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    Microchips in passports

    I am originally from Russia but I came to the US in the 1994, and I got US passport -- with a microchip -- in 2008. I am a dual citizen, so I have Russian passport as well, and my Russian passport doesn't have a microchip. In Russia they give a choice: one can get what they call "biometric passport" (with the chip) for 10 years, or one might get "non-biometric passport" (without microchip) for 5 years. In America there is no choice: if one is to get a passport at all, it would have to be the one for 10 years, with the chip. I have heard that in America most people don't have passport unless they want to travel. But I guess for immigrants its different: when I got US citizenship, they sent me the passport automatically without having to ask.

    In any case, when I ask Americans whether microchip in my passport is the mark of the beast, most of them say "no its not the mark -- its a precursor but not the actual mark, since the actual mark should be in right hand or forehead". However, when I asked one Ukrainian woman she said "yes its a mark". I thought it was just her, but recently I been watching some Russian youtube videos about it, and they all say that microchipped passport is a mark. So I am wondering why is Russian and American view on the matter is different? I can think of few different reasons for it:

    1. In America most people already accepted the passport with the chip, so they are forced to rationalize that its not the mark in order to grasp at the straws so to speak

    2. On the contrary, Americans are the ones who DON"T have a passport since most of them don't travel. Thats why for them its not a real issue. But Russians, that are forced to have a passport, are a lot more concerned.

    3. One thing that Russian videos say is that, when they give you a passport, they put invisible mark without your knowledge or consent. Maybe they do that in Russia but they don't do it in America?

    4. In Russia they are simply more religious and take this stuff more seriously

    5. Some other explanation

    So what are your thoughts on this?

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    Re: Microchips in passports

    Quote Originally Posted by Subriemannian View Post
    I am originally from Russia but I came to the US in the 1994, and I got US passport -- with a microchip -- in 2008. I am a dual citizen, so I have Russian passport as well, and my Russian passport doesn't have a microchip. In Russia they give a choice: one can get what they call "biometric passport" (with the chip) for 10 years, or one might get "non-biometric passport" (without microchip) for 5 years. In America there is no choice: if one is to get a passport at all, it would have to be the one for 10 years, with the chip. I have heard that in America most people don't have passport unless they want to travel. But I guess for immigrants its different: when I got US citizenship, they sent me the passport automatically without having to ask.

    In any case, when I ask Americans whether microchip in my passport is the mark of the beast, most of them say "no its not the mark -- its a precursor but not the actual mark, since the actual mark should be in right hand or forehead". However, when I asked one Ukrainian woman she said "yes its a mark". I thought it was just her, but recently I been watching some Russian youtube videos about it, and they all say that microchipped passport is a mark. So I am wondering why is Russian and American view on the matter is different? I can think of few different reasons for it:

    1. In America most people already accepted the passport with the chip, so they are forced to rationalize that its not the mark in order to grasp at the straws so to speak

    2. On the contrary, Americans are the ones who DON"T have a passport since most of them don't travel. Thats why for them its not a real issue. But Russians, that are forced to have a passport, are a lot more concerned.

    3. One thing that Russian videos say is that, when they give you a passport, they put invisible mark without your knowledge or consent. Maybe they do that in Russia but they don't do it in America?

    4. In Russia they are simply more religious and take this stuff more seriously

    5. Some other explanation

    So what are your thoughts on this?
    I assume you want the answer out of the Bible? In that case, the Mark will be
    • on the hand or the forehead (Rev.13:16)
    • visible - a real marking. The language specialists all agree. The Greek word rendered "Mark" means; "a scratch or etching, i.e. stamp (as a badge of servitude), or sculptured figure (statue) :- graven, mark."

    Passports might be obsolete by then. Dogs and cats are getting microchips these days. Why not us? Or, maybe, with technology going so fast, maybe microchips will be obsolete.

    But of course, what we all need to do is, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man" (Luke 21:36). According to the context, the Son of Man will be waiting in the clouds (v.27).

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    Re: Microchips in passports

    You have microchips in all sorts of things, mobile phones for example - yet who is claiming these microchips are the mark.
    Note that you can already buy with your mobile, and I expect there will be ways to sell with them too.
    They also contain GPS so your location is known.

    The chip in the passport is more like an RFID tag, or a SIM chip.

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