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    The Doctrine of Soul Winning

    Correct me if I'm wrong
    but the only way a soul can be saved
    is it has to be redeemed?

    And even then you must be born into the kingdom of God by water and Spirit.

    But yet I hear people say they are winning souls for the kingdom.

    Are they deceived?

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    Re: The Doctrine of Soul Winning

    Quote Originally Posted by Loaousal View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong
    but the only way a soul can be saved
    is it has to be redeemed?

    And even then you must be born into the kingdom of God by water and Spirit.

    But yet I hear people say they are winning souls for the kingdom.

    Are they deceived?
    Absolutely not . Read Romans 10 vs. 14-15. Man doesn't technically win anything... that's simply a term for gathering God's harvest. We are called to be a witness and to spread the Gospel of Christ through out testimony, and through this testimony, some will be saved. Baptism doesn't save. Faith in Christ from hearing His word is what saves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pbminimum View Post
    Man doesn't technically win anything.
    But yet I hear people say they are winning souls for the kingdom.

    Are they deceived?

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    Re: The Doctrine of Soul Winning

    When people say "winning souls" it's usually just another way of saying:

    He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins ... (Colossians 1:13)

    So synonymous with like "rescuing souls." Although it's important to remember we aren't the ones actually doing the winning/rescuing - that would be God through Christ. Sometimes that can be forgotten when the phrase is used too casually.
    「耶和華聖潔無比,獨一無二,沒有磐石像我們的上帝。
    撒母耳記上 (1 Samuel) 2:2

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    Well said. And intriguing that souls can be successfully invited to Christ.

    "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise." Pro 11:30

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    Re: The Doctrine of Soul Winning

    Quote Originally Posted by Loaousal View Post
    But yet I hear people say they are winning souls for the kingdom.

    Are they deceived?
    No. Proverbs 11 / 30 tells us "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and the one who is wise saves souls'

    It's a biblical term for preaching to the lost and seeing souls converted. It's not something to be overly concerned with ( the wordage). One should be more concerned about actually winning the souls of the lost than the terminology. Would you not agree ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviyah View Post
    Although it's important to remember we aren't the ones actually doing the winning/rescuing - that would be God through Christ.
    But yet I hear people say they are winning souls for the kingdom.

    Are they deceived?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMINXTC View Post
    Well said. And intriguing that souls can be successfully invited to Christ.

    "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise." Pro 11:30
    This you have quoted to me was written long before Jesus came to Earth in the flesh. Jesus is the Redeemer and every soul that is saved must be redeemed. Therefore how did anyone win souls to the kingdom without a Redeemer?

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    They were won to the full counsel of God and thus to the coming Christ.

    "Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David." Isaiah 55:3

    Salvation was preached in the Old Testament, and Christ's coming and saving mission was foretold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pbminimum View Post
    No. Proverbs 11 / 30 tells us "The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and the one who is wise saves souls'

    It's a biblical term for preaching to the lost and seeing souls converted. It's not something to be overly concerned with ( the wordage). One should be more concerned about actually winning the souls of the lost than the terminology. Would you not agree ?
    No I do not agree.

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    Re: The Doctrine of Soul Winning

    "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:," Job 19:25

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMINXTC View Post
    They were won to the full counsel of God and thus to the coming Christ.

    "Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David." Isaiah 55:3

    Salvation was preached in the Old Testament, and Christ's coming and saving mission was foretold.
    King Solomon was the author of proverbs the verse that you quoted to me concerning winning souls my question to you concerning that to which you believe is the truth was King Solomon was his soul won to the full counsel of God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMINXTC View Post
    "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:," Job 19:25
    so tell me who won Job's soul to the kingdom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loaousal View Post
    King Solomon was the author of proverbs the verse that you quoted to me concerning winning souls my question to you concerning that to which you believe is the truth was King Solomon was his soul won to the full counsel of God?
    Not many would doubt that, certainly

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    Re: The Doctrine of Soul Winning

    Quote Originally Posted by Loaousal View Post
    so tell me who won Job's soul to the kingdom?
    Why don't you cut to the chase and enlighten us on the position you are wanting to advance ?

    That evangelism is null and void under the new covenant ?
    That it isn't the responsibility of the church to advance the Gospel to all nations ?
    That man doesn't have the ability to be a witness ?

    Which is it ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Loaousal View Post
    No I do not agree.
    Expound.

    Not in riddles or half comments.

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