentional, different views of the same thing. Examples:
    The triune nature pitted against the unity of God.
    Holiness and grace
    Free-will and determinism
    Long hair the righteousness of the Nazarite but said to be a shame
    works vs. grace
    He is:
    the Only Begotten Son, the Un-begotten Only Son, the First Son, and the Usurping Second Son
    the murderer (laid down his own life) and the one murdered.
    the leper but never had leprosy
    the thief who never stole
    forsaken but not forsaken
    unwilling to die but willing to die
    God yet man
    love incarnate who says we should hate our parents.
    broke the law without breaking the law
    the adulterer who never committed adultery (divorced Israel, but took her back as his bride)
    dead but never died
    the humble who ran riot in the temple

    Some of these we have uncomfortably gotten used to, or gotten so weary in debate that we have lost interest.
    The answer to these discussions comes when we ask "In what way is it both" rather than forcing it to be one or the other.

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