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    Re: My coming is like Noah's day.

    Quote Originally Posted by marty fox View Post

    Mt Ch 24:40-41
    40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

    This is also one of the most misunderstood verses in scripture. This is not the rapture, this is judgment.
    It's both.


    Notice the word used in these two verses taken.
    More important to notice that the Greek word does not mean to be killed or judged. It means to be accepted and survive.

    Just like the words took them away in verse 39.
    Completely different Greek word that doesn't mean what "one taken" means. If you don't include study of the Greek words a "study" like this has no truth in it.

    It was better to be left like Noah than to of be taken away.
    Noah wasn't "left" he was TAKEN to safety and those LEFT outside the ark died. The Greek word for left means to be rejected and die not survive.

    taken
    3880

    3880 paralambano {par-al-am-ban'-o}

    from 3844 and 2983; TDNT - 4:11,495; v

    AV - take 30, receive 15, take unto 2, take up 2, take away 1; 50

    1) to take to, to take with one's self, to join to one's self
    1a) an associate, a companion
    1b) metaph.
    1b1) to accept or acknowledge one to be such as he professes to be
    1b2) not to reject, not to withhold obedience
    2) to receive something transmitted
    2a) an office to be discharged
    2b) to receive with the mind
    2b1) by oral transmission: of the authors from whom the
    tradition proceeds
    2b2) by the narrating to others, by instruction of teachers
    (used of disciples)

    "to take with one's self"
    "to join to one's self"
    "an associate"
    "a companion"
    "not to reject"



    left
    863

    863 aphiemi {af-ee'-ay-mee}

    from 575 and hiemi (to send, an intens. form of eimi, to go);
    TDNT - 1:509,88; v

    AV - leave 52, forgive 47, suffer 14, let 8, forsake 6, let alone 6,
    misc 13; 146

    1) to send away
    1a) to bid going away or depart
    1a1) of a husband divorcing his wife
    1b) to send forth, yield up, to expire
    1c) to let go, let alone, let be
    1c1) to disregard
    1c2) to leave, not to discuss now, (a topic)
    1c21) of teachers, writers and speakers
    1c3) to omit, neglect
    1d) to let go, give up a debt, forgive, to remit
    1e) to give up, keep no longer
    2) to permit, allow, not to hinder, to give up a thing to a person
    3) to leave, go way from one
    3a) in order to go to another place
    3b) to depart from any one
    3c) to depart from one and leave him to himself so that all
    mutual claims are abandoned
    3d) to desert wrongfully
    3e) to go away leaving something behind
    3f) to leave one by not taking him as a companion
    3g) to leave on dying, leave behind one
    3h) to leave so that what is left may remain, leave remaining
    3i) abandon, leave destitute

    "to send away"
    "of a husband divorcing his wife"
    "to expire"
    "to disregard"
    "neglect"
    "keep no longer"
    "to leave on dying"
    "leave behind one"
    "abandon, leave destitute"

    That's the complete opposite as being "taken" and is very negative. Do you
    want to be rejected at the return of Christ or do you want to be accepted?
    Christ takes the first one from the field and the rest is "left" by him, and
    are "kept no longer".
    James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

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    Cool Re: My coming is like Noah's day.

    Quote Originally Posted by ewq1938 View Post
    It's both.



    More important to notice that the Greek word does not mean to be killed or judged. It means to be accepted and survive.



    Completely different Greek word that doesn't mean what "one taken" means. If you don't include study of the Greek words a "study" like this has no truth in it.



    Noah wasn't "left" he was TAKEN to safety and those LEFT outside the ark died. The Greek word for left means to be rejected and die not survive.

    taken
    3880

    3880 paralambano {par-al-am-ban'-o}

    from 3844 and 2983; TDNT - 4:11,495; v

    AV - take 30, receive 15, take unto 2, take up 2, take away 1; 50

    1) to take to, to take with one's self, to join to one's self
    1a) an associate, a companion
    1b) metaph.
    1b1) to accept or acknowledge one to be such as he professes to be
    1b2) not to reject, not to withhold obedience
    2) to receive something transmitted
    2a) an office to be discharged
    2b) to receive with the mind
    2b1) by oral transmission: of the authors from whom the
    tradition proceeds
    2b2) by the narrating to others, by instruction of teachers
    (used of disciples)

    "to take with one's self"
    "to join to one's self"
    "an associate"
    "a companion"
    "not to reject"



    left
    863

    863 aphiemi {af-ee'-ay-mee}

    from 575 and hiemi (to send, an intens. form of eimi, to go);
    TDNT - 1:509,88; v

    AV - leave 52, forgive 47, suffer 14, let 8, forsake 6, let alone 6,
    misc 13; 146

    1) to send away
    1a) to bid going away or depart
    1a1) of a husband divorcing his wife
    1b) to send forth, yield up, to expire
    1c) to let go, let alone, let be
    1c1) to disregard
    1c2) to leave, not to discuss now, (a topic)
    1c21) of teachers, writers and speakers
    1c3) to omit, neglect
    1d) to let go, give up a debt, forgive, to remit
    1e) to give up, keep no longer
    2) to permit, allow, not to hinder, to give up a thing to a person
    3) to leave, go way from one
    3a) in order to go to another place
    3b) to depart from any one
    3c) to depart from one and leave him to himself so that all
    mutual claims are abandoned
    3d) to desert wrongfully
    3e) to go away leaving something behind
    3f) to leave one by not taking him as a companion
    3g) to leave on dying, leave behind one
    3h) to leave so that what is left may remain, leave remaining
    3i) abandon, leave destitute

    "to send away"
    "of a husband divorcing his wife"
    "to expire"
    "to disregard"
    "neglect"
    "keep no longer"
    "to leave on dying"
    "leave behind one"
    "abandon, leave destitute"

    That's the complete opposite as being "taken" and is very negative. Do you
    want to be rejected at the return of Christ or do you want to be accepted?
    Christ takes the first one from the field and the rest is "left" by him, and
    are "kept no longer".
    John 15:17 "These things I command you, that ye love one another."

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